Republicans act like a bunch of fucking crybabies.

For all the bitching Democrats did whenever President Bush and the Republicans forced something through Congress during the eight years he was in office, I don’t recall them ever resorting to intentionally grinding the government to a halt when they didn’t get their way:

There is a little-known rule in the Senate stating that hearings can’t happen after 2:00 p.m. each day without unanimous consent. However, every day, at the start of business, the Senate generally agrees, by unanimous consent, to waive this rule and continue with the necessary business of holding hearings. Here is the rule:

5. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the rules, when the Senate is in session, no committee of the Senate or any subcommittee thereof may meet, without special leave, after the conclusion of the first two hours after the meeting of the Senate commenced and in no case after two o’clock postmeridian unless consent therefor has been obtained from the majority leader and the minority leader (or in the event of the absence of either of such leaders, from his designee). The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall not apply to the Committee on Appropriations or the Committee on the Budget. The majority leader or his designee shall announce to the Senate whenever consent has been given under this subparagraph and shall state the time and place of such meeting. The right to make such announcement of consent shall have the same priority as the filing of a cloture motion.

Republicans, however, are now refusing to give unanimous consent and are blocking the hearings. Today, during a Senate Homeland Security Subcommittee hearing on transparency, Sen. Tom Carper (D-DE) announced that he had to stop the proceedings because of Republican blocks.

What the fuck; are you people six-years-old?

Wasn’t it a Republican Senator who once asked rhetorically:  “Is there something wrong with ‘majority rules’? I don’t think so.” Hint: It was Republican Senator Judd Gregg.

Now they’re out of power and have decided that they will not concede a single victory of any kind to Obama and when the majority gets it done anyway, they pitch a fucking fit. If you didn’t know any better it’d almost seem as though they’ve forgotten all the shit they pulled with Reconciliation and Recess Appointments during the Bush Administration. You know they haven’t forgotten because back in February Republican Senator Orrin Hatch specifically warned Obama that he shouldn’t make a recess appointment:

Republicans have slowed the confirmation process for dozens of President Obama’s nominees, raising the prospect that the president will install some through so-called recess appointments when the Senate adjourns for a holiday break at the end of the week. Republicans immediately called on Mr. Obama not to place Mr. Becker on the board in that fashion.

“I sincerely hope the White House does not circumvent the will of the Senate by appointing him when the Senate is out of session,” Senator Orrin Hatch, Republican of Utah, said.

Why that would be unheard of, right? Except Bush did just that some seven fucking times during his time in office. It’s galling as hell that these hypocritical assholes are getting all upset when the very same processes they used during their time in power are being used again now. Grow the fuck up and stop acting like spoiled children you insufferable pricks.

And while I’m at it, it would be nice if the douchbags in the Tea Party Movement would try to overcome being the inbred redneck FOX-news-watching hicks they apparently are and stop vandalizing Democratic offices around the country and threatening people:

No one was inside when the brick was hurled through the Democratic Patry Headquarters on University Avenue. Attached was a note quoting conservative Barry Goldwater: “Exremism [sic] in defense of liberty is no vice”. […]

[Rep. Louise] Slaughter has been at the center of the push for reform. Last Thursday she received a chilling recorded message at her campaign office. “Assassinate is the word they used…toward the children of lawmakers who voted yes.”

It says something that the Republicans seem to be the ones threatening bloody violence every time a law they don’t like gets passed. When was the last time you heard a liberal politician talk about his state seceding from the union when he wasn’t happy with a law? You can find several Republican politicians making such statements easily.

I bitch about the Democrats being a bunch of pussies, but at least they’re not the raving assholes the Republicans apparently are when they don’t get their way. All that mighty talk about “majority rules” sure does fly out the window awfully fucking quick when they’re the minority party.

24 thoughts on “Republicans act like a bunch of fucking crybabies.

  1. The whole point of recess appointments is to clear a backlog from an obstructionist Senate. If the Republicans don’t want recess appointments used then instead of drawing the confirmations out, they should get through them faster, find out the candidates are not acceptable, and get them rejected. But wait – they can’t do that because Obama, unlike GW, is putting forth candidates who actually are good candidates.

    Bush used recess appointments to put up 3rd and 4th choices, not just delayed choices – completely different scenarios.

