Why the GM Marketing Team Should go to Hell Without Passing go…

GM recently reminded me why I don’t watch TV.  I was eating dinner with my girlfriend and watching Iron Chef America, when a GM commercial came on.  It starts out with two guys in a grocery store at a checkout counter.  One guy has an assortment of what appears to be healthy foods and a box of tofu that is ever so carefully shown to the audience in plain view.  The healthy eater seems embarrassed with his purchase as he looks behind him at the other guy who is getting a bunch of meat.  He then rushes through the checkout process and rushes through the parking lot and gets into his Hummer, with a big fat grin on his face.  The words then appear at the bottom of the screen, “Hummer: Restore your manhood.” 

My jaw dropped and I looked at my girlfriend.  We were both pretty much taken back by this display of filth.  I couldn’t believe it.  How could GM step to an all time low like this?  Not only are they portraying their crappy, not to mention ugly, contraption of a vehicle, the Hummer, as some kind of manly device, but they are also suggesting that people that eat healthy, like myself, are somehow lesser men.  Why don’t they just come out and say it, “Drive a Hummer, don’t be a fag.”  It’s pretty insulting.  If GM wants to make a profit on their crappy cars here is an idea: Stop making gas hogs that people don’t need that destroy the environment and further portray the image of an SUV driver as a cool, hip, “manly” person when in all actuality, anyone that wastes money on them, especially the Hummer, is a fucking moron.

[Editors Note: I don’t necessarily agree that everyone who drives an SUV is a moron, but I do have to admit that this sounds like a pretty insulting commercial. It does make you wonder what kind of crack GM’s marketing department is smoking these days.]

78 thoughts on “Why the GM Marketing Team Should go to Hell Without Passing go…

  1. You missed the punchline of that commercial.  They actually feel the need to tell you that it gets 20 mpg. smile

    Ooooo…  Restore your manhood, wreck the environment and use more gasoline.  How can you turn down a deal like that?

  2. OMG, I didn’t see that one, but I saw one that I am adding to my huge “List O’ Rants”… A woman is at the playground with her kid waiting to go on the slide. Another woman comes over and cuts her kid in front of them. When the first woman complains that she was next, the second one says, “Not anymore.” Then, the first woman goes out and buys a Hummer, and the implication is that she’s no longer such a wimp. “Restore Your Womanhood” or some such thing is the tag line.

  3. Hummer: Restore your manhood.

    They’re obviously not targeting women.  smile
    When you’re down at the bottom of the barrel, all that’s left to do, is scrap it.

  4. I suspect the ad is driven (so to speak) toward the only sort of folks likely to buy the damned things: folks worried about their manhood (or, more importantly, how their manhood is perceived).

  5. I found it mildly amusing that they had the gall to say something many of us like to imply about SUV owners.  No pretense whatsoever.

    swordsbane, 20mpg is pretty good for a vehicle you can offroad (depending on how close it really gets).  A Jeep Wrangler is rated for 18mpg highway, and as my cousin can tell you, you’d be lucky to get even that unless you stay at about 55-60mph.  Sure it’s still lower than the city rating on my car, but I drive a compact car that’s rated for 22/28mpg, so I can’t criticize inefficiency too much (though I sure can light up my front tires at will cheese)

  6. Glad someone wrote about those commercials.  They were like the Burger King “Manthem” commercial, only without being funny or clever.

    I’d be very surprised if the Hummer actually got 20mpg in town.  It sounds like they nursed it through the tests.

    I saw both commercials.  The slogans were “Reclaim your manhood” and “Get your girl on”, which I found very funny because apparently the way to get your girl on is to act like you have too much testosterone.

    Here’s a slogan for them: “Act like a total jerk while trashing the environment!”  It amounts to the same thing.

