Jeb Bush blames God for Hurricane Charley’s unpredictability.

I’m sure it’s not what he intended to do, but Florida Governor Jeb Bush effectively said God was responsible for scientists being wrong in their prediction of where Charley would make landfall:

“God doesn’t follow the linear projections of computer models,” Bush said outside the emergency management center, whose roof caved in during the hurricane. “This is God’s way of telling us that he’s almighty and we’re mortal.”

He didn’t bother to suggest why God would feel the need to make his point in such a deadly manner or what sins he thought his constituents were guilty of to justify such a demonstration, but judging from the damage done one can only assume that God must’ve been pretty pissed off. Or perhaps he was just tired of the piece-meal manner in which he had been offing Floridians and decided to just clean out a whole bunch all at once so he could get an early start on a vacation or something. Still, to Jeb’s credit, at least he tried to deflect some of the criticism from the scientists. Not sure God’ll be too happy with his choice of where to lay the blame so if Jeb suddenly explodes in a fit of spontaneous combustion don’t be too surprised.

77 thoughts on “Jeb Bush blames God for Hurricane Charley’s unpredictability.

  1. Wonder if Jeb considered the fact that God was mad at him for fucking up the election 4 years ago?  I hate it when people offer up reasons for why God does things, especially Christians, especially since it is in direct conflict with altruisms stated in the Bible that instructs, God’s ways are mysterious.

  2. I’m a fairly religious person, but that’s a load of bullshit. If it were the first hurricane in human history, then I could see the Almighty getting some heat for this, but for something that happens every goddamned (oops, goin’ to hell for that!) year, it should be no surprise.

    I love how religious freaks give God credit for everything bad (a hurricane) or for everything good (winning the Super Bowl because God likes the Patriots more than the Panthers).

  3. What I wonder is Why are we surprised by this nonsense anymore?,

    Hell, this week Alan Keyes blamed women who had abortions for 9/11 – God had to show us his power and all that…

    FIrst of all… stop blaming me for shit I didn’t do… second of all, re-read the previous statement smile

    The only thing that we can possibly blame god for if we postulate the he/she/it exists, is for being mioptic enough to create people afraid to think for them selves…

    Feh!

  4. Our family has an old family bible, which, while the last two generations of ours have been agnostics and atheists, is still quite treasured, because it also doubles as a family tree/chronology-whatchamacallit going back almost 400 years (nifty, eh?).

    Anyway, there are a couple dates in there except births and deaths that the writers considered important at that time. Guess what: every time a storm swept away the house or it burned down or drought struck, they were using (and re-using) phrases like ‘May god never send something like that again’. Geez, it took some time to learn that…

    Ingolfson

  5. Funny how the only people who got God’s message are the people who already believe in God. Even funnier how God, who supposedly created us, wouldn’t have learned to send less ambiguous messages to those of us who don’t believe.

  6. It is god’s warning to people in Florida that there better be no more hanging chads. Least he will send his god of ocean noah to flood the area.

  7. Hmm… maybe god was just tired of the old people taking too long to die?  I’m betting he took to long of a nap and got behind so he had to play ketchup.

    Either way, at least Jeb cleared it up for us as to whose fault it actually is.

  8. All the Bush family are complete idiots.

    Fixed it for ya’!  tongue wink

    I still think Jeb is the smart(est) one. Honestly, I’d be much more surprised if no one had said anything to this effect (God’s reminding us mere mortals of his almighty power, etc).

  9. I have to agree with Mike there. I would have been surprised if there was no god did this comments about it. What about a hurricane that never hits land, was god just pissed at all those damned fish filling up his ocean?

  10. Hi giyz,

    i thnk this god beleivers are fools or why should god make us fail in our exams,kill people…he can make a new earth also to us so tht ther won;t be more population in the normal earth…I thnk god is just an imaginary fool

  11. It’s stupid the way Christians interpret tragedies such as this… it’s even more stupid coming from a fucking asshole like Jeb Bush. All this God talk is so pointless and embarassingly silly.

  12. I am a Christian (and a liberal) and would like to explain what you all seem to be so silly.

    The Bible says that God creates all good and all calamity.  If you believe that, then you believe that God sent that storm to Florida. 

