Jerry Falwell and his raging machinery of death.

If you didn’t catch Wolf Blitzer’s interview of Jesse Jackson and Jerry Falwell last Sunday, you should go read the transcript. Falwell’s particular brand of Christianity and his blindness to not only his own nature, but also to reality, makes me think humanity is f*cked. We’re f*cked if we keep marching around with attitudes like this. Absolutely, positively f*cked. I can’t believe this blood-thirsty moron can get an interview on national television.

Over and over, just like our administration has tried to do, he blurs the distinction between those who murdered over 3000 American citizens and the Arab nation we invaded afterwards who happened to have nothing to do with the attack. "I’d rather be killing them over there [Iraq] than fighting them over here," Jerry rants. Them, them, them.

JACKSON: I submit to you today that our going to Iraq was a misadventure. It has put America in isolation. We are losing lives, money and losing our character in that war. We deserve better leadership. And we need…

FALWELL: I’d rather be killing them over there than fighting them over here, Jesse. And I think you would…

JACKSON: Let’s stop the killing and choose peace. Let’s choose negotiation over confrontation.

FALWELL: Well, I’m for that too. But you’ve got to kill the terrorists before the killing stops. And I’m for the president to chase them all over the world. If it takes 10 years, blow them all away in the name of the Lord.

JACKSON: That does not sound Biblical to me. And that sounds ridiculous.

FALWELL: Well, when they kill my family and blow those towers down…

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Did you catch that? Jesse states that going into Iraq was a “misadventure”, but Falwell justifies it as revenge for when “they” killed his family and knocked some buildings down with planes.

This is what happens when you see the world in black and white, us and them, Christians and barbarians. (Because, of course, the United States would never sponsor terrorism—not us.) Some rich Saudi kid trashed a few of our buildings and killed some of our innocent citizens in an attempt to strike at the military and economic centers of a government he believes has occupied the holiest of the holy lands.

So because of this, Falwell thinks we’re perfectly justified in invading another unrelated Arab nation, going around and bombing the buildings of people whose government we believe might have been thinking about restarting programs that would one day produce materials that might aid enemies who want to push their supposedly corrupt worldview on others. When they kill innocents at an attempt to strike at what they believe is a corrupt foreign government, they are murderous barbarians. When we rain death from the sky, killing innocents in an attempt to stop what we believe is a corrupt foreign government, we call it Shock and Awe(TM).

Sounds great, right? I mean, those silly Iraqis are scrambling over themselves to adopt our culture and government, greeting us with flowers and candies, because our worldview is obviously so advanced. So advanced that we are clearly a liberator by lending our worldview to them. And continuing to set up military bases in their Arab countries. They love it, right? We can provide them security, improve their standard of living, and give them elections! (Because the United States is so good at running elections.)

Falwell and so many other Americans out there need to wake up and realize that we invaded Iraq as a larger part of a geopolitical strategy involving our relationship with Russia, China, and to a lesser extent, Iran and the rest of the world in general. It is a way of imposing power on others. Be that strategy right or wrong, either morally or from a strategic view, we need to realize that our execution of that strategy has been a major catalyst of terrorism. Why do Bin Laden and others vow to attack us? Why would they throw away their lives to see us die? Largely because we dumped a bunch of bases in Saudi Arabia after the first Gulf War and because of our unending support of Israel. Some of the things we have done may have been necessary, but we need to admit that, at least in part, we brought this terrorist threat on ourselves through our actions. Perhaps terrorism was a trade off we were willing to make (or didn’t foresee), but it is now being used as a way of rallying this nation to do something much less obvious—to assert our power against the rest of the world, for good or evil.

And people like Jerry Falwell are cheering it on, screaming for blood in the name of their Lord.

All I can say is if there is a God (with a capital G), I can only hope that he saves us from this madness.

[ Cross posted from MB1/RPF ]

8 thoughts on “Jerry Falwell and his raging machinery of death.

  1. I 100% agree with you that Jerry Faldwell is a complete idiot, and I would additionally say thet he is no better than the mullahs that call for death to all Americans.

    You also make some good points in your article, however, you mention a few things that really irk me.

    1. “Some rich Saudi kid trashed a few of our buildings and killed some of our innocent citizens” – That is a gross simplification and understatement of what happened and you know it.  Just because time has passed and it is a memory now, does not give you the right to minimalize the worst act of violence this country has seen since WWII.

    2. You say that we were attacked, “Largely because we dumped a bunch of bases in Saudi Arabia after the first Gulf War and because of our unending support of Israel.”  I hope that you are not saying that this gives them the right to do what they did.  Regardless, I think this reason is a bunch of BS.  They hate us for our ideals and way of life (just like Faldwell hates them for there’s) and want to destroy anything associated with us.

    From everything that I’ve read and experienced, I have come to the personal understanding that the vast majority of terrorist groups do NOT in fact represent the will of the people they supposedly fight for.  They are extremists who thrive on violence and will always look for an excuse to kill others.  And as long as funding flows to the terrorist groups faster than it does to aide groups these extremists will always be in business.