  7. I’ve seen both commercials and they are really, really stupid.  But I really didn’t get the one with the women.  Somebody being rude to my kid at the playground is supposed to make me want a hummer?  Really, when stuff like that happens I just tell the other mother off (very politely) and try to give my kids a lesson on how not to act.  I don’t go out and buy a giant, ugly car.

    In fact, I’m looking forward to when we’ll be able to afford to trade in the Pathfinder and get a much more fuel efficient Volvo wagon or something similar (hopefully next year—fingers crossed).  I want a Civic hybrid, but I don’t think we could afford that.

  8. Some additional thoughts:

    in all actuality, anyone that wastes money on them, especially the Hummer, is a fucking moron.

    [Editors Note: I don’t necessarily agree that everyone who drives an SUV is a moron…

    Actually, we’re all a little moronic in places.  A wise person once told me; “people have their defenses because they need them” and marketers can play upon those areas of insecurity.  Witness the success of Viagra spam – those messages wouldn’t be there if no one ever clicked on them.  Or for that matter, the campaign success of the entire Republican party.  Bush is our ‘Hummer’ in the White House, reassuring us that we really are manly despite our doubts.

    Of course, advertisers can appeal to our higher nature as well, which is why we don’t have a Democrat in the White House.  As Robert Heinlein once said, “Never appeal to the other man’s better nature.  He may not have one.”

    By the way, Webs, I wouldn’t worry about anyone saying you’re less manly for eating healthy.  After a couple decades of artery-clogging ribs and steaks, versus your tofu and vegetables (and bicycling instead of driving an SUV), and you’ll have the last laugh in the manliness department.

    BTW the thing that cracks me up about SUV’s is that most of the people driving them have no idea how.  I actually learned how to drive off-road and only then went on-road, but I see SUV’s everywhere that have never gotten dusty, let alone muddy.  I can’t help chuckling when I see someone driving a Jeep slow down to a crawl to cross railroad tracks.  LOL

  9. Anything with a 5 cylinder engine is NOT a manly vehicle!

    You want to restore your manhood? Go get an H1 Alpha.

  10. Some additional thoughts: in all actuality, anyone that wastes money on them, especially the Hummer, is a fucking moron.
    [Editors Note: I don’t necessarily agree that everyone who drives an SUV is a moron…

    Actually what I meant is, anyone living in the burbs that drives an SUV is a moron.  People that really need the off-road capabilities such as farmers, and those that live in remote places, are being intelligent when they buy an SUV or a truck.  But the majority of people that buy SUV’s and trucks today are just morons worried about their image or penis size.

  11. Webs, as others have pointed out, you were never in the market for a Hummer anyway.  By offending you, GM is not likely to lose a Hummer sale.  Personally, I wouldn’t buy a GM car because I think they’re junk heaps.  That’s a much better reason than any advertisement.

    However, I must take issue with this:

    Webs: One guy has an assortment of what appears to be healthy foods and a box of tofu that is ever so carefully shown to the audience in plain view.  The healthy eater seems embarrassed with his purchase as he looks behind him at the other guy who is getting a bunch of meat…

    …they are suggesting that people that eat healthy, like myself, are somehow lesser men.

    At the risk of veering off-topic, I should point out that tofu is about as far from “eating healthy” as you can get.  All soy-based foods are poisonous to one degree or another, but tofu is the worst of the bunch.

    Soy plants produce chemicals called Phytoestrogens, which mimic estrogen in mammals.  They do this as a defense mechanism: The soy plants are trying to sterilize predator animals.

    Eating tofu causes your brain to shrink and leads to Alzheimers

    In a major ongoing study involving 3,734 elderly Japanese-American men, those who ate the most tofu during midlife had up to 2.4 times the risk of later developing Alzheimer’s disease. As part of the three-decade long Honolulu-Asia Aging Study, 27 foods and drinks were correlated with participants’ health. Men who consumed tofu at least twice weekly had more cognitive impairment, compared with those who rarely or never ate the soybean curd. [1,2]

    “The test results were about equivalent to what they would have been if they were five years older,” said lead researcher Dr. Lon R. White from the Hawaii Center for Health Research. For the guys who ate no tofu, however, they tested as though they were five years younger.

