“Dr.” Kent Hovind explains the dangers of Evolution.

I’ve written about “Dr.” Kent Hovind many times here at SEB to point out what a dishonest idiot he is, but sometimes there’s no better way to illustrate this than to provide you with a clear example. It seems he or one of his fans has been uploading quite a few of his seminars to Google Video and if you do a search for Kent Hovind you’ll find them easily. Below is one such example if you can stomach watching it. It’s an hour long smear campaign against the Theory of Evolution by “Dr.” Kent Hovind which you probably won’t need to watch all that much of to see what an idiot he is.

It opens with a young man with a military haircut sitting next to a small fluttering American flag talking about how some folks say that Evolution “is not a bad philosophy”—making for the first clue that these folks haven’t a friggin’ clue what they’re on about—followed immediately by the claim that it was “Hitler’s religion during the Third Reich.” It just goes downhill from there.

     
I think it’s important to see an example of the bullshit that people like “Dr.” Kent Hovind are trying to feed the True Believers™ so you have a better understanding of why our science education in this country is in such bad shape. If you’ve not seen it before then you’ll probably be stunned by it. It explains a lot of the idiocy that we sometimes get in the comments here at SEB.

86 thoughts on ““Dr.” Kent Hovind explains the dangers of Evolution.

  1. Disturbing doesn’t begin to describe this video. Especially when you realize there are millions of Americans who believe every word of it without question.

  2. What a moron!

    Disturbing doesn’t begin to describe this video. Especially when you realize there are millions of Americans who believe every word of it without question.

    No shit!  It’s frightening… and some of those delusional fucksticks are teaching our kids.  THAT is truly criminal.

  3. and some of those delusional fucksticks are teaching our kids.

    Speaking of which- my daughter Rozzle will be back in three weeks from a semester of public school in SF, and I will grill her about it.  Of course Northern California is notoriously liberal, so I doubt she’s been indoctrinated with anything like this appallingly simpleminded shit.  Not only that, but she’s staying with friends of ours, one of whom is a Darwinist ichthyologist, so I’m not worried.

  4. In the opening sequence, if “Eric” had replaced the word evolution with Christianity he would have had some good points.

  5. Anybody notice his startling physical resemblence to Timothy McVeigh?  Just an aside.

    How can people with such retarded intellectual capacities function enough to find their ass with both hands?

    Ah yes, marching proudly forward to the past.  We’re just fucked.

  6. Ah yes.  Nobody has ever done anything terrible in the name of religion.

  7. Ok, I got to Kip WhatsHisNuts on the video.  WTF?  All I can say is WOW!  He can’t even string together a conherant argument.  I mean, for an opener, you’re supposed to “grab” your audience’s attention and then run with your bullshit.  I was lost, confused, and then didn’t give a shit.  I shudder to think that people like him are convincing other less intelligent people out there that religion is the way (I’m guessing on this one since I didn’t, nay, CANT finish the video).  You know, its very sad really.  I however hold out hope that the ignorant will kill themselves over shit like this, while the more intelligent of us watch from the side lines.  It really IS all about survival of the fittest.

    Oh, and I was told to say I was a “newbie” here.  grin

  8. Cindi: Anybody notice his startling physical resemblance to Timothy McVeigh?

    Yeah. It’s the first thought I had.
    I watched the 1st half till 12.30 this morning; got up at 7.30 and I watched the 2nd half.
    Wow. Scary shit. Scary man.
    I thought he was a pretty clever spin-doctor. Taking a morsel of truth, or untruth, then by bending, twisting, stretching, lying, and taking things outa context through ignorance or design, he was able to make a meal from it all based on the premise that god exists and earth is the devil’s playground.
    How can ignorant people fight this man’s ‘logic’?
    Hallelujah indeed. oh oh

  9. LuckyJohn: Scary shit. Scary man.
    I thought he was a pretty clever spin-doctor.

    I think the most frightening thing about Hovind is the fact that his charisma practically oozes from his pores. The man really is a charmer, and I suspect that this helps greatly in his battle to win over minds and hearts.

  10. As a Gr. 12 Bio teacher I find this guy completely offensive. He actually spoke in my area last year and I was invited to go but declined rather quickly.  I am teaching evolution to my students right now and I’ve made it clear that I only teach theories that have scientific proof, not based in faith alone. I have yet to have any students (over 100 taught) that has given me any sort of challenge. Plus, not one parent has called to complain and I live in an area with a high Baptist percentage. I could rant for hours on this but I have to stop.