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  3. A-fricken-men to that brother.

    Seriously though, the Re-thug-licans go right, so the Dems go right, just to keep up. The Dems haven’t realized that when your opposition goes right, you should go left, or at least stand your ground.

    The Obama administration needs to out these motherfuckers and simply say to the American people, “we can’t pass banking reform because of these motherfuckers, and when the next crash hits, and the repo-men come for your car, house and TV, yeah, it was the Republicans who stalled the process and allowed it to happen”. Seriously, Obama really need to slap these people around. Being civil and treating them as if they have a reasonable point is only a Good Idea when they DO actually have a reasonable point. When they are being unreasonable pricks the only thing to do – the thing in the public interest – is to say loud and clear “you’re being pricks”.

  4. Now I see that a number of state Attorneys General (14 at last count) are filing litigation to seek injunctive relief against the bill, based on constitutional considerations. http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/23/health.care.lawsuit/index.html?iref=allsearch The AGs claim that the health care bill steps beyond the federal government’s authority under the Commerce Clause, as it places undue burden on states. However, a number of constitutional scholars have pointed out many other examples of federal legislation (e.g., Medicare) have withstood similar scrutiny, and that this health care bill was a proper act by Congress under Article I. Some state legislatures are proposing bills that aim to shield those states from the federal requirements, but I doubt those will hold up, due to federal supremacy of the health care bill.

    It’s all smoke and mirrors.

  5. What I find interesting about the lawsuits is that the taxes are probably separate from the constitutional challenge. These guys are going to stall the implementation of any benefits from the legislation for their states while they determine constitutionality, but they’re still going to pay for those benefits. And hey, that makes the cost-expense analysis for all the states who aren’t a bunch of bitches look better.

  6. Ah yes, from the same people who brought you Social Security, USPS, Medicare, Freddie Mac and the Iraq War are now going to run our health care!?!? I guess I must be a moron if I don’t think this is a good idea.
    Being single and without kids I will be more than happy to have the government take more money from me so I can pay your bills. If you don’t think I’ll be paying your bills, how the hell do you think this government is going to pay for it. Raise taxes or borrow more from China? I guess it is my libertarian leanings but shouldn’t I be able to control more of my life. I’m forced to have social security payments taken out of my paycheck because the government knows better than I. Everyday you hear about all the pork the government spends your money, paying tuition for illegals (I’m sure some of you will think this is ok- but I’d rather keep the money for myself), invading your privacy, taking your rights away and so on and so on. It’s all we need smaller government- EXCEPT for universal health care and blah blah blah. It’s kinda funny that I have to work a part time job so I can keep afloat after the government steals 40% of my income.
    “The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom.”

  7. Chris writes…

    Ah yes, from the same people who brought you Social Security, USPS, Medicare, Freddie Mac and the Iraq War are now going to run our health care!?!? I guess I must be a moron if I don’t think this is a good idea.

    Well it’s not a good sign that you seem to think that the Government is now running your health care. That would still fall to whichever insurance provider you’re paying. This does put some restrictions on insurance providers such that they can’t kick you to the curb if you get a disease they feel is too expensive and it gets rid of the lifetime maximums some plans had and it does make more people eligible for health care than previously, but it doesn’t have the government running it.

    Well, I suppose if you’re one of the folks on Medicaid (or now eligible for it) then, yes, in that situation the government is running your health care. Oddly enough most people who have Medicare are quite happy with it. More so than many people with private insurance, but what do they know?

    Being single and without kids I will be more than happy to have the government take more money from me so I can pay your bills. If you don’t think I’ll be paying your bills, how the hell do you think this government is going to pay for it.

    Someone call Chris a waaaaaahmbulance. Tell you what, when I can dictate that my taxes don’t go to pay for killing tens of thousands of people in unnecessary wars started under false pretenses then I’ll be happy to let you dictate that your taxes don’t go towards helping people get needed health care.

    Here’s the rub, though: You’re going to pay one way or the other. Whether it’s in taxes to the government or in higher insurance costs because the hospitals have to charge more to cover all the people who wait until they’re so sick they can make use of the emergency rooms. The costs of not covering the insured are passed onto you either way and it’s more expensive in the long run not to cover people than it is to give them the insurance they need.