    What’s more, higher midlife tofu consumption was also associated with low brain weight. Brain atrophy was assessed in 574 men using MRI results and in 290 men using autopsy information. Shrinkage occurs naturally with age, but for the men who had consumed more tofu, White said “their brains seemed to be showing an exaggeration of the usual patterns we see in aging.”

    Soy infant formula is a dangerous steroidal contraceptive

    The most serious problem with soy may be its use in infant formulas. “The amount of phytoestrogens that are in a day’s worth of soy infant formula equals 5 birth control pills,” says Mary G. Enig, Ph.D., president of the Maryland Nutritionists Association. She and other nutrition experts believe that infant exposure to high amounts of phytoestrogens is associated with early puberty in girls and retarded physical maturation in boys. [3]

    A study reported in the British medical journal Lancet found that the “daily exposure of infants to isoflavones in soy infant-formulas is 6-11 fold higher on a bodyweight basis than the dose that has hormonal effects in adults consuming soy foods.” (A dose, equivalent to two glasses of soy milk per day, that was enough to change menstrual patterns in women. [4]) In the blood of infants tested, concentrations of isoflavones were 13000-22000 times higher than natural estrogen concentrations in early life. [5]

    1. White LR, Petrovich H, Ross GW, Masaki KH, Association of mid-life consumption of tofu with late life cognitive impairment and dementia: the Honolulu-Asia Aging Study. Fifth International Conference on Alzheimer’s Disease, #487, 27 July 1996, Osaka, Japan.
    2. White LR, Petrovitch H, Ross GW, Masaki KH, Hardman J, Nelson J, Davis D, Markesbery W, Brain aging and midlife tofu consumption. J Am Coll Nutr 2000 Apr;19(2):242-55.
    3. Soy Infant Formula Could Be Harmful to Infants: Groups Want it Pulled. Nutrition Week, Dec 10, 1999;29(46):1-2.
    4. Cassidy A, Bingham S, Setchell KD, Biological effects of a diet of soy protein rich in isoflavones on the menstrual cycle of premenopausal women. Am J Clin Nutr 1994 Sep;60(3):333-40.
    5. Setchell KD, Zimmer-Nechemias L, Cai J, Heubi JE, Exposure of infants to phyto-oestrogens from soy-based infant formula. Lancet 1997 Jul 5;350(9070):23-27.

  12. Webs – that’s what I meant by we’re all a little moronic in places.  Using an SUV for commuting and complaining about gas prices is counterrational, yet the same person may be very intelligent in other areas.  I still don’t have a good word for this phenomenon, but it affects us all.

    Consi – I also thought the BK commercial was hilarious, much more clever than the Hummer commercial.  So I wrote a post about it and wow!  Lots of people like to talk about commercials.  One of them concluded, from the fact that I liked the commercial, “My money says you’re a guy. And if you’re a woman, you embarass me.”  By far one of the funniest things anyone has said to me. 

    My other top-commented post was about tomatoes.  Oh well.

    Daryl –  LOL Now I have an excuse not to eat the horrible stuff.  But all you kiddies out there who shouldn’t be reading a blog with bad words in it, you should still eat your vegetables!  Unless they have pesticides on them.  Oh, forget it.  Just eat freezer waffles.  They’re the perfect food.

  13. Actually Daryl, you don’t have to preach to me I rarely eat the stuff, but I still eat many other healthy and organic foods, and the commercial, while clearly showing the tofu, was making a statement more against healthy eaters which is what offended me. 

