SEB Mailbag: Scientific Law comes from the Creator edition.

Got the following earlier today:

From: Buck Yancey buckyancey@comcast.net

Subject: The peanut butter argument
Let’s see: you believe that there was nothing, and then it exploded.  [Wow!]

He believes that, if you guys are right then there should and could be new life forms popping up everywhere, even from a glob of peanut butter.  Do you not understand that he has really pulled your chain, but you are so up tight that you didn’t even catch the sarcasm?

Buck

I responded with the following:

Buck,

You don’t start off well when you begin with making assumptions about what I believe. That just makes you look arrogant. It also makes you look ignorant because it’s clear you don’t understand the theory you’re attacking.

Einstein showed us that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore to say that “nothing exploded” is, quite simply, wrong. The theory doesn’t even come close to claiming that’s what happened.

Sarcastic or not, the peanut butter argument is based on a strawman that has no basis on what the actual theory says. Not to mention that abiogenesis and The Big Bang Theory are two entirely different and unrelated theories.

Go off an read up a bit on the actual theories from actual scientists and not creationists before you open your mouth and stick your foot in it again. You’ll find there’s no unpleasant aftertaste that way.

Les

As per usual, Buck felt he already knew the theory well enough to not require studying up and opted to reply right away. I’ll post it below the fold.

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Pterosaurs live!

Pterosaurs are alive again! Actually they aren’t but don’t tell that to the folk over at ObjectiveMinistries.org
If you can get past the ironic double speak name check this out.
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/projectpterosaur.html

For the lazy, they wish to obtain funding to travel the globe and find a living pterosaur so they can

  1. Support Creation Theory by showing the incorrectness of the philosophy of Evolutionism.
  2. Educate the population about Creation Science.
  3. Create excitement about Creation and the Bible in the public.

If you didn’t figure it out with the agenda, this is the YEC crowd. They say they would like to roll back the propaganda of evolutionists that trick the public into belieaving that the earth is millions of years old. In their reasoning, if they can find a live pterosaur then that proves that the earth is young, thus creation is real, thus God exists. Go figure.

They are currently in Phase I of a III phase plan. Plans with creepy names like, “Cultural Confrontation and Renewal.” They even have 75% of the necessary funding. I’m curious to follow what happens with this.

SEB Mailbag: You don’t understand the brilliance of Dr. Chuck Missler edition.

I get email. Inane stuff like this:

From:
Subject: The Jar

Dear Les

Dr. Chuck Missler is well known for his profound studies in many respectable ways. I understand things get a little bit shaky for an atheist when following Dr. Misslers work in depht.

Please hold on you will get there…

Many blessings

Cyrill

PS: Is it on purpose that your picture shows first when visiting stupid evil bastard dot com?

I sent back the following reply:

Cyrill,

Dr. Chuck Missler is well known for being a joke on the topic of evolutionary theory. His example of a jar of peanut butter is laughable for its stupidity. Anyone who has spent any amount of time studying evolution will instantly recognize just how stupid an argument it is, no PHD necessary.

And, yes, it’s on purpose that my picture shows first as I’m the owner of the site. I see that in addition to evolution the concept of irony is also lost on you.

Les

Think this’ll shut the Creationists up? No? Me neither.

Creationists are always arguing that if Evolution is true then we should see cats giving birth to frogs or “transitional” forms such as the legendary Croc-o-duck. The fact that such things would actually disprove the theory only illustrates how they haven’t a clue what the theory actually says, but that doesn’t stop them from demanding to see such creatures.

So perhaps the news of an apparent Monk-o-Piglet recently born in China will get them to shut up:

“It’s hideous. No one will be willing to buy it, and it scares the family to even look at it!” Feng told Oriental Today.

He says the piglet looks just like a monkey, with two thin lips, a small nose and two big eyes. Its rear legs are also much longer than its forelegs, causing it to jump instead of walk.

Feng’s wife said the monkey-faced piglet was one of five newborns of a sow which the family had raised for nine years.

“My God, it was so scary. I didn’t known what it was. I was really frightened,” she said.

“But our son likes to play with it, and he stopped us from getting rid of it. He even feeds it milk.”