    I guess it is my libertarian leanings but shouldn’t I be able to control more of my life.

    Sure, go off and buy yourself a little island of your own outside of America and you can have total control over your life. If you want to stay in America then there’s a social contract you’ll have to submit to. It includes trifling things like not punching strangers at random for no reason, participating in jury duty, and contributing part of your income in taxes to serve the common good. We can argue over what the common good might be, but whining that you’re paying taxes towards it just makes you look like a selfish prick.

    I’m not even going to bother to reply to the rest of your comment as it’s the standard whiny bullshit we’ve come to expect from folks on the Right.

  8. This thread reminds me of all the non-productive threads I have read elsewhere. But, people are upset on both sides of the fence or Left vs Right, if you will. While being a Libertarian myself, I don’t follow the purist “out for yourself” philosophy that many subscribe to. Do you really really think that any political party is out there for your benefit or well-being?

    This country was founded by individuals working together. This country will fail, if we keep loosing track of that ideal. I for one won’t mind paying a bit more to help my fellow American get some healthcare. It is not socialism to take care of your fellow man, it is humanity.

    I agree with Les, you want total control of you life, go live in an uninhabited area. You can make the rules and abide to no social consciousness. When you live in a community, it is in your best interest to make sure those around you are ok, if not, your community will crumble.

  9. Les:
    FYI, I’m not on the right, or the left. I’m all for gay marriage, legalization of drugs- but I do agree with the right on a few occasions. If you think I come across as a selfish prick, I am not the one asking other people to foot my bills (not pointing at health care in particular). I’ve worked since I was 15 and have been responsible to never borrow a cent in my lifetime. I’m not contributing to any of the financial messes or leaving a burden on other people because of my actions. I just believe in a smaller government that would mean less taxes and more disposable income which would build jobs and a better living for everyone. Throwing tax dollars to the poor and government programs has not fixed any of these problems. We don’t need, or want, the government getting involved in the minutia of our daily lives. Yes, it sucks seeing people get sick without insurance, but why should I be punished for the actions of others. I’ll end here since I know we’ll just agree to disagree, but I just want to say it is funny reading some of your blogs about how stupid some of the right are at tea partys when you can just as easily find the same stupidity at an anti-war protest (I am anti-war, but there are some stupid people there).
    -Chris

    PS: love your site and have been reading it for many years religiously- no joke : )

  10. Republicans acting like hypocrites… shocking.
    There are more lobbyists in Washington than there are congressmen. Republican politicians need corporate donations in order to survive in the political arena, and if they have to lie and obstruct to save the health care industry from reform they will, because it will only get them more donations. Lying is their livelihood. The Tea Party punks are little more than a poor man’s version of the KKK. Hurling bricks, hurling racial slurs at black congressmen, making death threats. I hope that everyone has seen the video of these shits harassing a man with Parkinson’s.
    When Big Business and the Republican Party are faced with reform and change, even moderate reform and change (this bill is hardly liberal), their first response is to rally the uneducated racists, and that is the Tea Party and the conservative base in a nut shell. Limbaugh said recently that health care reform is reparations. That kind of race bating rhetoric is the foundation of the conservative movement.
    The fact is that these people hardly noticed when Bush was raising the debt. Taxes are lower now under Obama. I am not particularly fond of these Democrats, but minor change is better than none. Conservatives and their failed ideology cannot re-take control of the nation, I hope that liberals continue to vote and don’t get apathetic. Republicans almost sunk this country the last time, but there are still morons who want to vote for them. Some people will never learn.

  11. I really feel that there has to be a change in the rules to make those responsible for the rules more accountable.

    For example, I feel that every decision made by a politician should have to be under advisement from a lawyer. Take the Dover School Board trial. These bunch of right wing ideologues try to get the teaching of ID/creationism into schools. This is found to be unconstitutional (of course), and removed from the school boards teachings. However, in the mean time, the School Board has wasted a huge amount of time, energy and money in defending against what is a clear abuse of the system. I think we should be able to go after the individual who propose these idiotic and unconstitutional ideas. We cannot go after people who are sincere and made a mistake, however – that’s not fair. Thus the importance of the legal advice. If the lawyer were to say “passing this law would be unconstitutional” and they choose to do so anyway, I feel it is justifiable to go after the people who proposed the law. This would surely lead to less people trying to enact laws and regulations that are unconstitutional.