    As far as your studies go, I agree that Soy products are not for everyone, but the last study I read on American beef stated that 1 out of every 4 Americans will likely have some form of food poison related to eating bad beef.  If you don’t believe this, just take a tour of a making packing facility, and look closely at the diet of the animals and how they live.  Scientists in the UK have stated over and over again, that the principle way Mad cow disease spreads is by the animal eating it’s own and other animals shit.  There solution to stopping Mad cow disease, stop feeding animals that are going to be slaughtered, shit.

    Consi –
    Now if GM was clever in how they poke fun at healthy eaters, I would probably just laugh and shrug my shoulders.  But there was nothing clever or funny about the commercial.  It is just a blanket statement.

  14. …those who ate the most tofu during midlife had up to 2.4 times the risk of later developing Alzheimer’s disease.

    That explains what is wrong with all those tofu lovin’, bean curd eatin’, yogurt suckin’, wheat grass drinkin’ fools.  tongue laugh

  15. The way I see this is the following.

    There are few people who actually have consistent utility for such vehicles. Sliding past the H2 (a horrible piece of trash), if you’re not one of those people and you feel like wasting the time and money on a vehicle like that, go right ahead. Makes me just a little richer when you do.

    But then to turn around and downplay my “walk and transit, healthy eating (soy milk is a treat)” lifestyle because I’m not dumb enough to waste my resources on that- now that’s stupid.

    I gotta wonder what’s going on in the department. Appeals to “classic” manhood had great success in the “Married with Children” TV series… but that was a long time ago, and many times more clever.

  16. There are several different Hummers now, but yes, they’re pretty good offroad vehicles so I’d have to say incompetent driver.  It is possible for any vehicle, no matter how heavy-duty, to get stuck with a sufficiently incompetent driver.

    Once in Washington state we resurrected an old Korean-war era Dodge Power-Wagon 4WD truck.  It had the alternate-scallop tires and was all beat up and looked terrible, but we got it running really well and decided to paint it.  6 guys with wetordry sandpaper and buckets of water (and a fair amount of beer for some) did a great job sanding and masking the truck.  Then we loaded up the DeVilbiss and shot it with grey primer, let it sit overnight and the shot it with two coats of BRIGHT green industrial machine enamel. Later we pulled the masking and thus was born “the green machine” and we were off 4-wheeling.

    On one occasion my sister (who is a concert violinist and quite the city girl) was persuaded to go with us, being my brother, his friend, my sister and me.  We topped a bunch of ridges and went up some steep hills while my sister did her best to appear not terrified.  Then we were heading down a really steep hill (steep enough that you can go up or down but not any variation of crossways) and got the front bumper stuck straight down in a creek.

    Now this is good clean fun if ever any existed.  We piled out and reconnoitered a bit, while my sister observed that we were many miles from help and cell phones weren’t due to be invented for a couple decades at least.

    We piled up rocks in front of the front wheels, and dug out the winch (which being mounted on the front bumper was just about submerged in mud and rocks).  I pulled the cable out about 100’ and hooked it on an old snag and with a glorious flailing of mud and dirt from all four tires and a little winch help, the green machine just about jumped out of that hole and sat itself proudly in the middle of that creek as if to say; “Hope in!  Let’s go!”

    And we did.  My sister never went 4-wheeling with us again for some reason though.  Seems to prefer a nice 4-door sedan.

    /offtopic

  17. but I see SUV’s everywhere that have never gotten dusty, let alone muddy.

    This is the crux of the 4×4 argument in the UK. I’m sick of hearing petrol heads whine ‘girly lefties, you don’t like cars’. No what I don’t like is a 5 ft woman who can hardly see over the steering wheel on the school run with Jonny in the family status symbol. Because they are so big they take up half the next parking space, the bull bars are actually more dangerous to pedestrians than just the bumper, and the person behind the wheel thinks he has every right to act like a git.  USE THE FUCKING INDICATORS.

    (Offtopic

    1 out of every 4 Americans will likely have some form of food poison related to eating bad beef.

