I’ve decided to quit drinking so much pop.

I’ve been a heavy pop (or soda if you prefer) drinker for most of my adult life. It’s not unusual for me to go through between four and six cans of pop in a day and as I’m getting older it occurs to me that that can’t be too good for my health even though I switched to drinking diet pop some six years ago. So I decided to tell Anne that once my current supply of Diet Coke runs out that I didn’t want her buying any more. There’s still a few cans left, but I’ve already started drinking other things during the day. I’m not completely cutting out pop drinking as that’s what I’ll probably drink when we eat out, but I am cutting way back and expect to have several days in a week where I don’t drink any at all.

The problem for me becomes one of what to drink. I’ve said previously that I can’t stand drinking more than a glass or two of plain water and I’m very picky about what container it’s put into because I can pick up on taste from plastics and I’m not a fan of adding lemon to it. I’ve been drinking more milk, but when you have a cold that’s just asking for added congestion. I’m also drinking more coffee and that’ll probably become my primary drink during the winter months at least. Orange juice has been feeling the wrath of my thirst lately as well. I like some flavored waters out there, like the Fruit2O drinks, but damn if they’re not expensive. I’m not much for tea, but I may try a few to see if I can find one that I can tolerate.

So what about you guys? What inexpensive alternatives to pop do you rely on to get you through the day? Any suggestions for dressing up water to make it more tolerable to someone who’s picky about taste?

45 thoughts on “I’ve decided to quit drinking so much pop.

  1. Water, iced tea (the crappy juice mix stuff). Orange juice, and fruit smoothies. Like a lot of students, I used to have a fixation on caffeinated drinks, and especially the new energy drinks craze that is all over the market. I feel much, much, much better after cutting caffeine from my diet. Do try to cut that out.

    I have a soft-spot for sweet drinks, and a soft-spot for all sorts of breads, cakes, and pastries. I haven’t completely shed any of them, but as long as I steer towards healthier forms of these things, like bran muffins or such, I’m okay.

  2. Actually, it rather depends on the water itself. There’s nothing quite like a tall glass of very cold water up where my grandparents live, but I absolutely hate the flavor of the water where I live. So if you’re not liking the water, it might be the water itself. Mineral water tastes best, especially cold, but if you can’t get it without expense…

    Well, you can always try a good tea. Done right (Splenda instead of sugar), it can make a healthy alternative to pop. And to coffee as well, by the way. Tea doesn’t have quite as much caffeine or caffeine precursors as coffee does.

  3. I’ve currently cut sodas from my diet which left me in a similar boat as you Les.  I hate plain tap water unless it is from specific areas of Texas. I’ve recently been drinking a lot more tea whether it be hot tea in the morning or iced tea at lunch.  Mornings I’ll brew my own, afternoons I’ll drink something premade.  Arizona Sweet Tea is pretty good, also tried Tradewinds (decent) and Red Diamond (not that good).  Otherwise it’s milk or gatorade or juice (if we’ve got it).

    My girlfriend drinks Vitamin Water, but that can be a bit expensive at no less than a dollar for 20 ounce bottle. 

    I’m thinking I’m gonna bust out the Kool-aid before long.  The fruit punch (kind where you just add water) was always pretty good and was a staple in my roommate and my fridge in college.

  4. I drink Kroger bottled water. We have well [or simply “hard”] water at our apartment so we usually buy bottled water. For some reason Kroger water just taste the best to me. Mostly because it’s so unremarkable, other bottled water brands taste like plastic to me, or sometimes a bit grainy [hard to describe but there is slight texture].

    I also buy a lot of Simply Orange orange juice. It’s in my opinion the best tasting pure orange juice you can buy. When I’m at home with the parents I drink Arizona Diet Green Tea with Ginseng and Honey. They are obsessed with it and buy it in the big gallon jugs like 3 at a time. I love it too and before I started drinking it I was never a big fan of tea.

  5. I bought an ice tea maker that works sort of like a coffee pot. You pour water in it, fill the pitcher with ice, pop in a family-size tea bag and a little sugar, and are ready to brew. I’m also trying to reduce the pop intake, and this has been helping a lot. Very inexpensive, and tea is supposed to have some health benefits.

