Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Hugo Chavez.

I’m really not sure what else to say about this so I’ll just quote the article itself.

Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.

“You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it,” Robertson said. “It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war … and I don’t think any oil shipments will stop.”

“We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability… we don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator,” he continued. “It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”

And people wonder why I consider fundamentalists a danger to the U.S.. Scary.

41 thoughts on “Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Hugo Chavez.

  1. What can one say about this. Being a good Christian is Robertson loving thy neighbour? What is wrong with being critical of Bush? I know of a lot of European and Canadian people who are critical of Bush, there was even a Canadian federal politician who called Bush a moron. So what, is it time to invade the neighbour to the north?
    Perhaps Robertson needs to look into the past and try to figure out how democratic US installed puppet governments typically are. Why doesn’t Robertson just petition his God through prayer and ask Him to take care of the situation?

  2. Satan Speaks

    FT. LAUDERDALE, Fla. – August 23 2005—Author and Gospel singer Bob Miller (http://www.bobmillerwrites.com), a registered Republican, said today, “Hold it America; let us carefully consider the latest suggestion by Pat Robertson, the leader of the moral majority and President Bush’s hotline to God, that American operatives assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

    “True, I’m a registered Republican and some of you will discount my opinion because of that; I can’t image why, but you do. Anyway, I kind of agree with Pat that when a person is a useless drain on tax dollars, we should consider assassinating them. You take me for instance; I’m a 100% service connected disabled Vietnam veteran. You just can’t be any more of a useless pain in the ass type than that. On second thought, there are those millions of tax dollars that we Republicans have been showering on Robertson and Falwell.

    “Now of course it would pain me something awful if President Chavez decided to cut an oil deal with Mr. Bush for the right to do a little assassinating on his own and we lost Pat’s voice forever. But in all honesty, Pat, if I could save a penny on the gallon for gas, I could make do without you. The only thing that would concern me would be if Mr. Bush would pass the savings on to the rest of us.

    “I hate to be the one to tell you this, Pat, since you think you know everything, but we Americans have been assassinating people for a long, long time now. And give this some thought: there are a lot of us Americans who have endured about all the hypocrisy and omnipotence we care to endure. Again, take me for instance. I’ve never liked you and consider you to be a useless drain on tax dollars.

  3. Those who should be assassinated have no problems deciding who else needs to be assassinated.

    With any luck, some nut will have misheard Robertson. The man’s a national shame!

    I do wish you, or whomever links them, would say more about how you/they feel about the stories, Bachalon. Dare to elaborate. That makes it much more interesting to read about the stories here.

  4. Odd—I really don’t recall Jesus telling his disciples that “taking out” Caesar, or sending “covert operatives” to “get rid of” the Sanhedrin, was the way to the Kingdom of God.

    I don’t necessarily mind a discussion of assassination as public policy, etc., but Pat really ought to step away from the pulpit—permanently—before he engages in such.

  5. This situation has been building up in the last few months.  Chavez recently kicked out the US DEA saying that they were spying on his government.  Chavez is a true socialist and seems to have garnered a huge populist following.  Socialism isn’t my cup o’ tea, but it sure beats the hell out of fascism.  Axis of Logic has a whole section devoted to Chavez called the “Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela”.  From what I have read, Chavez’s “sins”, according to the Administration, are that he is friendly to Cuba and refuses to be a bootlick to the US.  Coupled with decent reserves of petroleum, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear ol’ Bushie label him part of the “axle… er, axis of evil”.  There has been quite a bit of vitriol flying back and forth between the countries.  Knowing of the past covert operations of previous Admins and knowing that this Admin is the worst and most secretive in US history, I wouldn’t be amazed to learn that many of Chavez’s accusations are correct.

  6. I think this sets a dangerous precedent. If they feel they can do this to anyone who is unfriendly towards America, why not towards citizens?

    However, I realize that he’s not the first person to say that, but consider how large his audience is. There’s a chance that someone will take him seriously enough and attempt kill Chavez.

    He’s been given entirely too much free reign. I feel the same way about this proclamation as I do when my mother says “he/she ought to be killed.”

    It’s an ugly way of thinking.

    My $0.02

  7. I, personally, would like to thank Pat Robertson for his comments.

    I think the world would be a much better place, if terrorist would just admit what they are, and publicly be honest about their goals and intentions.

    We don’t want them to hide behind “we need a strong moral country” rhetoric..we need them to admit their desire to send people to kill those who disagree with them. Let us know who you are!

    Pat Robertson is a terrorist, no better or worse than the people who cut the heads off of prisoners in Iraq.

    Thanks, Pat, for letting us all know exactly where you stand!

  8. Ordinarily I’d day that “Let’s ban Halloween” Pat is being his usual whack self, but there’s a chance the Bush crowd might be using him to test-market its latest foreign policy ideas, trying to gauge the level of support for another foreign adventure.