    The EU tried to ban US beef because of the growth hormones that it is pumped with, some of which appear to be hazadous to humans. Bush immediately whined ‘free trade’ while signing more protectionist bills)

  18. To understand the popularity of the hummer, one doesn’t have to look much further than media coverage of any US military involvement in the past couple decades. It has become a symbol of America’s “roll in the cavalry and git ‘er dun” foreign policy. People want a piece of that. It says “I don’t care what anyone else thinks, I’m gonna occupy as much pavement as I possibly can. Why? Because I can afford to.”
    I’ve always had a fantasy of ( after winning the lottery ) getting a real high-dollar SUV like a navigator or escalade, and absolutely trashing it in the rocks and mud, pulling stumps, hauling gravel in the leather seats, and such.
    Until then, I guess I will have to settle for my old f250 4×4.  LOL

  19. Yea no shit.  I always thought something was fucked up about the whole Columbine thing, when I read an article in Time that ended by the author saying, we may never really know what caused them to commit these actions…  And if you look back a couple pages, you find a Jock quoted as saying something to the effect, “We just wanted them to go away, no one liked them, we called them fags all the time.”  I distinctly remember the word fag being printed.  I couldn’t believe the author either wanted to not print the truth, or really was too stupid to know, but they were tormented till they broke. 

    I was a sophomore when the shooting happened, and at my school, those that were treated poorly, including myself knew the truth, which was scary, and those that were treating people poorly, thought the kids were just fucked up in the head.

  20. The kindest assessment you could make is that those kids were just fucked up in the head.  Millions of children have been mistreated by their peers and didn’t turn into killers.  It doesn’t excuse the mistreatment or jerk behavior by the jocks but there IS no excuse for going on a murder rampage. 

    Words to live by… literally.

  21. The kindest assessment you could make is that those kids were just fucked up in the head….there IS no excuse for going on a murder rampage.

    Wow.  It defies my simpleton standards to believe that this even had to be said.

  22. I couldn’t agree with you more.  What I was merely implying was that the action taken by the jocks and other peers at the school set off their behavior.  Were they fucked up?  Of course, it doesn’t take a genius to figure that one out.  But just because you’re fucked up in the head, doesn’t mean you’re going to go on a murderous rampage.  Would they have committed those crimes, had they been treated differently?  I guess there is no way to know for sure.

  23. Webs, the jock quote you were referring to can be found in the last paragraph of page 50 in a Time Magazine article titled The Columbine Tapes, which appeared in the December 20, 1999 issue.

    Let’s take a look at the complete quote from one of Columbine’s shining stars:

    Evan Todd, the 255-lb. defensive lineman who was wounded in the library, describes the climate this way: ‘Columbine is a clean, good place except for those rejects,’ Todd says of Klebold and Harris and their friends.  ‘Most kids didn’t want them there.  They were into witchcraft.  They were into voodoo dolls.  Sure, we teased them.  But what do you expect with kids who come to school with weird hairdos and horns on their hats?  It’s not just the jocks; the whole school’s disgusted with them.  They’re a bunch of homos. grabbing each other’s private parts.  If you want to get rid of someone, usually you tease ‘em.  So the whole school would call them homos, and when they did something sick, we’d tell them, ‘You’re sick and that’s wrong.’’”

    Evan Todd is now presenting himself as some sort of hero.  What a sensitive and caring individual.

  24. Weapon of Mass Disturbance, you rock!!!  Thanks for the whole quote, it really sends the message home harder than what I said.

  25. I read that report a while back.

    I’m no angel, I’ve been down that path and planned it down to which one of my friends I was going to use as a human shield when the shooting started, provided I could incapacitate or restrain them proper.