  6. I’ve never been a soda drinker, because I don’t like to use sugar passively.  I drink too much coffee, and break it up by drinking Lipton tea.  I’ve been in search of something different to drink also, but find it hard.  I tried Postum and don’t like it.  Sometimes I drink plain hot water to avoid so much caffeine.  I won’t drink decaf or anything fake.  In hot weather, I’ve tried flavored bottled water – lemon, orange or lime, but I forget the brand name.  It looks like a liter bottle and costs around 89 cents on sale.  For those who do like lemon in their water or tea, getting one of those plastic lemons in the produce department – ours has real lemon juice from Italy – is a good alternative to a real lemon, as they don’t yield enough and I am prone to waste them.

  7. I mix water with juice.  I get a little “flavor” but not the full serving of sugar that comes with straight juice.  My favorite juices to cut with h20 are cranberry and pomegranate.  My preferred ratio is about 1/3 juice and fill the rest of the way with ice water.  I can no longer stand to drink juice that isn’t cut with water because it seems way to sweet.  Those big jugs of juices go on sale all the time in my area, plus I’m making it last twice as long than if I were to drink it straight.

  8. Water, only water.  If you don’t like the taste you can get a Brita filter which will eliminate chlorine and other bad flavors.  Just water.  It’s the best thing for you.

    Science Goddess

  9. A little side note here.

    I used to drink about 2 liters of pop (Pepsi) a day.

    A few years back, I was diagnosed with high blood pressure. The doctors never bothered to ask about my caffeine or pop intake. They put me on medicine that was occasionally effective.

    I took the medication for two years with mixed results. Then (at someone’s suggestion) I stopped drinking the pop. I also stopped the medication. Within two weeks my blood pressure was back to normal and has remained there ever since.

  10. The thing about soft drinks is they are high is acidity, so even the no sugar ones are bad for teeth and digestive tract.

    I drink far too much tea at work, so at weekends get ‘caffine headaches’, part due to lack of caffine, part due to the fact I just drink far less at the weekends.  My tea intake is directly related to the boredom/annoyance I am undergoing- you know when I am enjoying a task, because I don’t stop to make tea!

    I’m also not great on plain water- try adding a hint of lemon squash (yes I know what you said about lemon, but I mean ‘squash’- do you have this in America? Basically mixed 1:4 or 1:5 with water- I use 1:10 for a ‘water’ drink).  I have this as a bedside drink (low sugar as I have brushed my teeth) ok not great, but it is really just a splash to take the ‘non taste’ away- I have normal strenth in the day- try lemon barley water (a bit more expensive, but really nice). 

    Also how about proper lemon tea- make the tea as normal, but add 2 slices of lemon instead of milk- I find it’s great for colds (or make a Hot Toddy like my mum- add honey and whisky (no ‘e’ is best for this)- seriously nice- almost worth catching a cold for). Also hot blackcurrent- blackcurrent squash (or Vimto if you are feeling extravagent) made as normal, but with boiling water.

    If I drink water I prefer mineral water- proper mineral water from a spring- not the fake ‘desani’ stuff- Perrier, Buxton spring- the sort of stuff that you know is pure because it has about a gram of dirt in every litre (look at the boil off stats they give to see what I mean).- Sparkling is my choice (yes I know thats artificial).

    A good summer drink (not for work) is Pint glass, ice cubes, bottled (not draught) Guiness, and top up with ginger beer (not ale, beer- see previous thread)- seriously nice on a hot summer day, plus half the alchol of a normal pint.

    I’d avoid fruit teas- smell great, no taste.

  11. Some very interesting suggestions in here. And I promise, SG, that I will try to drink more plain old water, but even the filtered stuff is BLEH!

  12. Try drinking nothing but water or tea (decaf after noon) for a month.  I normally drink water at room temperature because it’s easier on my teeth. 

    You can make a gallon of tea by filling a gallon jug with water, drop in four teabags, and let stand until morning.  Use a dessert tea like Republic Of Tea Vanilla Almond Decaf and you won’t need any sweetener.  Refrigerate > brewing.  Cost 64 cents per gallon.

    I just endlessly refill an old coke bottle from the drinking fountain. But here in Normal we are blessed with excellent tap water. If the tap water in your area is contaminated with nitrates or metals then yes, it should be filtered.  If you must drink bottled water, Sam’s club is excellent.

    Best of luck!

  13. I switched off soda also and on to tea. I drink English Breakfast or English Teatime hot and for iced I recommend Luzianne. I avoid Lipton and Nestea because I find them bitter. You could always order “Earl Grey, HOT!” (I do drink Earl Grey but not for every day.)