  9. Gee, I was planning to comment that ol’ Pat Robertson has a point about assassination being preferable to a $200bn war – I’ve felt that way for years.  But after reading everyone else’s comments I realize that y’all would think I was crazy so I can’t say that, can I?

    Anyone here who’d be against assassinating Osama?  Hitler?  To head off destruction, death, and wars?

    Aww, what the hell – he’s right.  Go ahead, call me crazy.  But here’s the hitch; AS WITH ANY OTHER WAR, CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE TO DECLARE IT. 

    And as to assassinating Hugo Chavez for being a socialist, that’s ludicrous.  Hopefully enough members of Congress would refuse to go along with it.

  10. Chavez is more popular in South America than Bush is in North America.

    Someday Bush will be starring in The Surreal Life, and Chavez will probably still be a democratically-elected leader in Venezuela.

  11. DOF,

    The problem with assassinations are that they make martyrs and often act to make a difficult problem even more intractable.  For example, consider the history of the Israeli/Palestinean conflict.  I’m sure the Israelis were thinking along the same lines you were when they assassinated various Hamas leaders.  However, that never led to the quick end of any conflict, it only made the Palestineans more angry.

    While I do think people like Hitler and Osama bin Laden are blights upon this Earth.  Killing them would only embolden and further enrage their followers.  Murdering people doesn’t work in terms of killing movements, it only gives the movement a symbol to rally behind.

    -Socialist Swine

    P.S.  It’s also just wrong in a more fundamental moral level.

  12. While I’m apt to agree on some level with Robertson, I fail to see how any of this is his fucking business to comment on in the first place.

    This is yet another example of the problems that arise when religious pontiffs dabble in political strategy.

    Given the option of a surgical strike to remove some iron-fisted regime and all out war,  I would be apt to attempt the assassination before the war.

    Robertson’s flawed religious logic allows him to condemn potential wrong doing and is exactly the reason we have checks and balances in our government system.  Imagine if some of Robertson’s ilk becomes president.

    What would be more likely than Robertson being used as ‘leak’ would be him having overheard some high level military/politicos brainstorming and his dementia wouldn’t allow him to keep it in.

  13. if I recall correctly, Robertson did make an unsuccessful run for president in ‘88.

    Another scary thought.

  14. The problem with assassinations are that they make martyrs and often act to make a difficult problem even more intractable….
    While I do think people like Hitler and Osama bin Laden are blights upon this Earth.  Killing them would only embolden and further enrage their followers.  Murdering people doesn’t work in terms of killing movements, it only gives the movement a symbol to rally behind.

    Yep, that is a problem all right.  Movements are part “cult-of-personality”, and part “idea-whose-time-has-come”.  Weighing the possibilities you mention should keep congress busy for a while.  They might decide that the leaders’ personality is a replaceable part in the movement, and to get to work on invalidating the idea behind the movement by changing the conditions on which it rests.

    Hardly an endorsement for assassinating anyone we don’t like willy-nilly.  As for Chavez, I don’t know anything at all about him. Robertson probably hates the idea of a popularly elected socialist leader, more than he hates the man.  Democracy, after all, is only a good thing so long as it produces results favorable to US. Right, Pat?  (Yeah, Robertson’s a closet facist.  And he leaves the closet door open all the time, with his stuff hanging out.)

  15. I religiously watch the 700 Club most days from my office, mostly for these little gems from Pat Robertson.  Every day they have a short news segment, usually spoken on the level most Americans can understand with some pretty pictures.  Usually, at the end, Pat Robertson then provides his own comments on the day’s events couched in the theatrical context of a conversation with his co-host.  These are the gems i DVR every day.

    While most Americans of opposing politics probably lack the emotional skills to sit through more than a few seconds of the 700Club (yeah, pop another pill, go ahead!), i think it’s important to understand what the Religious Right is thinking—and planning, and to do so in a calm, rational state.

    In London i had a boyfriend from Venezuela, just around the time Chavez came to power.  I sat through many a cocktail party conversation, dinner party, and just out at the pub get together where he, his family, and friends went on and on and on about the evils of Chavez.  That said, my boyfriend was decidedly middle-class (which in SAmerica means servants, European cars that accelerate too fast, and lotsa access to low-interest U$D loans for your business interests).  Being middle-class meant he was particularly fearful of Chavez.  Let’s remember this former military thug once tried to take power by force, and thus had made a few enemies, like my boyfriend’s father who worked in the London embassy.  A Chavez Administration, most assuredly populist in nature, meant payback to people like my bf’s dad and lots of other middle-class families.  You can’t take power without prying it away from someone else’s hands.