    It can’t be attributed to a single cause, any of it. Using “fucked in the head” can’t be an acceptable form of dismissal either – I was straight and narrow for my first couple years in school. I didn’t just “become” headfucked. By the time I was at the end of fifth grade, I had an abusive stepfather who was threatening to kill me, a mother who was in denial, no friends, and of course, everyone teased me because they thought that would make me “go away”. The whole damn mess stinks of intolerance on either side… and when you’re a kid, it’s easy to form simple black and white views of things such as “right” and “wrong”. I find it far more alarming that the kids needed to strike out at something they percieved as a threat to their welfare.

    My school was a fair bit like columbine.. but we didn’t let felons or anyone of particularly unsavory character in our school to begin with. It would have been political disaster unless it was kept quiet, lock-and-seal. Columbine’s admin didn’t seem to care.

  26. The problem at columbine is that you can’t point at any one thing (or indeed any three or four things) and say “That’s what did it.”  because everytime you do, there’s someone out there that says “Well, those things happen at my school/to me/to a friend of mine and we didn’t have kids with guns killing people here.”  And they’re probably right.

    Kids like Evan are a dime a dozen.  They were in my school.  They’re probably in every school across the country, and probably so were most of the other things everyone says influenced those kids to do what they did, yet we don’t have mass shootings all across the country.  What stands out as the big thing missing from Columbine, and what ultimately caused the shootings (in as much as any one thing can cause something like that) was simply the awareness of the parents and administration about what was going on at their school.  Nothing fuels potential violence in kids (and adults) like reinforcing the perception that no one gives a damn about you.

    The tragedy of Columbine is not that it’s an indication we are becoming a violent society.  What happens at a highschool rarely has anything to do with real life.  It’s that with very little effort, it probably could have been avoided.

  27. Webbs: … those that were treated poorly, including myself knew the truth, which was scary, and those that were treating people poorly, thought the kids were just fucked up in the head.

    We used to have a beach shack at Sisters Beach whilst I was at school in the 60s – probably 100 Summer residents – no electricity or TV.
    There was a gang of us – I was always on the outer.
    One day (I was 14 or 15) ‘it’ was arranged that we do some boxing – we paired up – I didn’t want to play – they pushed – I lost it and had one of the blokes on his back with my hands round his throat – three blokes pulled me off. Bob survived. He’s a psychologist in WA now.
    I never had any more trouble. I was/am a crazy fucker.
    I was/am a pacifist … till pushed.
    At school, I took it from ‘Moose’ and his hangers on, for what seemed like a coupla years.
    They couldn’ta pushed me too hard or I woulda flipped into psychopath mode.
    I was an arrogant, swimming champion for 5 years running, prick and a loner in my own aloof arsehole crazy-fucker way. I hung around in my own clique (by myself) except for chicks … I loved them and … ha ha Miss Denehy – my art teacher. Memories … smile
    Some months after I left school at 18, I went to a party, gotta bit pissed (drunk), got in my car to leave and Moose was in front of the car – I gunned it, he jumped and I missed the bastard.
    In retrospect, I’m glad I missed. smile
    Also in retrospect, I think my madness saved me a lot of grief from bullying.
    There are NO consequences within madness. LOL
    Mmm. Will I post this? Yeah – fuck it! LOL

  28. It is an almost universal tendency to think of cause and effect in linear terms.  In reality, cause and effect is probabilistic.  And I have a familiar example:

    It is common to be told that if you drink and drive, you’ll crash into something, possibly killing or injuring people in the process.  I know from experience that this isn’t even remotely true.  Between graduating high school in 1978 and enlisting in the army 6 years later, I operated a motor vehicle while intoxicated beyond the legal limit at least 1200 times.  And I never crashed into anything.  And all of my drunken buddies did the same thing.  I don’t make this statement as a defense of drunk driving.  It is merely a demonstration of the mathematics involved in cause and effect.  Several million Americans get drunk and then drive their cars every day.  A tiny percentage of them crash into something and the resulting carnage is rightfully blamed on alcohol.