    Maybe Jeb’s conscience was bothering him for all those hanging chads.

  13. I am a Christian (and a liberal) and would like to explain what you all seem to be so silly. The Bible says that God creates all good and all calamity.  If you believe that, then you believe that God sent that storm to Florida.

    Charlamarla, despite a somewhat more-than-passing familiarity with the Bible, I can’t seem to recall seeing that in the book.  It also seems to have escaped C.S. Lewis in his research and writing for The Problem Of Pain.

  14. I am a Christian (and a liberal)…

    How do you live with yourself? Or is it kinda like being Frosted Shredded Wheat, having the perfect combination of great taste with a wholesome fear of a god?

  15. I have been coming on and off to your blog (Google loves ya!) the last few years, but felt this round I’m actually in a place having gone through Charley, Frances, etc. anyway, I feel sure you will have some strong feedback for me if you have time to look at my website, http://www.wesurvivedcharley.com  since you know how to blog so well, and the content is enjoyable and passionate.  Thanks! Gotta run, W.S.

  16. I think your website is just fine. A little heavy on the God-promotion, but otherwise there’s not a whole lot of criticism I can level against it.

  17. Just wanted to address this comment posted to me:

    “Charlamarla, despite a somewhat more-than-passing familiarity with the Bible, I can’t seem to recall seeing that in the book.  It also seems to have escaped C.S. Lewis in his research and writing for The Problem Of Pain.”

    If I want to see if something is in the Bible, I don’t look for a C.S. Lewis book, I just go to the Bible. Here’s the passage, translated in different ways, where God says he creates good and evil. NIV and other PC’d up versions of the Bible use the terms “prosperity and disaster,” “hard times and good times,” “peace and calamity.”  I’m not that much of a nerd that I can translate from the greek texts, so I’m left to compare scriptures in question to other English translations. Moreover, the Bible has countless instances where God has people go through terrible things so they can grow and come out of it stronger.

    Isaiah 45:7 KJV

    7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    Darby
    7   forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.

    Youngs Literal
    7   Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I [am] Jehovah, doing all these things.’

  18. “How do you live with yourself? Or is it kinda like being Frosted Shredded Wheat, having the perfect combination of great taste with a wholesome fear of a god?”

    Really well.  Read the Bible, you’ll find out.

  19. Isaiah 45:7 KJV
    7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    Well, Charlamarla, you got me: you found a “proof-text.” In fact I had forgotten about that conversation between Jacob and God.

    But you said that all good and all calamity come from God, which isn’t what that passage says.  In fact the bible associates human suffering with Satan, with “wicked men,” with God as it says in that verse, with demons, with the natural effects of wickedness upon the self, with poor planning, and even with random chance (think the tower at Siloam.)  God is far from the only source of calamity.

    Residents of Florida are probably all too aware of Jesus’ statements about the foolish man who built his house upon the sand, and when the waters came, it fell with a great crash.  I bet they’re sick of hearing that one by now.

    I wasn’t trying to find bible verses in Lewis – that’s what a concordance (and long familiarity with the bible) is for.  I was just trying (clumsily) to point out that a respected theologian didn’t see that single verse as having significant impact on the problem of pain. 

    Read the bible, you’ll find out

    Do you realize you’re assuming someone else will get the same thing out of reading the bible that you do?  It’s an astounding assumption, given that people come to a wide range of conclusions after reading it.  Usually, I would venture to say, about what they expected and hoped to find, going in.  There are enough different things in there that you can latch onto whatever seems important to you.

  20. decrepitoldfool:

    You said that the Bible blames human suffering on Satan, but I’ve found through my reading that there are other reasons for human suffering.  You mentioned some, but you did not mention what the Bible mentions, that God disciplines people, and he brings them to hardships to make them into something better. No pain no gain, so to speak.  Paul spoke of the “thorn” in his flesh, put there to remind him that he is not flawless, lest he think he is better than any of the least of our human family.

    And, God created Satan, with His foreknowledge of what that would mean.