    Of course, not all lawyers are going to give good advice. Well, that’s simple. If a lawyer tells the board that something is constitutional, but isn’t, they should be sued themselves.

    I think this could work at all levels of government, from school board to senator. Something is truly needed to stop ideologues pulling this kind of thing, then hiding behind the board and wasting tax-payers money. Perhaps the libertarians and conservatives should be getting behind this idea to help save money, which could them be spent on something useful, like saving lives.

  12. Chris writes…

    If you think I come across as a selfish prick, I am not the one asking other people to foot my bills (not pointing at health care in particular).

    You make it sound like you gain nothing from this health care reform. That this is nothing more than an additional tax on you that goes to lazy welfare queens. Have you even looked at whats in the bill? The folks at The Consumerist have a good roundup of links about the bill you might want to consider reading.

    I’ve worked since I was 15 and have been responsible to never borrow a cent in my lifetime. I’m not contributing to any of the financial messes or leaving a burden on other people because of my actions.

    That’s very admirable, seriously, but not everyone can be you. Not everyone who is struggling is doing so because they’re lazy. Not everyone who is a burden is at fault for their situation. Though the fact that you haven’t done those things so far doesn’t rule out the possibility that you may in the future through no fault of your own. I have no idea what your financial situation is, but unless you’re in the 1% of the population that’s the richest of the rich it’s quite possible that a single catastrophic illness is all it would take to make you a burden. This is especially so if you are single and without any kids. As you get older your base of family members you can rely on for help will shrink continuously.

    I just believe in a smaller government that would mean less taxes and more disposable income which would build jobs and a better living for everyone. Throwing tax dollars to the poor and government programs has not fixed any of these problems.

    That seems an overly simplistic approach to me. How small is small enough? How little taxes would make you happy? What do we do with the underprivileged and poor in your vision? Personally I don’t think you can have effective government without being willing to pay for it. That’s not to say that there isn’t waste and inefficiency in the system, but that’s not an argument for scrapping the system so much as one for working towards a better system.

    The argument that lower taxes will make more jobs seems intuitive, but there have been some studies that suggest that is not the case at all.

    We don’t need, or want, the government getting involved in the minutia of our daily lives.

    Who said anything about the government being involved in the minutia of our daily lives? Maybe it’s just me, but having access to affordable health care that isn’t canceled the moment I have an illness the company thinks is too costly isn’t exactly what I’d consider minutia.

    Yes, it sucks seeing people get sick without insurance, but why should I be punished for the actions of others.

    Two problems with that sentence: 1) Your assumption that being taxed is a punishment. 2) Your assumption that someone getting sick is the direct result of their actions.

    You may as well argue that you shouldn’t have to pay taxes that go to the Fire Department because you’ve never caused a fire that needed people to show up and put it out so why should you be punished for the actions of those idiots who let their houses catch on fire? Or the police for that matter. You’ve never had need to call the police so why should you pay for the other idiots who let their houses be burgled?

    I admit this is a deeply personal issue for me for two reasons: First, I have lost a family member to an easily treatable illness because she was unemployed and her husband’s job didn’t offer insurance. Second, I’ve done my own share of time working at jobs that didn’t offer affordable insurance in the past couple of years as I’ve struggled to get back on my feet in a shitty Michigan economy and had an emergency with my daughter in that time.

    I suppose there’d be a certain entertainment value in having me write about the death of a loved one because affordable insurance wasn’t an option, but it’s not the sort of entry I particularly like writing. For as idiotic as I consider the average American to be I still have enough empathy for them that I would much prefer we went to a Single Payer system that took the best from the systems used in Canada, France and the U.K.. If you don’t like the modest reform we just passed, you’d absolutely hate the system I was hoping for.

  13. Chris wrote

    I just believe in a smaller government that would mean less taxes and more disposable income which would build jobs and a better living for everyone. Throwing tax dollars to the poor and government programs has not fixed any of these problems.