    While i am a Communist, and even support armed struggle for economic and civil liberties, i do not support Chavez.  His intentions are sane and good, but his methods?  Wash repeatedly after examining.  Take some time to examine some of the legislative no-no’s, judicial over-steps, never mind his “military past”, and you might think a tad differently about the man that calls Bush “Mr Danger-1” and Rummy “Mr Danger-2.”

    Pat Robertson is an actor, but Chavez is better.

    rob@egoz.org

  16. This is just a step toward Christian Conservative leaders becoming as ‘active’ in violence for their cause as other political/religious leaders in other countries. Being zealous is passionate.

    Everyone is considering this as if it is okay for anyone who claims to be practitioner of peace, love, or whatever to suggest killing anyone. They love that culture of life shit unless they are talking about someone who disagrees with their worldview. Save the fetus, kill the politicians.

  17. This is just a step toward Christian Conservative leaders becoming as ‘active’ in violence for their cause as other political/religious leaders in other countries.

    Well, we wouldn’t want a “mine-shaft gap” to develop between us and our enemies.  We need to be leaders!  tongue wink

    As for ‘save the fetus, kill the pols,’ you may be on to something with that second half…

    BTW Rob Adams, thanks for that comment – very interesting.  And I listen to James Dobson on the radio for the same reason.

  18. Reobertson know how to hate, but he certainly does not know how to wiggle his way out of his statement:  http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/index.html

    BTW:  Where is the “make a link” button on the comments screen?

    And on another note:

    But even Bush hits sometimes right…
    “See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don’t attack each other. Free nations don’t develop weapons of mass destruction.

  19. “See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don’t attack each other. Free nations don’t develop weapons of mass destruction.

  20. Let’s remember this former military thug once tried to take power by force, and thus had made a few enemies, like my boyfriend’s father who worked in the London embassy.  A Chavez Administration, most assuredly populist in nature, meant payback to people like my bf’s dad and lots of other middle-class families.  You can’t take power without prying it away from someone else’s hands.

    Anyone who plays fast and loose with election laws and insurrection to stay on top is pretty bad in my book. But – sorry if I engage in another round of US-bashing here – the USA hasn’t exactly been conductive to democratic handovers or a climate of democratic government change in Southern and Latin America during the last few decades. Allende anyone?

    If you want democracy, you have to support the democrats in other countries (with money and diplomatic support, preferrably, not with guns) and stand fast behind those gov’s that really are democratic (or more so than their neighbors).

    If on the other side, all you want is power (and to get your various agendas, from the war against communism to the war on drugs), then supporting or opposing anyone you want is pretty much par for he course. For anyone in the worlds history.

  21. Reobertson know how to hate, but he certainly does not know how to wiggle his way out of his statement…

    That’s really funny, I wonder if Chavez would prefer being kidnapped instead of being assasinated. He is brobaply thinking right now “If you think you can get me alive cabrone…”

  22. So if assassinating the Chavez could be done in Pat’s eyes to protect th U.S..  Could say all the members of the G8 get together to assassinate a member of their own club who they might see as a threat to the peace of the new world? (hmm who might that be?) What’s good for the goose? Perhaps the French secret service would do the job just for kicks and giggles?  They never seem to shy away from dirty work?

  23. Could say all the members of the G8 get together to assassinate a member of their own club who they might see as a threat to the peace of the new world?

    It’s the new TV reality show! 

    SURVIVOR: G8

    —Joe wink

  24. Anyone here who’d be against assassinating Osama?  Hitler?  To head off destruction, death, and wars?
    Aww, what the hell – he’s right.  Go ahead, call me crazy.  But here’s the hitch; AS WITH ANY OTHER WAR, CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE TO DECLARE IT.

     
    Who says Chavez is a Hitler or An Osama? Who gets to decide? Congress? It is extremely easy, in hindsight, to look through history and determine who the bad guys are. It’s usually another story to declare the “real

  25. I’d rather it be debated openly in congress, with full recognition that it is an act of war with all the attendent risks and possibilities of backfiring, than for the president to sit in his oval office and get a stiffy at the thought of making a quiet little phone call to the CIA.

    No, I don’t have a lot of faith in congress, but at least that would slow down the process and raise it above board.  And if the G8 could do a ‘survivor’ game on their leaders, it might make them more careful.

  26. When I was in boot camp during my first week, I told my fellow recruit master-at-arms for our company to go fuck himself when he told me to stand up during one class as I was falling asleep.  I acted inappropriately, but at the time, I felt he was a strutting little martinet. 

    That afternoon, I was called into the Drill Instructor’s office, where I was chewed up one side and down the other.  To this day, I’ll never forget what BM1 DeHart said: “…the enemy strikes from within.  You are that enemy.”