  14. I’m going to have to agree with lots of people here that tea is the way to go but I’m more partical to the green teas than many of the blacks.  When thirst is needing quenching, the greens have a much mellower taste and don’t remind me of bottled nestea so much.  I recommend gunpowder or another fancy type for picky tea drinkers but try to find an inexpensive one; with green tea being all the rage right now I would be surprized if someone wasn’t making it cheap.

  15. I’m picky about water taste too, can’t stand the chlorine taste of filtered water.  Given that most bottled water is filtered, most of it doesn’t taste much better than tap (undrinkable by my standards) but i love Distilled water.  It’s the cleanest tasting water you can get, mostly because it’s clean water.  And it only costs a couple bucks for a 2 1/2 gallons.

  16. I think the chlorine will outgas if you let the water stand for 24 hours or so.

    Also those bottled-water services that drop off 5-gallon bottles of filtered water are fairly reasonable.

  17. Dude! MetroMint water is DA BOMB! No sweeteners, just water with a hint of mint and orange or lemon. ice cold (or actually, frozen and drunk while it melts), way better than any pop ever invented.

    Kinda expensive @ $1.25 per bottle, but it waned me off my addiction to Diet Pepsi.

    Failing that, Tequila Herradura Anejo does the trick for me every time grin

    Get better from that cold!

  18. I never drink soda except when going out. At home, I like drinking plain tap water (though I will agree that local quality is important – thankfully, even in the “Big Smoke” of Auckland, tap water in NZ tastes well enough).

    But when I’m bored of water, or have no milk/juice left, i use tap water plus vitamin tablets (the fizzy, orange or whatever-taste types). Acquired taste, and a bit of a ‘seasonal’ like, but good enough for a quick drink.

  19. Recently I got up to one or two bottles of beer a day, and my waistline was noticing it.  Now I’m off all alcohol, and am slimming down.  I’ll probably gain it all back this summer in California, though, with salsa and chips…

    In Vienna, I drink a lot of water, which is very good here: no chlorine, fresh from the mountains.  I also drink a lot of herbal tea- there are so many different kinds and combinations, you can probably find something you like.  There’s a blend of cacao and spices I’m partial to.

    For your cold, I recommend a very strong ginger tea.  Cut thin slices of fresh ginger, a piece about the size of your thumb for a pint, steep for at least half an hour in hot water, add lemon and honey to taste.  Really clears out the sinuses.

  20. San Pellegrino sparkling mineral water with a slice or two of lime. Very refreshing, plus vitamin C and a nice flavor.

    San Pellegrino (from the Italian Dolomite mountains) is the ‘Champagne’ of mineral waters in my opinion, but any good quality sparkling should be just as good.

    See http://www.sanpellegrino.com/

    Research has just been published (sorry, forget the source), that says that diet drinks break the link between the occurence of a sweet taste and the body preparing to process calories. The same research shows that diet soda drinkers consequently eat more carbs at their next meal – effectively overcompensating for the ‘sugar hit’ they were deprived of earlier.

  21. San Pellegrino is nice, but expensive to drink all day.  I still like the reaction Coke got when it brought Dasani to Europe. Basically ‘Fuck off’.  The funny thing was that there is an episode of “Only Fools and Horses” where Del-Boy sells tap water, after faking it to the testers as natural mineral water, as Peckham Water, and when the news broke that all Coke used was filtered tap water it only took a few days to find out that their bottling plant was near Peckham.  I believe they lost a fortune on the whole thing.

    In the UK there should be no need to drink bottled water as the filtering system you get on tap water makes it very pure.  The biggest problem is the hardness of the water.  Here in the south the aquifers are in chalk, so it does pick up a lot of calcium carbonate.

    I know there is a legal difference here between spring and mineral, one is more ‘straight from source’ than the other, but I can never remember which way round.  There are no health benefits, but I do like the ‘sulphury’ taste of some.

  22. Everything in moderation, I say. I think most of these “studies” and “shock revelations” about diet drinks are totally bloated up in sensationalism. I mean sure, they aren’t exactly good for you I admit, but when drank in moderation with other drinks I doubt they do any harm.

    I’m a big fan of Pepsi Max (I think it’s known as “Diet Pepsi Max” in the States) but one 1,5 liter bottle lasts me 2-3 days. Also I drink milk, juices and water in between my Pepsi. I’m in good health(well, I got the same cold as Les now, but other than that) and my teeth haven’t rotten out.

    Pretty much with everything in life, just walk the middle path and you should be fine. Oh, and lots of teas have MORE caffeine than a cup of coffee, so if you choose to go the tea side of life, pick your teas carefully.