    I can see what you want. I can understand it. However, the role of government is to balance things up a bit, to make the little guys and the big guys play by the same rules. Without things like anti-monopoly rules and government departments regulating worker’s conditions well the rich would just get richer and more powerful, and the poor would get poorer and more downtrodden. You would take away the government and put in its place a new set of rulers, unelected and unaccountable.

    We tried laissez-faire economics in the past. It doesn’t work. It was laissez-faire type processes which led to the collapse of the financial industry in 2008 because the regulations which should have been in place to prevent the “creative accounting” of firms such as Lehman brother weren’t there.

  14. I was all for socialized healthcare/medicine, but not at all the way they did it. Now, like car insurance, all they are doing is indirectly handing insurance companies MORE of our money by allowing legalized extortion; Either pay $5,000 of my own money to get health insurance myself or pay a stupidly high fine for not buying something I don’t want in the first place!

    With car insurance, I’m paying twice the value of my car every year in premiums when I’ve never used their “services” even once in 8 years of driving.

    With socialized healthcare paid for out of my income taxes I know the money is going to fund government projects and/or other people that use healthcare.
    With this crap, I’m just putting money into an insurance company’s bank account with NOTHING in return!

  15. I’ve tried to understand the point of view Chris espouses, but it does not make any sense. Programs that benefit all of society also benefit the individual. A socialized educational system benefits everyone, both those who benefit though being able to send kids to school without going bankrupt, and those without kids, after all where the hell do you think your Dr, dentist, accountant etc come from. Maybe you don’t have kids and so argue against paying school taxes because you are too blind to see the benefit.

    Same for socialized medicine. A healthy population without fear of economic bankruptcy over minor health issues benefits everyone. If the person working to serve you your egg mc muffin, coffee, newspaper, or favorite blog doesn’t have to worry about being able to see a doctor, they are more productive. And they have the money to do things like maintain their blog. While your new health care program is pathetic, as it really does do more for the private insurance companies then it does for individuals, it is a tiny step towards an enlightened health care.

    Living in a group requires that you support others, so you can depend on them when needed. Gilligan’s Island, or the USA, no matter how you look at it, you have to contribute to others welfare to improve your own.

  16. To me, as Ginger said, the crux is ” A healthy population without fear of economic bankruptcy over minor health issues benefits everyone”

    Society benefits from having a healthy, educated populace. The simple plain truth of that statement should be obvious to even the casual observer of social history. Even without the overwhelming evidence of the past, it would be a safe assumption to make on reasoning alone.

    History has borne out another truth again and again. Without a third party to act as mediator, businesses tend to become oppressive, and form monopolies.

    The Great Depression and the 19th Century trusts and robber-barons really were NOT that long ago.. Child-labor, unsafe conditions, etc etc are the hallmark of unregulated capitalism.

    As far as government spending, I think Alain Keynes demonstrated conclusively that it works to raise an economy when *nothing else will*. When problems can’t solve themselves, or won’t, we need a government who can step in and do the right thing (in theory). Government spending PUTS MONEY INTO CIRCULATION, where even Adam Smith would agree that its fecundity creates more wealth.

    My problem is with this forced purchase of insurance. It is a subsidy of an inefficient system, an outrageously profitabl system, in large part due to pharmaceutical drugs costs, in my opinion.

    I had to laugh, I’m like Moloch; I spend more each year than the value of my car in insurance, and have never had an accident.

    And if you dont buy it? Well, they impound your car and fine you 500 (!) dollars.

    It’s happened to me 6 times. So now I pay..

    LEGALIZED EXTORTION. Oh well.

    I supported the public option, and that was dead three months ago. Oh well.

  17. I wish the Republicans would make an about face from “COMMIES!!!!” to “When we’re in power we’re going to make this legislation lean and practical, and make it as useful as possible for the least amount of cost.” I’d be hard pressed not to respect them for that, just as it’s nearly impossible to respect them now. I often think Democrats are douchebags, but at least they’re the principled douchebags who actually got their acts together enough to do something good for the poor and middle classes. The only thing Republicans have done for either of those groups is to throw more religion and Glenn Beck at them for years.

  18. Sorry, but this sentence by Les is another crystallized truth underlying the debate, and is important, so to show my enthusiam I’m reposting it

    ” The costs of not covering the insured are passed onto you either way and it’s more expensive in the long run not to cover people than it is to give them the insurance they need. ”

    Please Chris, stop and really think about that. That pretty much sums up the futility of “argument from expense”.