    I don’t think it has ever been more true than in cases like this.  Public figures without a shred of decency or morality continue to scam this country into thinking they are necessary to the salvation of America, when they themselves pos the biggest threat to democracy and freedom.  Unfortunately, it’s not a new message from the Religious Right.  Killin’ is perfectly fine, as far as they’re concerned, when it’s a target THEY think should be eliminated, whether that’s Chavez, an abortion doctor, or every muslim on the planet.

    Pat Robertson and his fellow hypocrites are in a position to reach millions of viewers, and the message they preach is one of hate and intolerance.  What amazes me is that the reasonable christians don’t rise up and do something about these people who continue to give the moderate and tolerant majority a bad name.

  27. We, at the Committee for A/08 – the unofficial, but highly motivated arm of Governor Schwarzenegger’s 2008 Presidential bid – are more than encouraged to see Men of God standing up for the “New” American Way. We believe that the morality of unwarranted military action needs constant re-enforcement from the pulpits of the nation.

  28. We, at the Committee for A/08 – the unofficial, but highly motivated arm of Governor Schwarzenegger’s 2008 Presidential bid – are more than encouraged to see Men of God standing up for the “New

  29. Although some of you might still be waiting for your cheap/free heating oil and gasoline to arrive from Venezuela, as First Citizen Hugo promised, you might want to pass the time reading this interesting NYTimes article regarding MrHyperPopulist’s latest antics:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/11/international/americas/11venezuela.html?8hpib

    After Hurricane Katrina, Mr. Chávez loudly accused Mr. Bush of bungling the rescue effort. On his trip to New York for a United Nations summit meeting in September, he made it a point to veer into two heavily Democratic and poor neighborhoods of the Bronx, where he offered to provide home heating oil at cut-rate prices and to underwrite an environmental study of the polluted Bronx River.

    Is Hugo the re-incarnation of Huey Long ?
    Last i checked, there Venezuelan tankers have yet to navigate up the East River with their free barrels of heating oil and gasoline, nor have they been spotted off the shores of New Orleans at the time of this writing.  No doubt due to the US Navy Seal’s infamous dolphin mining efforts off Venezuela’s coast.

    Venezuela has purchased 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles from Russia, and is acquiring combat planes from Brazil. Across the country, civilian militias are hard at work preparing for war, training volunteers like Josefina Rojas, 43, who showed up at a National Guard base on a recent day.

    “I want to protect the president,” she said. “I would defend the fatherland.”

    I guess universal medical care, literacy, oh and affordable food, are all now taking a back-seat to more populist “policies.”  I give the man 5 years before the hungry hordes eat him alive.

    rob@egoz.org

  30. Osama is going to pay the Mafia to rub him out.

    I never did think much of the arrogant bastard.

  31. tell poor bee: Osama is going to pay the Mafia to rub him out.
    I never did think much of the arrogant bastard.

    Not sure if you’re talking whether Usama or Chávez is the ‘arrogant bastard’.
    If you mean Usama (yes, it is Usama – the American media and or government changed it cos they didn’t want America’s Public Enemy #1’s name starting with USA) then what?
    It’s not as if your CIA hasn’t backed him before.
    If it’s Chávez then I wonder why.
    At least Chávez is trying to look after all his people as opposed to your own government that only looks after the rich.
    Any other type government scares the fuck outa you and your likeminded covern.
    You’re a goose from the flock, mate – go back … join them … fuck-off – you’re masturbating without even a credible fantasywink

  32. Hello you bunch of dipshits.  Robertson had it right.  If you could read Spanish, you would be able to read about the mass uprisings against Chavez that are going on right now in Venezuela.  You folks are so blinded by hate for Bush, and so ignorant about what is going on in Venezuela.

    Morons.

  33. Sccrrrrreeeeeeeech.
    La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.
    EE-aw-EE-aw-EE-aw-EE-aw.

  34. You’re missing the point, Dave. Not only is it against the law for a President to assassinate a foreign leader, but it’s not very Christian like of Robertson to advocate that the President should do such a thing.

    Whether or not there are mass uprisings against Chavez in Venezuela or if he’s truly deserving of being bumped off is entirely beside the point. But then not being a moron you already recognized that, right? Riiiiiight.

  35. Shortly after Chavez first announced nationalisation of the oil, there was a military coup against (democratically elected) Chavez, which lasted only 72 hours as the public took to the streets in protest.

    What was Bush’s comment on the failure of the coup.  Was it
    A) Although I oppose his politics, I am glad that the democratically elected government remains in power
    or
    B) Hopefully he [Chavez] will think more carefully next time.

  36. Oh LH, I’ll play.
    A wise, respected, thoughtful and may I say Lawful president, would say: Although I oppose his politics, I am glad that the democratically elected government remains in power

  37. And the answer is

    Well I never…

    B!

    I’m sorry John- you’ve lost the speed boat, but you do go home with the Stupid Evil Wooden Spoon!

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