Anti-American sentiment growing in Iraq despite death of Saddam’s sons.

They love us! They really, really love us! Well, no, not really. Seems even the people that were happy to see U.S. tanks rolling into their towns are now starting to long for the brutal, but stable days of life under Saddam.

More Iraqis see U.S. as enemy, not ally

Many Iraqis say they view U.S. troops as foreign occupiers. As attacks against U.S. troops continue, the low-level guerrilla war that U.S. military officials say is being waged by former regime loyalists, foreign terrorists and criminals could grow into a wider nationalist struggle.

“The killing or capture of Saddam Hussein will do nothing,” said Mungith Daghir, vice president of the Iraq Center for Research and Strategic Studies, a group Baghdad University professors founded after Hussein’s ouster.

Omar Abid al-Mugeeth said he doesn’t care whether Hussein is alive or gone for good. Since U.S. troops rolled into the Iraqi capital in April and forced Hussein into hiding, the 31-year-old money changer has been robbed twice, losing thousands of dollars.

“When the Americans first came, trust in them was 100 percent,” al-Mugeeth said. “But now there is none. There is no security. There is no electricity. There is no water. At least we had these things under Saddam. Before, I hated Saddam. But right now, he is better than the Americans.”

Daghir said a poll by his research center found that 32 percent of 1,000 Iraqis surveyed say they believe that former regime loyalists are behind the attacks. However, 22 percent blame the attacks on U.S. provocations, including raiding people’s homes.

Outside experts that the Pentagon sent to Iraq in early July concluded that the situation will deteriorate unless Iraqis see quick improvement in the next three months in security, delivery of basic services, new jobs and more Iraqi involvement in the political process. Its report recommended expanding Bremer’s Coalition Provisional Authority, including more international personnel, and more cash from Congress.

Qaism Hadi, an organizer for the Union of Unemployed in Iraq, estimated that 6 million to 8 million Iraqi adults are unemployed. Iraq’s total population is 24 million. The group wants the coalition to give each unemployed person $100 a month until they can find jobs, and it wants something done to boost the economy.

“There are people here who are ready to kill themselves because they’ve had no job, no money, nothing for the last three months,” Hadi said.

Underground militant organizations are willing to pay 75,000 Iraqi dinars a month—about $50—for anyone who joins them and 1 million dinars ($670) for every attack in which they participate, Hadi said. “If the Americans can’t provide us with jobs or money, it is possible that many people will soon join these terrorist organizations,” he said.

Sure, Saddam may have butchered hundreds of thousands of his own people. He also may have played favorites and been sadistic in his methods of punishment. He still managed to provide a stability and security that has been lacking since the U.S. took over and that’s even with crippling sanctions against him.

Seems trying to do it on the cheap isn’t working out as well as Rumsfeld would like it to, perhaps he should consider kicking it up a notch before these people really get pissed off.

17 thoughts on “Anti-American sentiment growing in Iraq despite death of Saddam’s sons.

  1. Seriously, I would love for something good to come out of Iraq, but other than putting Saddam’s Man-Meat Butcher Shop out of business (and let me stress again for the record that I do think that’s a good thing) there has been precious little in the way of good coming out of Iraq.

    My attitude now can be summed up as follows: Right or wrong, we’re there now and we’ve made quite a mess of things. It’s clear that the forces and resources we’ve committed to getting the country back up and running in a timely manner are insufficient and it’s contributing to a growing unease among the Iraqi populace. If we’re going to insist on staying and trying to “help” with rebuilding then get serious about it and devote the forces and resources needed to the project to get it done as quickly as possible and remove that source of discontent among the Iraqis. If we’re not serious about it then get the hell out before we lose any more service men and do any more damage.

    This half-assed approach to the situation is doing more harm than good.

  2. I concur; half-assed approach ungood.  They (we) should be in there cutting lawns and helping little old ladies across the street if that

  3. Firstly, let me congradulate Bill on his years-long global pub-crawl for national security!  Maybe that’s why we are so eager to take on the Islamic world – those selfish mullahs won’t let our servicepeople get snot-flying :drunk: .

    Secondly, any objections to the persistent anti-American sentiment in Iraq should not center so much on our current efforts over there, but instead should be focused on the patently bullshit promises and predictions made by the administration cheerleaders prior to the invasion.  We’re over there now, and are honor-bound to eat the rebuilding turd, however many hundreds of billions it ends up costing.

    However, if we realy want to reduce Islamic terrorism, we should demonstrate good faith and get American companies out of there as quickly as possible.

  4. …they fought not only for the red, white, and blue of the flag, but also for the red, white, and blue of the Budweiser can!

  5. Great site, too bad this is the first I’ve heard of it! Seems a rather comical forum.. Okay, now to my ranting…

    Where has the love gone? Sorry fellas & fellettes, it was never there. Allow a quote from John le Carre from the Times/UK: “How Bush and his junta succeeded in deflecting America’s anger from bin Laden to Saddem Hussein is one of the great public relations conjuring tricks of history. But they swung it. A recent poll tells us that one in two Americans now believe Saddam was responsible for the attack on the World Trade Centre. But the American public is not merely being misled. It is being browbeaten and kept in a state of ignorance and fear. The carefully orchestrated neurosis should carry Bush and his fellow conspirators nicely into the next election”