  11. I hate that we have to say someone is a Darwinist… Let’s just call them a realist.

    Sepharo, my ichthyologist friend Bruce would laugh if someone accused him of being a realist- he works for the EPA, after all… LOL

    I think the most frightening thing about Hovind is the fact that his charisma practically oozes from his pores.

    Charisma is a dangerous gift.  The two most charismatic people I’ve ever seen in person were Werner Erhard (anyone remember EST?) and Sun Myung Moon.  Absolute self-confidence, rulers of their universes.  I wonder how their charisma measures nowadays, now that they’ve been taken down a few notches…

    Plus, not one parent has called to complain and I live in an area with a high Baptist percentage.

    Welcome, Lochheed. Maybe Canadian Baptists are more openminded than their stateside brethren, or maybe you’re just a good teacher.  Or both.

  12. The man really is a charmer

    To my (English) ears his accent was really annoying.  That just wound me up more so when he started lying (Athiests hate everyone, they only care for themselves, isnt it funny someone wants to cobtradict the bible) I just lost my temper.  One day I may watch more than the first 5 minutes.  I doubt it.  The guy is a wanker.  I don’t know a bout Charisma- it seems more like get em while their young, cos the Creationist story is easier to sell, and hard to dislodge.

    Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggg

    I am annoyed that I have let this fatuous lying slime wind me up.

  13. LH: I am annoyed that I have let this fatuous lying slime wind me up.

    LOL

  14. So far I’ve managed to sit through precisely 1 hr 7 minutes and 4 seconds of the good “Dr.“‘s diatribe lmaoing with my coworkers at his willful ingnorance before I realised how much I’d love to sit in on a dinner with him, Jerry Falwell and Pat Roberts! It’d probably only take roughly 15 minutes before they were all writhing in the floor covered in Jesus’s 2nd coming….

  15. SH: That’s my response to him…

    Excellent article but, I’ve seen True Believers™ write on this site that Roman Catholics aren’t really xians.
    I’m not sure how they arrive at this conclusion but … I’m not sure how they reach many of their other conclusions either. confused

  16. LuckyJohn

    Having attended, and been temporarily brainwashed by True Believers myself for awhile in my youth, I can say that the arguement that Catholics are not true christians goes something along the following lines:

    1. They (Catholics) believe that the Pope’s decrees are equal to biblical truth (i.e. become canon).  This is clearly wrong as obviously only the bible is correct (god’s word).

    2. Catholics “worship” idols, and saints (by making prayers to both).  This is wrong since obviously the only entity you should make prayers to is god.

    3. Catholics (until recently I believe) believed that only a priest could administer absolution for sins, whereas the bible states that only a personal relationship with Jesus grants you absolution from sin, and no intermediary is necesary, or valid.

    There are a whole slew of other reasons for it, and when you break it down, it’s basically one denomination saying another is not good enough because they don’t eat meat of fridays or some other such crap.  Any denomination could use any equally valid (or invalid) arguements to claim that any other denomination is not of the “true” faith.  No doubt some fundamentalists believe that you can’t be a True Believer if you don’t use the good old 1611 King James Bible (I’m convinced that such people believe the ancient Hebrews all spoke middle english.)

    I no longer participate in any form of religion and am a full blown “soft” atheist (I don’t believe that god exists, but I am open to the possibility that a god could exist, but there has yet to be any evidence to show this).  I got out of the fundy scene after many, many scary things were said at the church I attended, and I realized that I really couldn’t believe the stuff I was pitching to others; there was just too much crazy, illogical stuff.  Just as with any issue, there are obviously more reasons for my lack of religion, but that’s the best summary of it.

  17. Buzz: There are a whole slew of other reasons for it, …

    Thanks.
    I now know even more STUFF about True Believers™ and how they … ummm, think, I think. wink

  18. funny how you all bash him because he bashes evolution.

    i dont understand how he gives meat to his argument though, and you just scream and whine like little kids how dumb he is, and think that he is in fact the dumb one…

    ppl do believe in strange things. i believe in what i know. i know God exists. and you can scream how stupid i am for that. but untill you actually get off your own soapbox and leave the sidewalk, and maybe let Him show Himself to you, you will just sound like the “ignorant person” he sounds like to you…

    think for yourself. ignore the trend of this forum and actually ask yourself, hey. maybe science isnt…science…

    i’ll go back to musing under the stars

  19. oh yah. and catholics are a little off the deep end in some areas…

    and that guy does have a bad hair cut.

  20. You’re just all afraid of the truth that is to be found in invisible friends whispering sweet nothings into your ear.

