Don’t shake it more than twice!

Iran’s Supreme Leader: Don’t masturbate during Ramadan

On his blog, Sayyid Ali Khameini offers advice to the faithful about appropriate conduct during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

    Q: “If somebody masturbates during the month of Ramadan, but without any discharge, is his fasting invalidated?”

    A: Iranian Supreme Leader: “If he do not intend masturbation and discharging semen and nothing is discharged, his fasting is correct even though he has done a ḥarām (forbidden) act.

    But, if he intends masturbation or he knows that he usually discharges semen by this process and semen really comes out, it is a ḥaram – intentionally breaking fasting.”

Meanwhile, Joe asks;

    The Ramadan fast is only from sunrise to sunset. Does this mean it’s OK after dark?

We are anxiously awaiting a reply, not only to the question of doing it in the dark but also the part about “intent!” ……… Allan

13 thoughts on “Don’t shake it more than twice!

  1. Ramadan, and much is Islam, is about a communal and personal jihad against animalistic/physical urges.  Eating, smoking, drinking, jacking-off, etc. are all about fulfilling physical desires.  Ramadan (like many fasting-traditions Semite cultures) is about learning to deny these urges in the context of a communal struggle (jihad).

    I think denying these urges for a period is a good excercise for any wise human.

    rob@egoz.org

  2. This might help clear things up:
    http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/questions/1224.html

    Masturbation is Haraam (unlawful).

    This is the ruling of the four Madhaahibs viz. Maliki, Shafée, Hanafee and
    one riwaayah (narration) from Imaam Hanbalee. They have drawn their
    conclusions from the following proofs:

    So, it sure don’t matter when the sun is up, or down, or whether it’s Ramadan, or not. ;-]  That said, the issue of mastrubation is fairly non-sequitor to the whole event, given it’s forbidden status.  It’s curious why a mullah would think it necessary to elucidate this fact to the umma.  Sounds like Western gibberish/misreading, imo.

    rob@egoz.org

  3. So, how can you masturbate “without intent”? ? ? Let me count the ways: Tight underwear? Someone else masturbating you while you sleep? That’s all I can think of. Any more suggestions?

  4. So, how can you masturbate “without intent”?

    In the same way one can murder without intent, or flatter/insult someone without an intent.  This notion of “intent” is hardly new to law.  Intent, actually, is a *huge* factor in most legal systems, such as Shariah.  And, if i remember correctly, many consider it a hallmark of an advanced social code.

    For example, children (and animals) jack-off all the time.  But, doing so doesn’t mean they understand what they are doing.

    rob@egoz.org

  5. Between Melbourne and Adelaide about 40 years ago there was a 1/2 hour stretch of corrugated black top Mrs SEB woulda died for.
    It’s only now I realise why the girl with me in my Beetle looked forward to returning to Melbourne on it.
    Some dots take a lo-o-o-o-ng time to join.  wink

  6. Oh man, I just Googled masturbating Muslim and it is a hoot.  Look at the bullshit some people toil with:

    Q:

    As-Salamu`alaykum! I recently got married, but I am in a different town right now, away from my wife because of her job and my studies. As I get sexually frustrated, is masturbation allowed in my case? I do not want to fall into the abyss of sin, but I also want to relieve my sexual tension. Please let me know if masturbation is allowed in Islam. Is there any Islamic cure so that a Muslim could get rid of such a bad habit?

    A:

    …….. it is reported that Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal regarded semen as an excretion of the body like other excrete, and permitted its expulsion the same way blood letting is permitted. Ibn Hazm holds the same view. However, the Hanbali jurists permit masturbation only under two conditions: first, the fear of committing fornication or adultery, and second, not having the means to marry………if you find that you cannot relieve yourself except through masturbation, and you fear you may lapse in adultery if you do not masturbate, then the juristic rule which states that the lesser evil is to be suffered in order to fend off the major one applies to you, as masturbation is deemed to be the lesser of two evils in this case

    Wow, and I thought my life was complicated.  Well I’m going to jerk off now, guilt free mind you.

    Craig

  7. Obviously Muslims take a more realistic view of masturbation than the Holy Roman Catholic Church who say: Stop it or you’ll go blind. LOL
    I wonder if there many blind men (or women – nah – they’ve been surgically modified) with in the Muslim Kultcha?

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