  23. The fizzy drink thing isn’t really over hyped. ‘Fat’ Coke contains about 40g (8 teaspoons) of sugar per can.  My wife bought me a 500ml bottle of ‘lower sugar’ fanta Lemon Ice, and it contained half my RDA of sugar. My kids dentist said even no sugar pops are bad for teeth, because one of the major contributors is the acidity.  Plus there is a reason they have to warn of phenylalanine on artificial sweetened products- some people have a genetic defect which makes it dangerous – Phenylketonuria.  Incidence (according to the wiki) is between 1:4,500 (Ireland) and 1:100,000 (Finland)- with an average of 1:15,000, which actually makes it more common than many of the recent health scares over-hyped by the press.

    The thing about tea/coffee caffine is a partial myth.  While tea leaves contain more caffine by weight than coffee beans, because more beans are used to make a drink, a cup of coffee has about 3 times the caffine. (Book of General Ignorance, Lloyd/Mitchinson- one of the holy books of The Church of Jenkinites, even if Les doesn’t know it.)

  24. Last Hussar. I can’t agree more about the water hardness. I grew up in Northern Ireland where the Mourne mountains and resevoirs are granite. When I moved to south east england, I found it hard to take the film that floats on tea, and the sludge at the bottom of the cup!

    San Pellegrino has a beautiful taste of its own, but is expensive, so Highland Spring (organic) is my next best choice. With lime, sparkling mineral water is an unbeatable thirst quencher.

  25. Last Hussar, that thing about caffeine in tea is probably true but a US study found that teabags give twice the amount of caffeine as loose tea leaves(http://www.amazing-green-tea.com). So that seems to be a factor as well. So it isn’t that straightforward. So I still don’t suggest going in and buying tea blindfold if the aim is to cut on your caffeine intake.

  26. Thanks DoF!

    Tesco’s over here do flavoured ‘spring’ waters- I think that means they are treated/filtered.  They are carbonated and then juice added- my prefernce is lime- I find lemon and/or lime flavoured water the most refreshing/thirst quenching

  27. I’m a heavy mountain dew drinker and i find that if i’m out of it and having cravings really bad that drinking orange juice puts an immediate end to it… the downside? acid reflux, blech

  28. Happy B-Day Last Hussar!

    Les, I recommend going at least 2 weeks with no soda. And drink only water and tea. After that you won’t care about soda anymore and it will prolly taste like shit to you. Most people find this to be true. And your health will start to improve rather quickly too.

    And whatever you do don’t get hooked on diet sodas. This is a big mistake many people make. Most diet sodas are worse for your body than regular. The sweeteners block your body’s ability to burn fat. I recommend talking to a nutritionist if you need more info or want to know more of the science behind it.

    Oh, one last thing. It’s a little expensive but you could try Izze. Very healthy (just pure fruit juice not from concentrate with carbonated water) and taste amazing!!

    Best of luck to ya!

  29. I’ve been drinking diet sodas for a couple of years now. It was a nutritionist who told me to make the switch as my high soda consumption was making me borderline diabetic at the time.

    Once the current batch of diet is gone, though, I won’t be buying anymore. I’ll just have the occasional drink when eating out. I’m not planning on eliminating it completely, just cutting way back.

  30. high soda consumption was making me borderline diabetic

    Woman I sit nest to at work was feeling thirsty all the time, so she kept drinking coke.  The more she drank the worse the problem came.  Then she was diagnosed diabetic- thirst being a symptom.

  31. The sweeteners block your body’s ability to burn fat. I recommend talking to a nutritionist if you need more info or want to know more of the science behind it.

    Is this true? I’m diabetic so I have been drinking diet soda for years, but I also have been trying to lose weight to varying degrees without much measurable success. I’d be interested in reading the research on this, especially since if it’s a matter of the sweeteners in diet sodas causing it I’m pretty screwed unless manufacturers start putting a lot more Splenda and stevia in their products (I’ve never seen anything with stevia, but Splenda is showing up more).

  32. I haven’t been able to drink NutraSweet since the late ‘80s (it gives me a blazing headache until I throw it back up, which is really weird, considering I’m not allergy-prone in any other way).  The calories in regular soda I can’t afford in a 1400-calorie diet.  (The wages of being female and forty—and a sedentary programmer.)