    “(God/Thor/The Easter Bunny) told me that everything is going to be ok!”

    “Um, cool.”

    “HEATHEN! BLASPHEMER! DIE DIE DIE!” (stabs)

    “Ow.”

    I love the religious condition. It’s so obviously different from the other reasons people do things.

  21. No doubt some fundamentalists believe that you can’t be a True Believer if you don’t use the good old 1611 King James Bible

    This is true.  Browsing for truth-deniers I found a site that not only said KJV was the only version, but the NIV was basically all wrong as it was written by a bunch of wooses trying to placate the nasty evil liberals.  (I ask again, how has liberal become a swear word.)

    and you just scream and whine like little kids how dumb he is, and think that he is in fact the dumb one…
    ppl do believe in strange things. i believe in what i know. i know God exists. and you can scream how stupid i am for that. but untill you actually get off your own soapbox and leave the sidewalk, and maybe let Him show Himself to you, you will just sound like the “ignorant person

  22. man you guys are ignorant as fuck… hovind is not and never will be an idiot… first off hovind taught science in public schools for 15 years… wow.. he fuckin collects science books for a hobby , and he has alot. les have you even seen any of his dvd’s ? until you do , you cant say much , i have seven of them , and they are all about three to four hours long… he does have scientific proof. regardless of what you say , he shows you in the videos. alot of proof. funny thing is , i am not a ‘’ bible thumper ‘’ as you may think , im really not very religious as you may think. as a matter a fact , im probably going to hell. i’m quite certain of it. many of the statements you have made are most untrue. he is not an idiot, and he does have the ‘‘proof’’ you are looking for. ask him for the videos and im sure he’d send you a copy of each video. and while you are at it , get all of ron wyatts videos also, take a look at ‘’ the ark’’ even more of the proof you are looking for. try not to be closed minded. shoot i dont think you could finish all the videos and still have the same thoughts. i bet you. thanks for reading this… im out.

    p.s. i have converted many people to the creationist theory, after watching the videos. all thanks to my friend jeramy baker. thanks jeramy! peace you dumb fucks…

  23. Versus One- you’re a creationist and you’re going to hell?  Man, your stick is short on both ends…

  24. sucks for me… i just hope i meet some really cool demons in hell… im just cant stop sinning… sex out of wedlock , smokin illegal drugs, swearing, all that shit man… i just dont have time to sorrect myself all day i guess … whatever.. well see if i can do it before ‘’ the rapture’’ but i doubt it… live fast die young eh’.

    but i gotta tell you the videos clowns all you ignorant fucks… it really eats at all the ‘’ atheists’’ turds i meet.

  25. and i never said i was a ‘‘creationist’’ , i just said i know evoloution is a bullshit theory. primordial soup huh thats where we came from … bullshit…

  26. Versus One writes…

    man you guys are ignorant as fuck… hovind is not and never will be an idiot…

    After having read a good number of his books with the outlandish claims he makes I’ll have to disagree with your assessment that he’s not an idiot. He most certainly is.

    first off hovind taught science in public schools for 15 years… wow.. he fuckin collects science books for a hobby , and he has alot.

    Two facts that prove absolutely nothing other than he managed to get a job as a science teacher—which is NOT the same thing as being a scientist—and he likes to read science books. Neither fact has anything to do with the truth of the claims he makes or whether or not he’s an idiot. I’ve known a couple of science teachers in my time that were idiots.

    les have you even seen any of his dvd’s ? until you do , you cant say much , i have seven of them , and they are all about three to four hours long…

    I’ve seen his DVDs and I’ve read several of his books so, yes, I can say quite a bit about the man. I’ve also looked into his credentials and learned that his degree is from an unaccredited Christian college and had nothing to do with Biology or science. His claim of having a doctorate is dubious at best considering the nature of the university that gave it to him.

    he does have scientific proof. regardless of what you say , he shows you in the videos. alot of proof.

    I’ve seen the videos and there’s not much in there I’d call proof of anything other than Hovind being mentally unbalanced. The claims he makes are ridiculous and he rarely cites his sources.

    funny thing is , i am not a ‘’ bible thumper ‘’ as you may think , im really not very religious as you may think. as a matter a fact , im probably going to hell. i’m quite certain of it.

    This is supposed to convince me Hovind isn’t a nutcase in what way?

    many of the statements you have made are most untrue. he is not an idiot, and he does have the ‘’proof’’ you are looking for. ask him for the videos and im sure he’d send you a copy of each video.

