Virgin Mary image appears on a fence post. Religious-types freak out.

Posted by Les on Friday, January 31, 2003 at 03:36 PM. Read 10494 times. Tags: , , , ,
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Seems the folks down in Australia are getting a little of the old holy-image-appears-on-random-object-Christians-start-acting-like-total-whack-jobs fun of their own as of late. So says The Sydney Morning Herald:

Hundreds of believers flocked to the Coogee Beach headland yesterday to witness what they say is an apparition of the Virgin Mary.

Scores more hiked up the cliff path to touch, kiss and pray to the post which over the past few days has been transformed into something of a shrine, with pictures of the virgin, rosary beads and flowers piled around the white-washed fence.

Some wept, others sang, most prayed. As the sunlight reflected off a crook in the fence throughout the afternoon, hundreds claimed they could discern the shape of a veiled figure, and most agreed it was “Our Lady”.

They kissed a fence post?! Do they not realize that dogs tend to urinate on fence posts? I suppose that’s a little better than rubbing their naked asses against it.

This is one of those things about Christians that I just don’t understand. First off, why would Jesus and his Mother spend so much time drawing pictures of themselves into various random objects such as trees, fence posts, office building windows, or whatever other random inanimate object happens to be around at the time when they could do a much better job of letting people know they really exist by, say, materializing in the middle of the Today show set and performing an undeniable miracle such as making Al Roker actually interesting, or at least entertaining, to watch? Huh? Is that too much of a miracle for the King of Kings to pull off? I realize I’m asking a lot here.

No, instead we get nothing but pathetic doodles that have less artistic merit than something produced by a blind epileptic quadriplegic. Artistically speaking, Jesus should stick to turning water into wine and leave the art stuff to the professionals.

Secondly (yeah, I did have more questions), why the hell when one of these shoddy self-portraits appear do all the Christians in the immediate vicinity feel they have to:

A) rush immediately to the site in question
B) touch, rub, kiss, fondle, molest, pray, cry, or faint
C) generally make a nuisance of themselves?

They do that by clogging streets, leaving various “gifts” (someone eventually has to pick that shit up), trampling people’s lawns and just generally not doing anything productive or important despite all the problems they cause by being there. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

When was the last time you heard of a bunch of Jews freaking out because a vague image of some holy figure of their’s showed up on someone’s kreplach? How the last time you heard about a load of Muslims spazzing because one of them saw the face of Mahomet appear in the pattern of the wood grain of some random door someplace? You never hear about that sort of thing.

Occasionally the Hindus will make a big deal out of a statue of one of their various Gods they have supposedly drinking milk, but that’s about the only other religious group I can think of that has anything close to what the Christians are constantly reporting and it’s about a dumb as the idea of Jesus drawing bad pictures of himself everywhere.

Whatever. There are days when I’m feeling particularly evil that I just know there’s a great set of pranks to be pulled using this affinity of Christians to practically wet themselves over this sort of thing. One of these days I may have to see if I can pull it off.

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kat United States Posted on 01/31/2003 at 07:20 PM

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yeah, we had some rust stain on the side of a bank a few years back. you should a seen the hoopla. i’m like, thats rust your kissing and rubbing. can’t ya tell by the orange tint its leaving on yo dumbass fingers?...lol nice post and let me know how the trick goes when you do it.

MAL~ Canada Posted on 01/31/2003 at 09:19 PM

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nice….lolol

usuckgood dick New Zealand (Aotearoa) Posted on 02/02/2003 at 04:37 AM

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to the webmaster,

you are a stupid idiot, are u gay, u must be the saddest prick on earth, cause atheists have a shorter life, becuase u believe in dog shit, ...
thats all i have 2 say…

by the way… your boyfriend forget his handbag at your mums house..