    Would it be wrong then to assume that the Iraqis are likewise being fed the biased, propaganda cookie aswell? Probably. Pardon my linguistic manners/spelling and bear with me for a moment. Propaganda ofcourse is not always false, but rather lacking many truths, or angles. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Iraqis, or better still, Arabs abroad are PROBABLY more educated in American foreign policy and history than us (the majority of North Americans), believe them to be. Where are the polls and surveys questioning the average arab man’s knowledge of American history? Now I could be wrong, I am part of a Canadian-Lebanese community, and therefore, makes my opionion biased, but just the same I was not surprised in the slightest bit to find out that most Arabs in my community know:
    – the US gave Osama bin Laden BILLIONS and gave him expert CIA training on how to bring oppresors to their knees
    – the US unoffically gave Saddam financial and military aid to help aid him on his war against the Iranians
    – only a few years later, the US gives Iran weopons and the means to help murder Iraqis
    -George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice and so on were at one point or another senior execs. at oil companies.

    The point I’m trying to make is this, if we are going to solve this problem as diplomatically as possible, it is absurd to assume that Iraqis dispise the Americans merely for their way of life and/or occupation. I assume that at one point the majority of Iraqis might’ve felt liberated, might have even felt respect for their invaders, more or less, but as Les implied, this is quickly diminishing. The absence of power, water, and jobs can really change one’s view on the whole scene. We need to accept our past shortcomings as acknowledge them. Think of the political power a simple offical apology or voice of regret of the US’s not so secert past w/Iran and Iraq might have? Rather we will stick by our word and subsequent mission: Iraqi freedom, at any costs, so long as that freedom means the placement of yet another US political puppet such as Noriega or Shan (think I got it right, the old dictator implanted by the US in Iran, pls tell me if I got it wrong smile. But making note of old mistakes isn’t proper, and maybe even, un-American.

    So until we see a complete 180 change in foreign policy and media slandering on both sides, we can assume it will only get worse and worse. Furthermore, it may come as little surprise that a militia Shia army is already in the making with a self-appointed young cleric at the head of it. Offically, they are an army of patriots,dedicated to the rebuilding of Iraq. Unoffically, you can bet their motive is to remove American pressence or simply bleed them out. This is the US army however, and even with its supposed 1 million volunteers, this arising miltia has quite the task ahead of them. If the US doesn’t commit to the seriousness of this situation and take the proper measures needed to get things done correctly and quickly, we are likely to see more hatred, more unrest in the Mid-east, and ofcourse, more death. This half-assed operation will bite Bush and Blair in this ass if they don’t smarten up and give it everything they’ve got, and I have every reason to believe that they won’t. I pity Bush, for history will not look on him as favorably as the majority of us do right now. Some big mistakes are being made, and I fear this “war on terror” is truly just beginning.

    Whadda you think? Be critical and honest, I would find it intresting to get a better understanding of how much the Americans think they know of the Arabs, and vice versa.

    So long for now, and no matter what ANYONE says, never, ever, eat the waxed tadpole.
    MSA

  6. Well, what a wonderful situation. Afghanistan is in ruins: the oil pipeline is being established. Kids play in rubble infested with un-exploded cluster bombs. War lords are systematically kidnapping women and children to do what they damn well please with them. 60% of the population is in severe poverty. Bush thinks that ‘they have been liberated’.
    Iraq is turning into another Vietnam and so long as American soldiers keep returning in body bags, our only hope is that that fascist bastard of an excuse for an American president may be voted out of office. Great, how many lives on both sides of the Atlantic have to die before the blinkers are removed?
    As a non-American, it seems that the American public are not being informed of the truth. They are being kept from it because it would be an immediate threat to the present government. We have (the UK) dailly programs illustrating the global intereference by the US government, past and present. The vast majority of the British public was against the invasion of Iraq – we saw the biggest demonstrations in British history and yet our leader did not listen.
    The hatred towards the west from Islamic countries is probably at an all time high – millions are signing up to be martyrs for the anti west cause. I as a free speaking westener have been dragged into a long term hatred of us without my consent or preventative power. We should have left the middle east alone, instead we are in an intractible quagmire that has been caused by power hungry politicians who have a moral self righteousness equal to those responsible for 9/11. The only difference between our terrorism and theirs is that ours is delivered through armies, flags and vested interest clouded in a mist of propaganda and lies.
    I wish you luck my American friends (those who see the reality) in awaking the blind and hypocritical imperialists.

  7. You are all blind morons who believe you see something that others do not, and yet you are still bound by the lies and coercive feats of these Imperial bastards.

  8. Hi, if you receive HML format you’ll get the pictures and they help tell the story, if not oh well.

    [A whole bunch of random nonsense deleted]

  9. I just knew Tom Ridge would drop by eventually.

    Wonder if Bush calls him ‘The Count’?

  10. <objecting to what I have to say.

    Few replies, well who’da thunk it? Most anyone who invested the time to read the whole thing (I myself only scanned it) are probably still trying to figure out how the father fucking homosexual wiccans, the outdoor masturbaters, strange weather patterns and electronic televised brainwashing have to do with each other. I imagine it is probably a masonic plot or maybe funded by the Illuminati but since I have missed the last three meetings of Satanists in the Bohemian Grove I am a little out of the loop. Please let me know when the made for electronic brainwashing movie comes out.

  11. I’ve edited that response down to the only sentence which made any sense purely for my own sanity. That was just ridiculous.

  12. Believe me, you didn’t miss out on much.

    OK, that’s not entirely true. You missed out on a LOT, but a lot that didn’t add up to much.

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