    Yes he is and no he doesn’t. I’ve watched the videos. I’ve read the books. He’s a moron.

    and while you are at it , get all of ron wyatts videos also, take a look at ‘’ the ark’’ even more of the proof you are looking for. try not to be closed minded. shoot i dont think you could finish all the videos and still have the same thoughts. i bet you. thanks for reading this… im out.

    I haven’t seen as many of Ron Wyatt’s videos as I have Hovinds, but I’m not impressed by the ones I have seen.

    Now here’s a question for you: How many books on Evolution written by actual scientists have you read? Have you devoted as much time to the people who are leading researchers into the Theory of Evolution as you’ve devoted to the Christian nutcases? Or are the nutcases your only source?

    I suspect the latter is true.

    p.s. i have converted many people to the creationist theory, after watching the videos. all thanks to my friend jeramy baker. thanks jeramy! peace you dumb fucks…

    If they’re on the same apparent intelligence level as yourself then that isn’t surprising at all.

    sucks for me… i just hope i meet some really cool demons in hell… im just cant stop sinning… sex out of wedlock , smokin illegal drugs, swearing, all that shit man… i just dont have time to sorrect myself all day i guess … whatever.. well see if i can do it before ‘’ the rapture’’ but i doubt it… live fast die young eh’.

    Hardly makes you a ringing endorsement for that way of life. Why bother becoming a Christian when it’s done so much for you?

    but i gotta tell you the videos clowns all you ignorant fucks… it really eats at all the ‘’ atheists’’ turds i meet.

    The irony of you calling us ignorant fucks is stunning. I think I just alarmed my coworkers with the guffaw I let loose over that.

    and i never said i was a ‘’creationist’’ , i just said i know evoloution is a bullshit theory. primordial soup huh thats where we came from … bullshit…

    If you don’t accept Evolution and you’re not a Creationist then what is your viewpoint?

    This should be amusinginteresting…

  27. I’m looking forward to the answer to the last question put to VO as well.

    VO, if you are going to wander into a forum not necessarily receptive to your particular form of wackiness, might I suggest that you identify each point you want to discuss, actually discuss the point with source citations for reference. 

    As best I can tell, your position is “Nunt-uh, Hovind was a teach and has a wicked big collection of books.”  But it could be “I was so stoned one night that a Hovind video made sense to me.” Neither are very persuasive.  No wonder Les was laughing his ass off at you.

  28. Versus One, your admissions of not being a devout Christian and not accepting Creationism make your feverish defenses of Kent Hovind very puzzling indeed.

  29. Holy crap, VERSUS ONE has used nearly every “argument from” I’m aware of in just a couple of comments? And you just know he thinks he’s made some air tight arguments.

    Seriously, can we get a few comments from semi- intelligent believers someday? It’s been like shooting hippos in bathtubs for so long now.

  30. VERSUS ONE, just up there you almost insist you’re not a creationist although further up you say you’ve converted many people over to creationism.
    Sorta doesn’t make a whole lotta sense to me, then again, I’m not nearly as smart as you are cos I’m only an atheist turd.
    Are you doing research into how easy it is to scam gullible people or something like that?
    Have you worked out a title for your thesis yet?
    When will you publish your results?
    I agree with you about Dr Hovind. His intelligence is on a different level than ours – I mean not just anyone can write such ‘interesting’ books … and the videos. Man, they just say it all, don’t they?

  31. its funny i got under the skin , of the ‘’ not so allmighty les ‘’ its really too bad for all of us the stupidity level of everyone in this forum… its weird to realize how no matter what you say , you ‘’ turds’’ are never gonna change… including me , maybe i will play for the ‘’ darkside ‘’ for awhile…. it may be worth it…. burning in a
    ‘’ fake hell ‘’ whoooo hoooo. see ya there.

  32. PLAYINGwithONE: … the stupidity level of everyone in this forum …

    Sounds very much like Envy and Jealousy to me. wink
    Hey Richard, want a job with sex and travel?
    Fuck-off!
    And, while you’re there please learn how to spell and punctuate.
    Having said that, it’s so bad and nicely inconsistent, that I reckon you’re faking it – you’d make a good woman.
    OB, S-Sadie, Mrss DoF and SEB – please excuse me for that expression.
    I could have said “you remind me, of me when I used to spin bullshit in an attempt to get a chick in the sack by telling her I loved her” but I didn’t want to sound shallow; I’d much rather sound like a chauvinistic misogynist. LOL

  33. Versus One writes…

    its funny i got under the skin , of the ‘’ not so allmighty les ‘’

    Don’t flatter yourself too much. You’ve not gotten under my skin—if anything you’ve amused me—and anyone who’s a regular here and has seen someone get under my skin already knows this.