So what does this thing look like? It’s kinda cute in a horror movie way:

Somehow I doubt this’ll get the Creationists to stop yapping about how there’s no transitional forms though it should. It’s exactly the sort of thing they’ve been clamoring for.

Enough is Enough: A Thinking Ape’s Critique of Trans-Simianism

Enough is Enough: A Thinking Ape’s Critique of Trans-Simianism

Aaron Diaz
Dresden Codak

Posted: Dec 16, 2007

The following was taken from a cave wall painting in southern Tunisia more than 300,000 years ago. Fossil evidence suggests that the author was of the species Homo erectus.

To further expound upon the topic of last week’s installment, I will address the more specific claims of Dr. Klomp and his radical theory that has been gaining wider acceptance throughout the community. Once again I would like to thank our readers for sending in your fish bones and boar hides in support of this journalist’s campaign to expose Dr. Klomp’s trans-simianist prattle for what it is: a collection of wishful thoughts out of keeping with any factual evidence.

The term ‘trans-simian’ comes from the shortening of ‘transitional simian,’ a concept Dr. Klomp has developed to describe an individual who is in an evolutionary transition from simian to post-simian, though Klomp himself admits that he is not entirely clear what a true post-simian would be.  Characteristics exhibited by a trans-simian include augmentation of one’s natural abilities with ‘tools,’ as well as one’s mental capacities with what has been dubbed ‘culture.’

Klomp’s primary argument rests on what he calls the ‘Quickening,’ an imagined point somewhere in the future when the advancement of ‘culture’ occurs so rapidly that its pace will far exceed that of biological evolution.  In his own words,

  “There will come a time when within a single generation we will develop one or possibly even two new ideas… Current advancements in the ‘bow’ and ‘arrow’ industries suggest an exponential trend in the expansion of our technological capacities.  We are able to perform hunts in a fraction of the time it took our ancestors, thus freeing up valuable time to ‘ think ‘ of new ideas. In the post-simian world, we may develop into a species that is not only intellectually superior to our current state, but capable of feats beyond the comprehension of a contemporary simian.”

The rest of the piece can be found here.  It’s a pretty funny take on some of the arguments that I guess are bandied about by not only opponents of the Transhumanist philosophy, but also of some anti-evolution arguments that Creationists like to toss around.  Also, I’d recommend the author’s webcomic Dresden Codak; it’s pretty weird, but consistently excellent, and he’s a hell of an artist.

Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort to “scientifically” prove God’s existence.

This should be funny and not just because Kirk Cameron used to co-star in a sitcom. He and creationist Ray Comfort have challenged the guys who set up The Blasphemy Challenge to a debate and ABC has agreed to host it. You may remember Kirk and Ray from the wildly funny video in which they claim that the banana is an “atheist’s nightmare” because God made it so it would fit in our hands perfectly thus proving God exists or something.

Here’s the real kicker of this bit of news: Comfort is claiming he will scientifically prove the existence of God:

“Most people equate atheism with intellectualism,” Comfort added, “but it’s actually an intellectual embarrassment. I am amazed at how many people think that God’s existence is a matter of faith. It’s not, and I will prove it at the debate – once and for all. This is not a joke. I will present undeniable scientific proof that God exists.

I wonder what odds the bookmakers are giving for Comfort trying to whip out his banana argument. If he does it’ll just be that much funnier. As for Cameron, well, here’s what he’s going to add to this circus…

Cameron (“Growing Pains” sitcom and Left Behind movies) will speak on what he believes is a major catalyst for atheism: Darwinian evolution. The popular actor stated, “Evolution is unscientific. In reality, it is a blind faith that’s preached with religious zeal as the gospel truth. I’m embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory. The issue of intelligent design is extremely relevant at the moment. Atheism has become very popular in universities—where it’s taught that we evolved from animals and that there are no moral absolutes. So we shouldn’t be surprised when there are school shootings. Cameron will also reveal what it was that convinced him that God did exist.

Oooo! I can hardly wait to hear what stunning revelation convinced Kirk to become a True Believer™!

Mark your calendars for May 5th as that’s when the hilarity will begin.