    Personally, I do not question His intentions.  None of us can make the sun come up or bring in the tides, and until we do, we can’t question His intentions. There is a reason behind it all, and science keeps finding out new reasons all the time.  I believe there is darkness in the world so we can see the Light of the Lord in it.

    “Do you realize you’re assuming someone else will get the same thing out of reading the bible that you do?”

    Absolutely.  But, I was addressing a specific question from Brock, how can I live with myself.  Any one that reads the Bible can see that you can have a variety of viewpoints on social and economic issues while maintaining a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus, in his own right, was a “liberal” of his day, challenging people to look beyond the letter of the law to the REASON behind the law.  He advocated kindness, mercy, patience and obedience.  Conservatives wanted to stone the prostitute but Jesus said, have compassion.  My conservative friends believe different things about social and economic issues, but we all believe in the Lord. Jesus spoke to the POOR and the RICH.  He did not exclude any class of people, and when he rose again, he commissioned his followers to spread his message to ALL people (republicans and democrats are included in ALL people wink.

    A read of the Bible would show you that you can live quite well with yourself no matter your political leanings.

    God bless!

  21. Charlamarla, I noted seven sources the bible identifies as causing suffering, and said that that wasn’t even an inclusive list.  Go back and read the comment.

    People can live with themselves if they read the bible?  Sure, many do.  And some kill themselves, some kill other people, and some are unhappy.  What people get out of the bible is very closely related to what they bring to it.

  22. Decrepitoldfool,

    You asked:

    “People can live with themselves if they read the bible?”

    You misunderstood.  Let me clarify for you.  I was asked how do I reconcile being a liberal and a Christian.  I responded that you can find the answer by reading the Bible.  If you accept what you have been TOLD, you would think that being a liberal and a Christian are two opposing viewpoints.  If you actually READ the Bible, you would see that a variety of political views are acceptable for a follower of Jesus Christ.

    Hope that clears up the confusion.

  23. If, after reading the bible, I haven’t come to the same conclusions as you have does this mean I haven’t actually READ the bible?

    To actually READ the bible do I need a decoder ring or 3-D glasses, how do I READ it?

  24. Charlamarla said: You misunderstood.  Let me clarify for you.  I was asked how do I reconcile being a liberal and a Christian.  I responded that you can find the answer by reading the Bible.  If you accept what you have been TOLD, you would think that being a liberal and a Christian are two opposing viewpoints.  If you actually READ the Bible, you would see that a variety of political views are acceptable for a follower of Jesus Christ.

    So… you can get pretty much what you want out of the bible?  I believe I said that.

    I have bible-reading liberal friends and bible-reading conservative friends, and they’re all pretty smart so it is logical to assume that they’re getting out what they put in.  The bible is a Rorschach test for your political and ethical convictions, plus a convenient justification for them.  If you took any large collection of writings it could demonstrate the same characteristic.

  25. So…how does that differ from what I said?  If the sentence “she took the money off the table” can have seven different interpretations, what do you think of the Bible, which is a library written by different authors at different periods of time, writing on different subjects covering the same theme?

    Like I said, if you read the Bible, you can see that different political viewpoints can be held by followers of Jesus Christ.

    I’m a bit boggled at why you felt the need to reiterate that (several times) for me.

    God bless!

    Personally I think the Bible is a great read, even if you don’t believe it.

  26. So… you can get pretty much what you want out of the bible?  I believe I said that.

    You said it, DoF!  A friend of mine, raised Jewish, became a Jesus freak (she called herself that) after reading a book which proved the divine origin of the Bible by a numerological analysis of the numbers of words in the verses.  Any sufficiently complex text can indeed support (using the word loosely) an indefinite number of interpretations.  What you said.

    Unfortunately, mere demonstration of this, such as magicians bending spoons to repudiate Uri Geller, is insufficient to shake belief in many cases.  In the case of my Jesus freak friend, I was able in about two minutes to find the number 666 in her name, but for some reason this didn’t impress her.

    Personally I think the Bible is a great read, even if you don’t believe it.

    Amen, charlamarla.  And there’s some real wisdom in there too, not just talking snakes and cud-chewing rabbits.

