On picking the right battles.

jesusr-no-runningSo there’s been a couple of news items recently about restaurants causing an uproar by offering discounts to customers displaying their religiosity. In one case Mary’s Gourmet Diner in Winston-Salem, NC was offering a 15% discount to customers they saw praying before eating their meals.

The owner claimed it was more about public displays of gratitude than religion, but the receipts did list it as a ‘praying in public’ discount, which makes that claim seem a bit dubious. That said, it was never officially advertised and was handed out entirely at the discretion of the service staff for years before a pleasantly surprised customer posted a photo of their receipt with the discount to Facebook and it went viral. It wasn’t long after that the the owner was contacted by the Freedom From Religion Foundation — a group I support — with a letter informing them that the practice was a violation of the Civil Rights Act. The owner ended up deciding to discontinue the discount despite a lot of offers of free legal representation and visitors to the diner are now greeted with the following note:

“While you may exercise your right of religious freedom at this restaurant by praying over your meal to any entity or non-entity, we mush protect your freedom from religion in a public place. We are no longer issuing the 15% praying in public discount. It is illegal and we are being threatened by a lawsuit.”

Freedom From Religion Foundation co-president Annie Laurie Gaylor told News & Record that the group didn’t threaten a lawsuit, but a lawsuit “would not have been off the table.”

She added that it’s illegal to “charge an atheist more than a Christian.”

Now the FFRF has contacted Bailey’s Pizza in Arkansas for offering a 10% discount to people who bring in church bulletins:

Sent earlier this month, the letter alleges that Bailey’s owner, Steven Rose, is discriminating against patrons who have not attended church.

“The law requires places of public accommodation to offer their services to customers without regard to race, color, religion or national origin,” wrote FFRF representative Elizabeth Cavell.

Bailey’s, which opened last month, also allows patrons to write Bible verses on one of the restaurant’s walls.

In an interview with local media, Rose denies that the discount violates the Civil Rights Act, telling CBS affiliate THV11 that the discount “has nothing to do with excluding anybody.”

“It’s not specific to any church. It’s another way to bring people in and make them feel welcome,” said Rose.

“I offer discounts to others too — like college students, teachers, military, police and senior citizens.”

Now, technically, the FFRF is correct in that both of these policies violate the Civil Rights Act which includes religion as one of the criteria that public businesses cannot discriminate on and offering discounts for public displays of religiosity or church bulletins is a form of discrimination. Steven Rose disagrees and is vowing to fight the FFRF if they sue saying that if atheists really want the discount they can just download a church bulletin off of a website and bring it in and no one would question them on it. Which, yeah, you could do if you don’t mind dishonestly misrepresenting yourself to knock a few bucks off your pizza. I don’t think atheists should be forced into essentially lying to a business just to net a discount.

So, yes, I think the FFRF is right that this is a violation of the law, but I’m not sure it’s worth the effort to pick a fight over it. I don’t really care if religious folks get slightly cheaper food from a particular restaurant. If anything, it just makes me want to avoid that restaurant.  If they don’t mind alienating part of their potential clientele then so be it. Atheists in general, and the FFRF in particular, already take a lot of shit for fighting battles over displays of the Decalog and crosses on government property and I think those are worthy fights to be had. I’m not sure the extra ill-will we get from forcing a restaurant to cease offering preferential treatment to religious people is worth it.

That said, I would be sure to make it known to the owner of any restaurants that I did visit that had such a policy that I find it disappointing and wouldn’t recommend folks eat there as a result. Maybe that would make them rethink it and maybe it wouldn’t, but there’s plenty of places to eat that don’t discriminate to choose from. If their goal was to make people feel welcome and I don’t feel welcome, well, they failed in their goal.

One of the neat things about having had a blog for 13 years is that you can figuratively go back in time and see the person you once were simply by browsing through the archives. I was 34 when I first started blogging and back then I probably would’ve been right there with the FFRF decrying this as something that should not be! It’s an injustice against my people and will not stand!

fuckloadingfailI don’t know if it’s because I’m getting older and just don’t have the energy I did 13 years ago, but these days my reaction to hearing about eateries like these was “meh.” It seems like you hear about this sort of thing every week now and it seems like a huge waste of resources trying to fight each one.

