Defining “Culture War(s)”

Right Wing crazies often talk about how they are fighting a “Culture War” here in America. But they haven’t taken the time to actualy define what these wars are or whom they are being fought against. From the outside it looks like it’s traditional values being replaced by the newer generation’s culture. But haven’t we seen this time and time again? Over and over for many generations? What makes this so special that it needs the term ‘war’ attached to it?

I know exactly why: the right-wing Christies want to keep their culture this way permanently,  with laws. Outlaw abortion, keep eroding Church & State, and outlaw homosexuality. Sound crazy? Maybe, but after Boycott Ford was launched yesterday, it seems all too possible. Launched by the American Family Assosciation, America’s newest hate group, Boycott Ford intends to get people to boycott Ford because they refused to discriminate against their homosexual employees. Yes, you read that correctly.

While this is hardly known to the general population, it is well known by numerous homosexual organizations. In fact, the Human Rights Campaign (a national homosexual organization whose goal is homosexual marriage) gave Ford a 100% corporate rating.

Emphasis mine. I initially thought that this culture war stuff was just a ploy to get people to pay attention to the right-wing expidentures. But this is a war. The US is pretty much as divided right now as it can be without being at a civil war. A culture war is the first step to a civil war.

In fact, history repeats itself (well, duh, but stay with me here). Peter the Great used his superpower in Russia to change its culture and westernize the country. The same can happen here if we let the right-wing evangelicals gain too much power. No more contraceptives or abortion, public hangings of homosexuals, God everywhere. And this war isn’t totally metaphorical either. There are madmen bombing abortion clinics, and kids getting beaten up in school for not believing what their Christian schoolmates do. Christians are getting libraries to practice censorship by banning books they don’t like (i.e, sexuality books that say Homosexuality is ok).

Of course, it’s possible that the Christians are suffering from Arborary Vision Imparement (they can’t see the forest for the trees), but I find that highly unlikely. I was going to conclude this post with “if it gets too bad, we can always move to Canada”. But after reading Socialist Swine’s blog, I think the same thing could happen there too. And in the next country. And the next. Christian craziness spreading like a tumour so much that the only safe place left is New Guinea.

But then, you never know…

58 thoughts on “Defining “Culture War(s)”

  1. Originally posted by shana:
    Really, if my brain were connected to my mother’s, she would still prefer green and I would still prefer blue—and that’s just colors.

    That’s kind of a lame example and a utopia would not depend on that kind of uniformity, but to play along what if it could be scientifically proven that green was better for you in the long run?  Would you choose blue even though it would mean less happiness or pleasure in the long run?  Now I’m not talking about changing peoples color preferences but more importantly their moral compass.  If we used the sciences to decide what was right and wrong based on their perceivable effects on society and the individual then encouraged people to drop smoking because it would be harmful in the long run while not judging them in the process wouldn’t we be doing better as a world society?  The idea is self improvement beginning with societal improvement.  Those who refuse to do what is best for themselves will weed themselves out.  Natural selection as usual.

  2. Well, I suspect we’ve gone past the point of diminishing returns already, but I’ll give it one more go.

    …but to play along what if it could be scientifically proven that green was better for you in the long run?  Would you choose blue even though it would mean less happiness or pleasure in the long run?

    Theo, do you honestly believe that “pleasure” and “happiness” are single-value variables, constant and quantifiable across all individuals at all times?  If so, I’d love to hear your definitions of them.  If not, and that is what life tells me, I don’t see hope for your project of absolute moral law.

    Those who refuse to do what is best for themselves will weed themselves out.  Natural selection as usual.

    You mean, they’ll smoke weed, and turn on, tune in, and drop out?  But you mention natural selection- I guess you mean they’ll use birth control and opt out of the gene pool.  Voluntarily?  Will anyone be allowed to smoke under any conditions?

    Theo, the world is a much too complicated place for there ever to be absolute agreement about what is good and bad.  All we can do is make the best compromises we can, and be mindful of differences.

  3. shana, Raymond Smullyan is delightful. Here’s a tidbit from his biography:

    Smullyan recounts his introduction to logical puzzles when he was six years old:-

      On 1 April 1925, I was sick in bed … In the morning my brother Emile (ten years my senior) came into my bedroom and said: “Well, Raymond, today is April Fool’s Day, and I will fool you as you have never been fooled before!” I waited all day for him to fool me, but he didn’t.

    Emile had fooled him by not fooling him! Smullyan writes:-

      I recall lying in bed long after the lights were turned out wondering whether or not I had really been fooled.

    …and he became a philosopher. Is God a Taoist? can be found here.

  4. If we were capable of achieving such perfect communication, then upon achieving it, we would cease to be human.

    And this somehow refutes the idea that this shall happen?  Trust me, our lifestyles today?  We would hardly appear human to the habitants of Earth 40,000 years ago, never mind 10,000 years ago.

     

    Really, if my brain were connected to my mother’s, she would still prefer green and I would still prefer blue—and that’s just colors.

    Experience establishes non-physiologically based preferences.  If you share experiences, you might find (to your horror) that your differences would wither away.

    And perhaps we all, in Truth, share a common favorite color, we just see it in different places.

    rob@egoz.org

  5. I think that personality is a combination of genetic predispositions and experience, so our choices are, to some degree, affected by genetics.  Those effects influence experience and make of it what they will.

    My example was not lame at all, Theocrat.  Color preference is just the tip of the iceberg.  If people are to share perceptions of the world so closely that they make the same decisions, wouldn’t that hold true even for something as simple as color?

  6. So just a thought, God doesn’t exist so you think why then if government’s don’t believe and scientists don’t believe, why are they looking for the ark, why are important people and government scientists trying to find the ark of the covenant.? And since all intelligent life such as humans cows dogs fish ex… must have Male and female the reproduce how can a molecule split and form Male and female at the exact same time. And since the first dinosaur was discovered in 1819 how can the bi bible in the book of Job verse 42 to 45 describe them perfectly even breathing fire, wait scientists only discovered they could breathe fire in the 90s . There is much more, like how can God be 3 in the same the father the son and the holy ghost let’s think for a second I have a human body something in me thinks and leaves the body also something guides me from within. O I can’t prove this, let’s see my body is 43 and my mind or spirit doesn’t know time because it is eternal it thinks my body can preform like it was 18 try doing at 43 what you did at 18 the body says know but the spirit says go… with this small detail say everyone who believes in God is wrong what do we have to loose, but what if we are right what do you have to loose… but if you choose not to believe it is really your choice, no one else will be faulted. 1 thing that is proven we all are appointed to die once, I don’t know of anyone who has cheated death.. I think you must be very brave to not believe and take a chance of not knowing God, 100 years seems long,I couldn’t imagine a eternity….

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