  27. Sorry to “boggle” you, Charlamarla, but if the bible says whatever you want it to say, what good is it?  That’s what I’m getting at, and what you’re missing time after time.  I think we’re boggling each other. 

    Oh, it’s a “great read.”  Yes, some parts are worth reading; others closely resemble the rantings of a lunatic, and still others sound like a kind of prehistoric telephone book.

    Yes, I have “actually read” the bible. But as argument for, or proof of anything, it’s worthless. That was, and is, my point.

    Captcha: “reached,” as in: “I have reached the end of my interest in this topic.”

  28. I challenge anyone to prove to me that God does not exist in 3 lines of reason, not rhetoric or anecdote.  To say that God cannot be proven is either an act of the will so that one can continue a particular lifestyle without consequences or an act of utter foolishness.  The existance of God can be proven to anyone who wishes to see the truth.  You must start with no assumptions at all.  It is scientific infidelity to start with the assumption that there is no God just as it is to assume that God does exist.  I believe in a monotheistic God based on observation of facts and careful assimilation of those facts.  I believe in the Bible based on facts and faith together.  God has given us a gift more beautiful than anything.  It is the gift of free will and He will respect that even to the detriment of us, His creation.

  29. I challenge anyone to prove to me that God does not exist in 3 lines of reason

    Okey dokey:

    reasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreaso

    reasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreason

    reasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreasonreason

    Is God in these three lines of reason?  I think not, unless He’s really small.  Therefore, these are three lines of reason God does not exist in.

  30. This God that absolutely exists must have no concept of the mandates reduce, reuse, recycle.

    He is a wasteful glutton of a consumer who spends energy and matter like nobody’s business, throwing out perfectly good containers as his whims suit him. It would be best not to support his ruinous behavior.

    Good one zilch!

  31. Zilch – LOL!  I was just about to click “unsubscribe” to this thread when Teddy dropped by.  You never know what’s going to happen to brighten your day.  grin

  32. Brock,  why is it that God must conserve energy?  Since he is the creator of all energy and matter and can create more without effort, then why must he be limited in scope to what he can do.  He owns everything yet He allows you freewill, to chose Him or not.

  33. That was a good one zilch.

    The burden of proof remains on the person making the claim that something does indeed exist.

    Teddy – You can post multiple thoughts in one thread, just identify who you’re speaking too as you did in your last post.

  34. Come on guy’s.  Someone say something.  Have fun with the evangelical conservative Baptist.  Yes, a Baptist.

  35. We are having fun with you. Or at least I am, I’ve laughed at every comment so far. Somehow I don’t suspect your suggestion that you’re looking for a deeply logical explanation are even remotely sincere so there’s no point in expending the effort.

    Besides, DeadScot is correct, you’re the one claiming he does exist so the burden to prove it is on you.

  36. Deadscot, thank you.  You are right the burden of proof is on me.  I would offer the very act of existance as proof that God exist.  It is well accepted that the universe and matter itself had a beginning and may possibly have an end.  Something cannot come from nothing.  Yes I believe in the big bang, but that would go along with a theistic view much more than an atheistic view.  Something cannot come from nothing.  Since the Universe had a beginning, something must have created it.  It could not create itself.

  37. Wow, he wants to start over right at square one. We’ve covered that nonsense several times here at SEB. Use the search function and then come back once you’re finished reading.

    We’ll wait.

  38. I would also offer that time itself is proof of God.  Time could not have always existed.  If time always existed then there would be an infinate number of minutes before the one we are at.  This proves that time had a beginning, because since there would be an infinate number of minutes before this minute, we could never get to this minute because you could never traverse an infinate amount of time.  Once again if time had a beginning then it had to have a beginner.

  39. Les,  I would like to start at square one because that is where all atheistic views fail.  It is the presupositions that are flawed.  I believe you are starting with a presupostion that there is no God, when in fact, to be neutral as an atheist it would seem that one should start with no opinion as to whether God exist or not.  So please bear with me and start at the beginning.  I would hope that someone at your level would appreciate ripping me apart and making me look foolish on such basic knowledge.

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