Les United States Posted on 02/02/2003 at 09:29 AM

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And here we have another excellent example of the teachings of Jesus. Let’s take this point by point:

you are a stupid idiot

No, I’m a Stupid Evil Bastard. Didn’t you read the name of the website? Get your facts straight.

are u gay

Is that a question or a statement? It’s phrased as a question despite the lack of a question mark, but then it doesn’t look like punctuation or spelling are your hallmarks. Either way the answer is no, I am not gay. Though I do know a couple of gay people who think I’d make a perfectly wonderful gay man. At the time of this writing, however, I’m still heterosexual. Which probably is a big relief to my wife.

u must be the saddest prick on earth

No, that would probably be your English teacher. Whom after reading your entry here will probably shoot herself in the head in utter despair at the futility of it all.

cause atheists have a shorter life

Ah! Something close to a statement that might actually be something that can be discussed and debated. What do you base this conclusion on? Is there some study of comparative life spans between believers and non-believers that you’ve read (I realize that’s a big assumption on my part) that you can quote for this statement? Or are you just saying that because you wish it were true?

becuase u believe in dog shit

Don’t have to believe in it. I’ve stepped in it enough times to know it exists without the need for faith. Perhaps if I stepped into a big pile of Jesus a few times I could know that he exists just as easily. Got any big piles of Jesus laying around?

thats all i have 2 say…

Not surprising. Probably took you most of the day to come up with such witty and insightful commentary. You must be exhausted. You poor thing.

by the way… your boyfriend forget his handbag at your mums house..

Don’t tell my wife.

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Hamish New Zealand (Aotearoa) Posted on 02/02/2003 at 10:44 PM

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My mother saw a vision of the Virgin Mary once only and she’s the sanest person I know.  My aunt saw the devil and she said that it was so repulsive that when she looked in the mirror she expected her hair would have turned white. Too many normal ordinary people see these things so you’re wasting your time dismissing them - it’s you that will be having a permanent vision with the devil - and good luck with him - you’re going to need it.  If you’re not careful you’ll wake up too late.  Good luck to you!

Les United States Posted on 02/03/2003 at 05:32 AM

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Having intelligence is no guarantee you won’t believe in weird things. There are a lot of highly intelligent people who still manage to fall victim to scams and con-artists.

Not to belittle your mother’s intelligence, but there are many relatively smart people who believe they’ve been abducted by UFOs or have seen Big Foot or the Loch Ness Monster or leprechauns or the Moth Man. You’re right, a lot of normal ordinary people see and hear all sorts of strange things. Should I believe all of them too because they seem to be otherwise reasonably intelligent?

I can look up at the clouds and see what appears to be a teddy bear. Does that mean that some unknown force put the image of a teddy bear in the clouds at that particular moment for me to look up and see it or does it mean my brain is recognizing patterns in the chaos and trying to impose some sort of order where there is none?

I agree that I am wasting my time dismissing these apparitions because the faithful will continue to kiss their fenceposts and rub their asses against the statues anyway. As for me and the devil, well, it’s hard to be afraid of something you don’t believe exists.

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Paul Australia Posted on 02/03/2003 at 10:07 PM

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Les, i live in Sydney, Australia. Today my father and I went to Coogee to see whether there really is an apparition of the Virgin Mary. I must tell you, I most certainly did see a figure and it appeared to be the Virgin Mary herself. Hundreds of people visit this site every day now for this specific reason. Even if it is an optical illusion as some people claim, i think it is a great thing for Christianity and the faith of Christians.

I also must say that i was speaking to a shopkeeper that owns a laundrette directly in view of the apparition. He has been there for many years, along with the fence post. Yet, the apparition began to appear only 2 months ago. Years with the exact same fence, the exact same shopkeeper directly in line of sight with the fence and the apparition only began to appear 2 months ago.

Now you may not believe in it and we are not forcing you to believe. However, you directly mock Christians for their beliefs, and I dont agree with what you do. You can hold your own opinion, but when you try to put accross that opinion in a blatant attempt to disgrace Christians, I find that really disgusting.

Perhaps you should try to be more tolerant of religions and belief systems.

ciao.

Les United States Posted on 02/04/2003 at 04:56 AM

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Les, i live in Sydney, Australia. Today my father and I went to Coogee to see whether there really is an apparition of the Virgin Mary. I must tell you, I most certainly did see a figure and it appeared to be the Virgin Mary herself. Hundreds of people visit this site every day now for this specific reason. Even if it is an optical illusion as some people claim, i think it is a great thing for Christianity and the faith of Christians.

Well I’m sure the publicity is great for Christianity, but I don’t know if it’s really all that great for Christians as it just perpetuates a belief in the absurd.

I also must say that i was speaking to a shopkeeper that owns a laundrette directly in view of the apparition. He has been there for many years, along with the fence post. Yet, the apparition began to appear only 2 months ago. Years with the exact same fence, the exact same shopkeeper directly in line of sight with the fence and the apparition only began to appear 2 months ago.