There’s also the fact that religious belief in America has been on a downward trend for some time now so it’s a problem that’s likely to take care of itself by the end of the century:

Every piece of social data suggests that those who favor faith and superstition over fact-based evidence will become the minority in this country by or before the end of this century. In fact, the number of Americans who do not believe in a deity doubled in the last decade of the previous century according to both the census of 2004 and the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) of 2008, with religious non-belief in the U.S. rising from 8.2 percent in 1990 to 14.2 percent in 2001. In 2013, that number is now above 16 percent.

If current trends continue, the crossing point, whereby atheists, agnostics, and “nones” equals the number of Christians in this country, will be in the year 2062. If that gives you reason to celebrate, consider this: by the year 2130, the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Christian will equal a little more than 1 percent. To put that into perspective, today roughly 1 percent of the population is Muslim.

The fastest growing religious faith in the United States is the group collectively labeled “Nones,” who spurn organized religion in favor of non-defined skepticism about faith. About two-thirds of Nones say they are former believers. This is hugely significant. The trend is very much that Americans raised in Christian households are shunning the religion of their parents for any number of reasons: the advancement of human understanding; greater access to information; the scandals of the Catholic Church; and the over-zealousness of the Christian Right.

So let them have their little discounts if they want them and save those resources for the bigger fights. Consider it a consolation prize as they’re headed out the door. Hell, if anything, this sort of thing does more harm to their cause than good. This sort of subtle discrimination only contributes to their downfall because it reveals them for the bigots they are.

7 thoughts on “On picking the right battles.

  1. My only comment is that I have some sympathy for the “bring in your church bulletins for a discount” situation.

    There is a long-standing effort to build synergies between entertainment and dining. The bars and restaurants around stadiums often have a “show your ticket for a discount” promotion. There are many “show your movie ticket to get a discount” promotions.

    So if I ran a family style restaurant, I could easily see myself giving a “come here after church” discount…not to promote religion, but to promote business, maybe get some regulars, and ideally create an atmosphere that people think to go to my place, instead of somebody else’s, or instead of going home.

    And if you, my customer, had chosen to sleep in, do house repairs or play games, and still stumbled into my place around noon, waved, and said “I’m here for your Sunday morning discount.” I’d wave you to a good table and bring you coffee–because you are doing exactly what I hoped…which is to spend your money with me.

  2. I agree – these complaints look petty. There are more important battles- if your leaders won’t do anything about world threatening issues, picking little fights make you look not worth taking you serious.

  3. All religion is about mind-control. You MUST behave the way that the religious leaders tell you to behave or you will be doomed for eternity. What bullshit. Anyone that can think for themselves and has something of a conscience will be a good person without any religious influence. The fable that a “god” created man is just that – a fable. Man created “god”. The tribal leaders found it to be a simple and easy way to control the ignorant. And the practice continues today. It just goes to show how many ignorant people can still be duped by the shamans of religion.

  4. I honestly don’t care. If I find a restaurant offering those kinds of discounts, I take my business somewhere else and I make sure that I let the restaurant know why they will never receive any more of my money. Of course, I don’t tend to go to the small family-owned restaurants anyhow, the regional or national chains are never going to do anything like that and if they do, you have someone up the line to complain to if you wish.

    But sure, if you want to celebrate religion, knock yourself out. I suspect you’ll get a lot of people just finding somewhere else to eat.

  5. Roll on 2062 , two thousand and sixty two years of bigotry , hypocrisy and closed minds are more than the human race deserve . I hope the same applies to all religions.

  6. I’m tempted to go even further and say that a lot of the “equality” disputes currently cropping up involving small private businesses are bullshit. It’s not the reconstruction era anymore.

    I don’t care at all about after-church discounts in small businesses. I also don’t care if an independent christian baker or florist doesn’t want to make a cake or bouquet for a gay (or atheist!) wedding, or if people of various religions/ethnicities/genders want to have their own private clubs, gyms, kosher-only caterers, whatever. As long as it is in the realm of private clubs or individual privately owned businesses, I think it should still be covered by the constitutional concept of freedom of association.

    If it’s the government, or interstate businesses, or even a large publicly-traded corporation/chain store acting in a bigoted manner toward people, I can see how there could be real consequences, and thus real civil rights issues, for the disfavored customer. But in this day and age, I can’t see why small businesses owned by individuals can’t have a bit more latitude, at least from the perspective of caring about real harm vs symbolic posturing.

    Nobody’s going to stave to death or be more than mildly inconvenienced even if a restaurant openly said “We serve white straight christians only”…(well, the owner might starve to death if he tries it in some places!)

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