Gallup Survey: Most Republicans Reject Theory Of Evolution

According to CBS News, a recent Gallup Survey shows that 68% of Republicans “Disbelieve Scientific Explanation of Creation”:

A Gallup poll released Monday said that while the country is about evenly split over whether the theory of evolution is true, Republicans disbelieve it by more than 2-to-1.

Republicans saying they don’t believe in evolution outnumbered those who do by 68 percent to 30 percent in the survey. Democrats believe in evolution by 57 percent to 40 percent, as do independents by a 61 percent to 37 percent margin.

As Jon Stewart might say, “Republicans, meet me at camera three”.

OK, Republicans, we understand that you’re devout.  We understand that you love God.  That’s simply beautiful, it really is.  Regardless of that, you have to stop cherry-picking the facts.  Evolution is a fact, just like some of those other facts that are somewhat less controversial, like Heliocentrism.  OK, this is less controversial now.  The church no longer arrests and executes people who believe that the sun is at the center of our solar system because there’s just simply such an abundance, a cornucopia if you will, of observational evidence,  that no rational person would claim otherwise.

The same is true for the facts of evolution: That species emerge and change over very long periods of time.  That some species that used to exist, no longer exist.  Further, it is a fact that humans appeared relatively recently in the history of our world.

The facts are irrefutable.  They are written in the very bedrock of our planet.  They are there for everyone to see, everywhere: older species in strata below newer species.  Never an exception.  No human jawbones have ever been found in a Tyrannosaurus nest. No dinosaurs after 65 million years ago. No Australopithecenes after about 2 million years ago.  No homo sapiens before about 500,000 years ago. None.  Anywhere.

Now, while you can certainly take a religious position on the explanation of evolution, you cannot take a religious position on the existence of evolution.  In other words, you can certainly disagree with the leading scientific Theory of Evolution, which explains how such facts as we observe everywhere in the world came to be (and does so quite nicely, thank you very much), but you can only disagree with the facts of Evolution to the same extent that you can disagree with the fact that the sun is at the center of the solar system, or that Pasteurization helps preserve foods, or that DNA codes genetic information for all species on earth.

We need to remember that, as Stephen Jay Gould said, there’s a difference between a fact and a theory, and Evolution is both:

Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world’s data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein’s theory of gravitation replaced Newton’s, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin’s proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered.

If you’re planning on rejecting the Theory of Evolution, you know, the scientific mechanism that Darwin proposed almost a century and a half ago, you have to follow the rules.  The rules are simple.  Come up with a better explanation for the Fact of Evolution.  Just make sure it doesn’t require anything beyond what we can expect from our normal, natural, very nonmagical world.

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60 thoughts on “Gallup Survey: Most Republicans Reject Theory Of Evolution

  1. Zilch, was the beer 36C, or the weather?

    Even a crazy expatriate American in Austria doesn’t drink 36 C beer- it’s the weather, a warm front straight from the Sahara.  And Webs- ask elwed if Austria and Germany are the same thing.  You might get a long answer…

    The beer was cool but not cold- close to English serving temperature.

  2. And Webs- ask elwed if Austria and Germany are the same thing.  You might get a long answer…

    raspberry I was making fun of myself and American’s overall lack of knowledge of the world outside of the US.  Don’t worry I know that other countries besides Germany speak German.  wink

    I was in Scotland a few years back and they serve their beer warm.  I was used to cold beer and like it cold very much.  But I was young and dead set on the idea that I would do as they do.  After awhile I kinda liked room temperature beer.  It was just the memory of that, and when I saw 90f, I kinda jumped to conclusions.

    And yes we have all significantly drifted this thread… but really who cares?

  3. Trolls.

    Mark Thomas, Left wing London comic protested about lack of Trolls under Hungerford Bridge- the reasons for doing so will be found in this YouTube of his Radio show (the one mentioned in the 1st link) in Part one and part 2.  It is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. And its on the BBC- what some yanks sneer at as ‘State controlled broadcasting’. Proving our state control is more free than, say, the Freedom loving ‘Fox’ network.

    Beer. Proper British beer (a.k.a. Ale) should be served at room temperature, like red wine.  However that rule is from before central heating, so strictly speaking it should be a couple of degrees lower. Sometimes you have to let the beer warm up, so the cold doesn’t mask the taste.