    And who the hell says I’m almighty? I sure as hell don’t. Nor would I want to be.

    its really too bad for all of us the stupidity level of everyone in this forum… its weird to realize how no matter what you say , you ‘’ turds’’ are never gonna change…

    Given good reason to change I’d be more than willing to do so. Again, anyone who’s been around long enough (or read through the archives) can see where I’ve changed a number of times. I was once a True Believer and over time I changed to an Atheist.

    If I’m not changing my opinions to match yours it’s only because you’ve not presented a compelling enough argument. Here’s a hint: Pouting about how us “turds” won’t ever change isn’t going to advance your position much.

    oh…. and les , i never saiid i was a cristian… stop trying to slyly put those words in my mouth… what an ass.

    You implied as much in your comments. Clearly you at least accept that belief system as correct if you have resigned yourself to going to hell and think that Dr. Hovind is a scientific genius. Considering that there’s plenty of people who do call themselves Christians and still live life in the manner you claim to live it that’s good enough to get you in the club as far as I’m concerned.

  34. sex out of wedlock , smokin illegal drugs, swearing, all that shit man…

    Hey, that sound like me, VO! Boy, am I glad there’s no God to send me to Hell!

  35. No one like to be told that what they do or think is wrong because that would show that there is such a thing as morality. People cannot stomach things that expose their belief as failure and they will then turn away while scoffing at it. Psychology shows that these actions are part of a defence mechinism to sustaining ones moral. The same kind of action as one would give when they illegally run a red light at an intersetion while flipping you off for honking at them. If you Google search “dr. Hovind” you will see many sites using this same type of defense mechinism. It even shows up in wikipedia because the subjects definitions and explainations there are submitted by majority rank, and many people can’t stand to hear him, because they don’t want to know or feel that what they think could be wrong. After this post, many people would love to get personal and attack using name calling or generality comments about believers or

    bible thumpers while avoiding the facts.
    1. “Science” is not evolution and the belief structure for evolution is on the same line as religion, therefore remove the proven lies about it out of the tax funded schools and rather insert it into private funded schools just like you would with any other religion.
    2. You can believe what you want, just don’t force it to people as “truth” from a “theory”.

    Try google searching “dr. hovind” and go to the video section and watch his debates with evolution professors. Make your free choices after that or use your defense mechinism right now.

  36. Al: “Science” is not evolution and the belief structure for evolution is on the same line as religion,

    Not even close.
    Science is provable shit.
    Religion is faith shit.
    Miles apart.

  37. Okie dokie, Alexander- I’ve watched “Dr.” Hovind’s debates with evolution professors, and I’ve made my free choice:  Hovind doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and the professors do.

    You’re right about people scoffing at things they don’t want to think about.  We all want to believe that our own worldview is correct, and it takes courage to honestly face challenges to our beliefs.  However, sometimes people scoff at things, not because they don’t want to face them, but because they have faced them and they have seen through them, and seen that they are false.  Now, I don’t scoff at all beliefs I know are false- I don’t accost children in the street and say “Guess what- there’s no Tooth Fairy!  Buahaha!”  But when adults hold false ideas, and moreover try to get these false ideas into public schools, then scoffing (and legal challenges) are in order.

    This is the case with our scoffing at “Dr.” Hovind.  Now, if you’re predisposed to believe in the Bible, and don’t know much about evolution, you might well be impressed by Hovind- he’s a charismatic speaker, and pretty funny.  I bet he would be a nice guy to chat with at a barbecue.  But if you have taken the trouble to learn something about how science works, and examined the evidence for evolution, the conclusion is inescapable: evolution is a fact, and Hovind doesn’t know jack about it.

    Also- If you don’t want evolution taught in public schools because it is a “theory”, then you should insist that gravity not be taught either- it is also a “theory”.  But both evolution and gravity are facts as well as theories.  In science, “theory” doesn’t have the common folk meaning “unsubstantiated speculation”, but rather means “a structure of ideas that explains facts”.  Wikipedia has a nice article about the creation-evolution debate you might check out.  Cheers, zilch

  38. What cracks me up most about these Hovind defenders is the fact that they often exhibit the very psychological defense mechanisms they accuse others of employing against Hovind’s claims.

    I believe, if I recall from my college psychology courses years ago correctly, that’s known as “projection.”

  39. I believe what he says is true. if someone could sow me some solid facts for evolution. then i would believe it but as of right now there is more proof for creation.  Some one show me some proof please.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.