    Alcohol doesn’t make you crash.  It simply increases the probability that you will.  It is illegal because our legislature considers that increase in probability to be unacceptable to public safety and the argument I made above regarding my personal experiences with drunk driving do, and should fall on deaf ears.  The same mathematical relationship exists between childhood cruelty and the tendency to become a serial killer, school shooter, arsonist, or other antisocial character.  Swordsbane is technically correct when he points out that bullies are everywhere yet mass murder is relatively unusual.

    The problem of drunk driving began to be taken seriously when insurance companies and lawmakers made the connection between drunk driving and the resulting damage caused by a tiny percentage of its practitioners.  The problem of childhood cruelty will follow a similar path.  When enough people fear the lethal behavior of a tiny percentage of its victims, or when enough people who really matter begin to lose lots of money, then you’ll see our laws and our culture become very intolerant of child abuse at home and bullying by peers.

    In my weblog, I make the argument that domestic terrorism may actually be necessary in order to stimulate much needed changes in the way our society handles its problems.  Those who fear change find that a bit disturbing.

  29. In my weblog, I make the argument that domestic terrorism may actually be necessary in order to stimulate much needed changes in the way our society handles its problems.  Those who fear change find that a bit disturbing.

    I don’t find that disturbing.  I find it completely whacked to say it outloud.  It’s not that I think you’re wrong, but technically condoning something is asking for it’s frequency to skyrocket.  After all, the herd mentality will tell you 9 out of 10 times that if a little of something is okay, then a lot must be fine too.  They’re wrong, but that doesn’t stop them.  Terrorism is impossible to stamp out completely, because there will always be whacko’s dissatisfied with the powers that be, and whether necessary or not, it is a really really really BAD IDEA to hint at all that it might possibly be acceptable under certain circumstances.  In the meantime, we have to make every effort to fight it, and that means trying NOT to give anyone a reason to think it is actually HELPING society.  They already have plenty of twisted reasons.  Let’s not give them a rational one, and if by some miracle we DO stamp it out, if we’ve gotten society THAT stable, I’m sure we can come up with something that works as good and isn’t so hard on buildings and people.

  30. In my weblog, I make the argument that domestic terrorism may actually be necessary in order to stimulate much needed changes in the way our society handles its problems. Those who fear change find that a bit disturbing.

    Terrorism is impossible to stamp out completely, because there will always be whacko’s dissatisfied with the powers that be, and whether necessary or not, it is a really really really BAD IDEA to hint at all that it might possibly be acceptable under certain circumstances.  In the meantime, we have to make every effort to fight it, and that means trying NOT to give anyone a reason to think it is actually HELPING society.

    Swordsbane, I think that means we’re already across his hypothetical line. The matter becomes, as always, how to predict, restrict, and control such circumstances.

    Fighting situations like this is sort of like fighting cancer raspberry. However, much as I prefer to leave humanity to their own devices (or secretly harbor some distaste for us, even), I have to agree – it’s a rather pointless thing to NOT fight. We don’t gain anything by not fighting it except having more reason to fight it.

  31. I think you both missed the point.

    Our society’s child rearing institutions, particularly family and the public school system have the better part of 20 years to turn infant members of an aggressive, predatory species into that most artificial of products: civilized, young adults.  If I can convince your teenaged or young adult offspring to seriously consider terrorism as a solution to their problems just by writing a book or a website, then what does that say about the role modeling of you and your community?

    I’m not trying to train new terrorists.  I’m simply using those who already exist in order to accomplish my real objective.  As stated in my weblog, I want my critics to loudly complain that I’m encouraging terrorism, then I want them to explain why I have such powers and why it’s so easy.

    I’d really like some loud-mouthed public figure to complain to the media about what I’m doing and then have to explain why I’m able to do it.

    I tried to coax Frank DeAngelis into the jaws of my trap but he wouldn’t bite.