    One of the hugest problems with modern capitalism is it believe in the MYTH of “external costs”.
    External costs are on a merry-go-round, and they will find their way back to you one way or another. It is only sensible to try to manage them inside the equation rather then pass the buck, so to speak. Heh.

  19. It’s like when I was talking on another forum recently to this guy from Poland who was bemoaning the fact that the US was “too involved” with the politics of his country. You know what? Fuck it, we’re all on the same block. The world is a community. If Poland (or Greece, or the US housing market, to make things more clear) gets fucked up then we’re all fucking paying for it one way or another. When Mexico’s economy is in shambles, it means more illegals hop fences. When your neighbor’s house burns down, it drives down the value of your own house. If the world is a shitty place somewhere, it makes the whole world shittier no matter how green and glorious you keep your own backyard.

    If I get sick, Chris, you suffer from my illness as much I’d suffer if you’d lose your job. It takes a while, and of course it doesn’t impact others the way it impacts oneself, but in the aggregate that’s irrelevant. It gets made up for with large numbers.

    In the past we didn’t often see this in terms we could grasp, because communications and trade flowed slowly. We don’t have that luxury today, and we certainly won’t have it any easier tomorrow.

    BTW – you might also add in other things the government obviously can’t do right: Providing free public education (of admittedly arguable quality) for every child in the country, the national highway system everyone uses, providing you with safe food and drink – not to mention medicines and keeping large objects like satellites and airplanes from falling upon you, licensing the doctors that probably helped you give birth, and thousands of other things.

    And I didn’t agree with the Iraq war either, but from a “government spending money properly” side, all things associated with “did we have to fight in the first place” dismissed, our military does a pretty damned good job too. And that’s not about the soldiers themselves, idiots opinions aside- our eighteen year olds aren’t ubermensch better than other people’s kids sent into the military in other countries. It’s a direct result of appropriate and mostly proper spending programs on the part of the government that we can even dream of picking up tens of thousands of soldiers, send them thousands of miles into the middle of nowhere and support them better than any military has ever been supported in history, owning an absolutely supreme superiority preventing anything but the most asymmetric of retaliations to our occupation. The only thing holding us back is our own humanity and professionalism, which in turn is a matter of training – also part of our obviously poorly maintained government spending I guess.

    People are naturally wired to only see things when they break sometimes in the same way that they’re sometimes naturally wired to ascribe anomalies to things like miracles and superstitions, which is in turn wired to the weird way people grasp things like gambling. Sometimes the government IS broke, but mostly it’s broke because the government has a truly phenomenal and comprehensive auditing machine in place that tells us that things are broke, and because private companies and individuals are greed corrupt assholes, when they’re not merely being uniformed or idiots.

  20. My 6 year old has more self control and decorum than these folks. He’s also far more rational. And probably more literate than many…

    They are more like toddlers – my baby didn’t get her way today so she screamed and flailed for a few minutes…when that didn’t get her what she wanted she crept over and bit me on the foot.

  21. Runaway Lawyer

    I think Obama’s secret service detail should manage to prevent the Rethuglicans from biting his foot. One would hope anyway…..

    Still, best not to give them any ideas (they have so few of their own)

  22. I could defintely see Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh being a foot biter…I bet Glenn cries while he does it, and makes little hissing and grunting sounds like an agitated possum or racoon.

    Hmmm…might make a good youtube video or photoshopped picture….I’m thinking the feet would belong to Nancy Pelosi, or maybe Ann Coulter or Sarah Palin made up to look like Nancy Pelosi, in black pleather dominatrix gear, maybe a large black rubber strap-on and a riding crop…

    I should probably stop now for my own mental health…

  23. Chris, you act all high and mighty.. What happens when you lose your job and the only job you can find is part time at walnut.. Whoops! Part-time employees are not eligible for health care.. Gosh, I hope you don’t get sick.. Or need a transplant.. What will you do then?

    You claim Americans are lazy, but most of the jobs available are low paying jobs where you get treated like garbage, with no benefits.. Oh, and don’t you dare take a night class or you might lose your precious minimum wage job!

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