    So it’s either coffee (mixed about half-and-half with skim mil) or tea.  In the summer I like water with a splash of lime juice.  Otherwise, I’m pretty picky about the tea—the plain black stuff has to be doctored with honey and milk; otherwise, it’s Earl Grey or something flavored with lemon, mint or orange spice if I’m looking for a pick-me-up; chamomile if not.

    Actually, substituting chamomile for dandelion in the dandelion wine recipe makes a kickass wine, too, but I doubt you’ll get away with drinking ~that~ at work…  wink  If only this were a civilized nation and we could have a beer if we felt like it.  Alas, the Puritans got the drop on just about everybody else…  Sigh.

  33. Diet soda raises your insulin levels just as fast as sugar does. As a nutritionist said once, “Why do you think only fat people drink diet soda?” She was being a little jocular, but it got the point across.

  34. @Bog Brother:

    I don’t know specifically whether sweeteners block your fat-burning ability, but my personal opinion is that artificial sweeteners mess up your entire system.  My husband works in a retirement home where they have products especially for diabetics – like ice cream, and we were just talking about that.  I think it would be healthier to just not eat something than to eat the diabetic version of it.  The entire menu, including the diabetic products, is put together by a nutritionist.  When taking a nutrition class in college, we had a guest speaker from the state who was a nutritionist.  She remarked that there was no difference between the sugar in an orange and a piece of candy, and said that her kids did not behave any differently on Halloween than any other night of the year.  I thought that was just plain dumb, but I was not the expert – only the contrarienne that I still am wink  I’d considered being a nutritionist myself, but abandoned the idea when presented with what is taught as valid information.

  35. Diet soda raises your insulin levels just as fast as sugar does.

    I don’t necessarily disbelieve you, but do you have a source for this info Webs?  I have to admit that I do feel differently when I drink diet soda, but I haven’t seen my blood sugar levels drastically altered after drinking diet soda on a consistent basis (increased insulin would generally drop blood glucose levels).  I have seen a drop in BG levels after having a diet soda, but this could have been due to me missing a meal/snack. Diabetes requires not only a constant level of insulin but also a measured amount of glucose intake and missing a scheduled intake can really mess you up.

    Admittedly, I could give up diet soda altogether, but it is an easier source of caffeine for me in the morning than trying to tackle coffee in the car.

    She remarked that there was no difference between the sugar in an orange and a piece of candy, and said that her kids did not behave any differently on Halloween than any other night of the year.

    Well it is almost completely true.  Glucose is glucose. There are two issues that make an orange or apple different from candy though:

    1. The fruit may contain more complex sugars which will take the digestive tract longer to break down into glucose.  Fruit also tends to have fiber, which can also increase the digestion time.

    2. The orange is healthier because of the nutrients such as vitamin c. Fruit does not always get it’s calories from just the sugar (though it is a large part of it), as almost all fruit has dietary fiber in addition to the sugars. Candy will generally just be all sugar.

    As for her kid’s behavior, did she happen to mention if her kids are always hyper to begin with? It would also be important to know if her kids ate an uncontrolled amount of candy (I suspect not) or if they were restricted to how much they had.

  36. I was able to conjure up a few…
    WomentoWomen

    Fowler and her team studied more than 1500 people between the ages of 25 and 64, looking at whether each consumed regular or diet soft drinks. It was no surprise to find a correlation between the daily consumption of multiple cans of all soft drinks and obesity — which they did. But, as Fowler noted, “What was surprising was when we
    looked at people only drinking diet soft drinks; their risk of obesity was even higher” [than that of those drinking regular soft drinks]. In fact, Fowler found that for each can of diet soft drink consumed per day, the risk of obesity went up by 41%.

    eMax Health

    Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc on your fat loss efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain weight.  There are two main reasons for the Diet Coke fallacy.  First, the sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike, which blocks your ability to burn fat.  Second, artificial sweeteners found in Diet Coke disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full.  Combined, the actions of Diet Coke go against a healthy lifestyle.  Understanding why ensures that we think twice before consuming it.

    ABC Article on Fowler study mentioned above:

    She remembers being struck by the scene in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland in which Alice is offended because she is offered tea but is given none — even though she hadn’t asked for tea in the first place. So she helps herself to tea and bread and butter.

    That may be just what happens when we offer our bodies the sweet taste of diet drinks, but give them no calories. Fowler points to a recent study in which feeding artificial sweeteners to rat pups made them crave more calories than animals fed real sugar.

    “If you offer your body something that tastes like a lot of calories, but it isn’t there, your body is alerted to the possibility that there is something there and it will search for the calories promised but not delivered,” Fowler says.