  32. i found this site and resonated with the topic of the commercial.. interestingly enough they just played the commercial and for some reason at the end instead of saying “restore your manhood” it simply said ” restore the balance”. anyone know what balance they are talking about? oh they must be talking about the attributes of the male and female energies created by the polarity of the sushumna, hey thats great that they are opening up to other things. i have a great idea for the smart car commercial when it comes out in 2 yrs. lets have a really big guy in the small smart car get bumped by a really small guy in a hummer and have the guy in the smart car drag the guy in the hummer into the street, break his collar bones and put his car into drive toward oncoming traffic. and in the end you can see the hummer driver handcuffed to the hospital bed with lawyers all around him yelling. and it can simply say ” smart car”. yea i like that. oh and as the smart car drives away you see the bumper stick on the back that says “draft suv drivers”.  ok im done. night.

  33. One more thing.. Off topic on the topic of soy and tofu, plants produce chemicals that mimic estrogen and or block estrogen, andor block progesterone. The body of a human has receptors to both estrogen and progesterone. These receptors will respond not only to the body’s hormones, but also plant hormones. In general, phytoestrogens are thought to wash out of the body within several days in contrast to months or decades that the synthetic chemical xenoestrogens take to be excreted. Whole grains, fruits, seeds, beans and herbs all are know to have estrogen and/or progesterone activity. The most famous is soy. In general, any food that has been eaten by a culture or people group for centuries is probably all right to eat if the people group in question is relatively free from these estrogen related diseases.” http://www.fibrocystic.com/phyto.htm

    Soybeans contain plant forms of estrogen called phytoestrogens (the chemical name is isoflavones). Phytoestrogens have very weak estrogen-like activity but can also act like antiestrogens, reducing the effects of naturally-produced estrogen. This is one reason that soy might possibly be protective against the development of some types of breast cancer which are stimulated by estrogen.
    All you really have to do is look at general studies done on cultures, you will see cultures like Japan and east Asian areas which include more soy in daily dieting have little to no cases of cancer as western cultures do. Either way its a conscious step towards people being more like Li Ching-Yuen.
    Though I’d Share.

    http://www.wvclinic.com/news_events/newsletter_winter03.asp

  34. There was an ad in yesterday Chicago Tribune for the Hummer that described the H3 as “mid-sized”  hmmm

    Mid-sized?  Between what?  An SUV and a Semi?

  35. it’s an ad. please get over it. it’s not trying to win over people who wouldn’t even consider a Hummer in the first place. if you don’t like it, then obviously they’re not trying to talk to or sell to you. nor is it trying to change the world. all it’s trying to do is maintain, and if possible, increase the brand’s profile. and maybe poke a little fun amongst its target audience. take the recent Burger King ads for the Texas Double Whopper or Stacker sandwiches–-these all play to their intended audience: the guy who’ll let go and give in from time to time to his “manly

  36. Thanks for the link Pro Sellout, I liked that video very much.  I leave you with this, a comment from above:

    Now if GM was clever in how they poke fun at healthy eaters, I would probably just laugh and shrug my shoulders.  But there was nothing clever or funny about the commercial.  It is just a blanket statement.

  37. Webs: But there was nothing clever or funny about the commercial.

    I’ll bet the rednecks saw something funny in it though. wink
    I don’t like ads … what I really mean is that I dislike boringly bland and unimaginative ads.
    PS’s Honda ad was colourful and almost passive.
    It interested me enough to watch it a second time. smile
    A psychologist could really make something of those four sentences. LOL

  38. All I have to say is, guys who drive Hummers are NOT sexy for this girl. I’d fuck a tofu-eating hybrid-driver over a “macho” man any time of day, thank you very much.  smile

  39. Hey what’s the big deal, I don’t drive a hummer and I’M easy.
    I guess I don’t drive them, I just give them LOL

  40. Les:You hippie girls are so easy.

    Well, that’s what they say about us Earth girls.  LOL

    Elwed: Try ‘em with some crushed ice.

    I’ve heard that hot tea works wonders as well.  smile

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