  2. Actually, both Falwell and Jackson come off as doofuses (doofusoi?)—both men seeming to wear a thin veneer of religious righteousness in order to flog their particular political viewpoints.  Idjits.

  3. I couldn’t agree with you more, Dave.  Except Jackson isn’t calling for the blood of Arabs.

    Rube, have you read the various edicts that Bin Laden has issued?  If you believe that the major themes of his beef with the US are something other than our occupation of Saudi Arabia and our support of Israel, please enumerate them.

    I, unlike you, provided backing to my claim about why Bin Laden has it out for us—I provided the best summary I could find of his various calls for Jihad against us and the reasons for that. Please feel free to google around for even more details.  Search for the specific titles of or phrases from his edicts.  And then read more than the first paragraph.  Get past the basics that he thinks we are evil and read about *why* he thinks we are evil.

    Please try to be honest with yourself about this.  If you can’t find any other reason that Bin Laden may dislike us other than “he hates our freedom and way of life”, after reading the links I have provided, then so be it.  I can’t force the truth down your throat, nor would I try.  But I think you have gravely misunderestimated (ha!) our enemy (yours, mine, and all other Americans’) by swallowing our administrations bullshit line of “they hate our ideals and our way of life”.

    While it may be true from 20 thousand feet, there’s more to it than that and if we fail to understand that fact, we will never overcome the forces of terror in the world.

    None of what I point out justifies what Bin Laden has done.  And I would never disregard acts of violence against the US or anyone else.  What we need to do is talk about the real causes of terrorism, honestly, and realize that our actions in a larger strategic sense may contribute to the rise of terrorism.  Those larger strategic actions may very well be necessary.  Sometimes risking terrorism may be what we have to do.  Fine.  Sometimes, however, it is not worth it.  Fine, as well.  We need to make this judgement about all of our actions.  But until we can get to that point in discourse, we will forever be the sheep of our administration.

    I hope perhaps the links I have provided may help open your mind about this subject, but ultimately, nobody can do that for you except yourself.

  4. DKruz,

    First, thanks for the links.  I will definitely look into them.

    A big thing I want to clarify is that I have NOT swallowed “our administrations bullshit line of ‘they hate our ideals and our way of life’”  I really shouldn’t have used that phrase because of it’s frequent use by this administration.  While I can’t really say how I feel about the current administration (until after Nov 2nd), I will say that I did not for Bush.

    When I refer to terrorist groups, I’m not only speaking of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.  Bin Laden and the like can make all the claims they want, but the words and actions of these groups are usually two different things.  Do you really think that he would stop attacks on us if we took troops out of Saudi Arabia or took a “harder” stance on Israel?

    Speaking of Israel, Arab terrorist groups want nothing short of the complete removal (or destruction) of every Jew in Israel.  There is no peaceful solution for them.  While many Arab governments have worked at peaceful solutions with Israel, the groups I speak of have never wavered in their goal of complete destruction.

    My point is that terrorists want to terrorize*.  They perpetuate violence and seek out ways to continue to do what they do.  I think that they only use their demands and/or causes to hide behind and gain public support.  If half the money that went to fund these groups went to help the people they “fight for”, life for these people would be much better (but then that would seriously hurt recruiting efforts).

    Should the US handle things differently in the middle east?  Absolutely yes (hence my vote).  But I don’t think that anything we would do would appease the terrorists.  I’ve never heard of a terrorist group that stopped their attacks when their goals were met (I’d love to see a link on that).

    So how do we solve this problem, without a never-ending cycle of violence?  Damned if I know.  It is a complex problem, and people much smarter than I will need to solve it.  I agree with you that we need to look deeper than face value and really find out what it will take to achieve peace in the region.  This includes a close look at our own policies as well.  Extremism on either side will do nothing to bring about peace.

    *I don’t pretend to know everything there is to know about terrorism.  These are my opinions formed over everything I have read and experienced (sorry if I don’t have a list of sources).  Having said this, I can’t stress enough that I make every effort to form my own opinion and not take what the media and/or the current administration spoon feeds us.  I hope I didn’t come off as being that close-minded in my previous post.

  5. Is it so wrong to believe in “justifiable homicide”? This is one of the many reasons why I believe sanctity of human life is “negotiable”.

  6. I complelty agree with your article.  Yet America never existed as a passive, fair, and non-ethocentric nation so why start now.  We are falling in ranks as a super power to other nations.  In a world were there are no set rules, morals, or standards, the will to power prevails and those unpowerful masses that stand in the way are obviously immmortal and desposible.  A fully free democratic state has never fully existed, corruption florished in this world

  7. America is the leading terrorist nation in the world. It is amazing to me that because we do our killing with F-16s and Tanks instead of home made bombs, we consider our crimes to be justified. The US was a nation founded with the desire to throw the yoke of imperialism off (remeber england?). Fast forward 200 something years and we find ourselves to be the imperializers. People don’t desire conflict with a superpower for trivial reasons.

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