    WebMD on Sweetners and Weight Gain:

    Rats in the Purdue University study that were fed regular feed and yogurt sweetened with no-calorie saccharin took in more total calories and gained more weight than rats fed regular feed and yogurt sweetened with sugar.

    Researchers speculate that over time, reduced-calorie sweeteners like saccharin, aspartame, and sucralose condition the body to no longer associate sweetness with calories, thereby disrupting its ability to accurately assess caloric intake.

    This disruption may, in turn, lead to overeating, they note.

    “If this is the case in rats, there is little reason to think that humans don’t have this same response,” researcher Susan Swithers, PhD tells WebMD. “It is possible that consuming these products interferes with one of the mechanisms that helps to regulate weight.”

    Others:
    Lancet

    Sugar-Added Beverages and Adolescent Weight Change: I will note the “n” is a little high on this study, so their findings don’t surprise me much.

    Sucrose compared with artificial sweeteners: different effects on ad libitum food intake and body weight after 10 wk of supplementation in overweight subjects: the “n” in this study is ridiculously small. And the findings in this one don’t surprise me much.

    This one looks interesting, but I can’t find full text for free

    Another interesting one with no full text

    And wiki

  37. …did she happen to mention if her kids are always hyper to begin with?

    She didn’t say, but it would make a difference if everyday were like Halloween for them.  She seemed to be emphasizing that glucose is glucose, but as though that makes it identical to the body regardless of the source.

  38. I think BogBrother is on the right track. Essentially sugar is sugar. What changes is that processed sugars react differently in the body than sugars from an Apple or Orange. Same with fats. All fats are bad and all fats will make you gain weight, all things being equal. And fats should be taken in moderation.

    Now if you workout a lot, get close to 10,000 steps a day, and live an active lifestyle, you can prolly take in more fats and sugars than an average US person since you will burn it all off. And will likely burn more fat for energy than glucose.

  39. Webs – the articles you cite have prompted me to research this more in order to find some solid evidence between the taste/insulin response. 

    I’ve already found suggestions that general food intake increases the insulin output, but the link between taste/food intake and insulin response is apparently not very solid as of yet. What is known is the primary mechanism for insulin release by the Islets of Langerhans lies in the beta cells of the Islets, which regulate insulin production by the amount of glucose they detect in the blood.

    In any event, I am now prompted to do further research into this subject, and might be motivated to renew my interest in nutrition enough to return to school to become a nutritionist (ok, maybe not too).  Either way, I think I’m going to do the same a Les and just quit drinking soda.

  40. Yea, I was told about this kind of stuff in high school, now that I think about it by a Gym teacher that believed aliens built the pyramids. The guy, while he might be a nut ball, got me interested into doing some more research, as well as an A&P;class I took in college about 4 years ago. I read a few books by medical professionals and the most complete one I came across was “You: The Owners Manual” a few years back. It prompted me to read a little more. I find the subject to be quite interesting too, but I don’t know about getting into professionally. I’m too busy with other things.

  41. Yea, I was told about this kind of stuff in high school, now that I think about it by a Gym teacher that believed aliens built the pyramids.

    Interesting… In a similar vein, the author of that eMax Health article you quoted from is selling miracle cures if you follow the link to his website. 

    One of the reasons I’m gonna look into the whole thing further (aside from being diabetic myself and more drastically affected by this stuff than a non-diabetic person) is that a lot of people that are nutritionists or experts in chemistry/medicine/general health also have some “interesting” ideas that they quite liberally weave into their evidence supported advice. 

    For example, the cited eMax article states in the 2nd paragraph that diet soda causes an insulin spike, but gives no reference to a research source, doesn’t even attempt to.  The 3rd paragraph changes gears and refers to a Purdue study of something completely different (I believe the penchant of those intaking artificial sweeteners to eat more?).  It seemed suspicious in my mind that the author would do this.  If you’re not careful while reading those two paragraphs you might think the first assertion was a finding of the research in the third paragraph.

    In any event, just as with anything else, you gotta be careful to sort out the woo from the true. I don’t think everyone that does it does it intentionally, but there are definitely some out there that use certain tactics to perpetrate things they believe without any shred of evidence to support their claims (an example of this is the anti-fluoridation in the drinking water crowd, or a more well known example would be the Catholic Church’s “warnings” about condoms in third world nations).

  42. I drink lots of water. … and tea. I like all tea’s but I am a green tea hound! I love that shit.

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