  4. zilch said:As I’ve said before, consi’s attitude about homosexuality seems to be “what can’t be cured must be abjured”.

    Emphasis on seems there.


    Not sure about the relevance of Consi’s observations.  He seems to have a talent for deliberately missing the point in favor of some minutia.

    The devil is in the fine print. Minutia is important.

  5. Minutia is important.

    While this is sometimes true, minutia oft takes us afield. 

    Hey Zilch – thanks for the Republican War On Science link.  I had heard about this, but never got around to reading it.  I was just able to score a used copy for only $3.99 at Amazon.

  6. LH, Thanks for Parts 1, 2 and 3.
    I rather enjoy laughing.

    He’s well known to police and politicos for his stunts.  He had a couple of series on TV a few years back, sort of in the same vein as Michael Moore, only more rip the piss.  The one that sticks in my mind is when he was looking into the US use of listening posts in the UK, and the spying that is done on out phone calls. There is a site which intercepts everything (not just suspects)- and this is pre 9/11.

    Looking at a map, trying to work out the stunt, a mate (a pilot) pointed out the yanks had forgotten to make it a no fly zone over it. So he hired a hot air balloon, and while floating gently over the base made a phone call to his mum, making sure he dropped key phrases into the conversation.  Funnily, here he is with loads of armed police following him waiting for him to come down, and who is he scared of? His mum (who must have mistook the whoosh of the burner for him drawing on a fag), because he started going ‘no mum, I’m not smoking’.

    The cruxifiction is just a drinking story- went out Friday, got slaughtered, woke up 3 days later.

    The protest one I ran a cable from the speaker output to the mic in, and recorded from the listen again facility the BBC do for 7 days after a broadcast.

    Whats going on with your nutter of a PM? Banning booze and Porn, but only for Abbos in the Northern Territories! I heard about the child abuse case, but I bet he doesn’t hit white men with this.

  7. The crucifixion[I changed it] is just a drinking story- went out Friday, got slaughtered, woke up 3 days later.

    Love the concept.

    but only for Abos in the Northern Territories! I heard about the child abuse case, but I bet he doesn’t hit white men with this.

    I can’t elaborate on the story much too much but I’ll see what I know and can remember.
    Noel  Pearson (appearing at the 5:00 & 7:00 minute marks), Aboriginal, Lawyer, and now respected elder up at (Cape York peninsular) has been trying to figure out how best to help ‘his people’.
    The current situation is that Abos get welfare which is spent on grog (any alcoholic substance from Beer to Goonies – flagons of plonk) which as a race (apparently) they can’t handle as well as whites.
    This then causes domestic violence, child abuse, and kids not going to school and house (if they have one) wreckage.

    I have problems when I agree with PM Johnny but I make allowances that he agrees with Noel Pearson.
    Noel is one of those charismatic blokes (I can’t think of too many – an ex-PM Paul Keating comes to mind – Noel doesn’t do vicious attacks though) I love listening to. His free flow words with no ums and ahs is a nice thing to hear.
    Noel is at odds though with most other Aboriginal ‘leaders’ as they think what he’s proposing smacks of racism which it does I suppose but Noel doesn’t give a shit how it appears; all he cares about are the result he’s sure he’ll get.
    When you consider Aboriginal Affairs had been something not far removed from Aboriginal Genocide, having had less than UN-success, I’m on Noel’s side.
    No one has brought up a better idea.
    His idea as I understand it is to dramatically reduce access to alcohol; and tie welfare payments to some sort of work scheme he has in mind attached to sending the kids to school with the welfare payment used as a carrot.
    Basically, no payment if kids don’t attend school.
    The way I see it is that if the kids are going to school the parents need to be sober enough to enforce it; if they’re sober enough to enforce it then other benefits will/may came.

    Oh and the porn bit? Apparently Aboriginal children are re-enacting porn scenes after watching porn with drunk parents or … you can guess the alternatives.
    Of course not all are like this – just enough to make it onto Noel’s radar.
    The other thing I like about him is he doesn’t pull punches as much as politicians.

    That’s about all I know.

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