Or perhaps he only just noticed it two months ago. My aunt lived in a house for years which had a door that I always saw some sort of face in the wood pattern. She never noticed it until I pointed it out one day. The “face in the wood” then creeped her out for years to come. Now how come she never noticed it until I pointed it out?

The big problem I have with all of this is a simple question no one ever bothers to ask whenever an image of “Jesus” or “Mary” shows up: How do you know it’s them? Almost all of these supposed images look surprisingly like various

Western interpretations

of what these two people would look like, but we don’t actually KNOW what these two people look like. Biblical and anthropological scholars pretty much agree that the current popular concept of what Jesus looks like, what I call the “Hippie Jesus”, with his stoner beard and long hair and his Western anglo-saxon features probably isn’t even remotely close to what the man would have looked like had he existed. Yet unfailingly that’s the image that always appears in these supposed miracles.

Same with Mary, the popular image is totally Westernized and based on bad preconceptions of what she should look like that probably bear no resemblance to what she really looked like if she had existed, yet amazingly all of her apparitions look just like the Western concept as well. No one ever brings up the ridiculousness of this simple fact.

In Hawaii’s Black Gorge there’s a lava flow that looks like the profile of late former President John F. Kennedy. Some can see it in the photo I just linked to, some can’t. I can see it. Does this mean that God felt the need to honor JFK by putting his likeness into a lava flow in Hawaii? Or does it mean the pattern recognition areas of our brains are trying to put order where there is chaos and make a recognizable image out of what is just a normal lava flow? The answer depends on how much you buy into the idea of God and how much you know about how your brain processes the overwhelming amount of information it has to take in at once.

Now you may not believe in it and we are not forcing you to believe. However, you directly mock Christians for their beliefs, and I dont agree with what you do. You can hold your own opinion, but when you try to put accross that opinion in a blatant attempt to disgrace Christians, I find that really disgusting.

I’m not mocking Christians for their beliefs, I’m mocking them for acting like mindless idiots over an optical illusion. The same way I mock the UFO nuts every time they wet themselves over a crop circle, which have been known and shown to be man-made for years now. I don’t have to attempt to disgrace Christians, they do a fine enough job of that on their own. Particularly the Catholics these days. If you find me pointing out how silly and stupid some Christians act to be disgusting, then I suggest you don’t read too much of my site or you’ll become physically ill.

Perhaps you should try to be more tolerant of religions and belief systems.

Buddy, you’ll probably be hard pressed to find someone more tolerant of religions and belief systems. I have yet to advocate that anyone who claims to have had a “personal discussion with God” be locked up as schizophrenic. I haven’t suggested that any and all religions should be banned and their patrons burned at the stake as heretics. I’ve never launched a Crusade against another religious belief system, or an Inquisition. I’ve never flown planes into a building to kill those of another faith. I’m all for freedom of religion in my country because I’d rather that one religious group doesn’t end up becoming the only one. You don’t see me in the streets burning Bibles simply because I feel they are full of disgusting stories of rape, sodomy, murder, incest, and other wonderful concepts.

I draw the line at tolerating stupid people doing stupid things. You have every right to be a clueless dumbass if you want to, but I have every right to tell you what a clueless dumbass I think you are. Can’t handle that? Then why the hell did you come to a website called Stupid Evil Bastard?

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Eric Paulsen United States Posted on 02/04/2003 at 10:06 PM

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Once when I was listening to Pink Floyd’s “the Wall” I saw a little wooden pull toy dog with pointy toothpick teeth quacking like a duck in the weave of the carpet, and I laughed and laughed. It was then that I realized the acid had kicked in…

dave vandale Canada Posted on 02/06/2003 at 04:26 PM

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I am a catholic,but why would the virgin mary appear
on a fence post really? Who has a picture of the virgin mary in their wallet to compare.I could pick up a potato and fall on my knees because i think it looks like jesus but i’ve never seen jesus so how would know its a jesus potato?All i’ve got to say about that is “quit smokin’ that kangaroo dung”!
you are hallucinating.GIVE IT A REST.did’nt someone from australia get abducted recently to thiaoouba
not long ago?and came back with a dire message for humanity from a bunch of homophrodites telling us to change our ways or we’ll all perish.money is the root of all evil and blah,blah,blah,blah!and what religion is more tied up with earthly mareial matters than the catholic church?

dave vandale Canada Posted on 02/06/2003 at 04:48 PM

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Just yesterday I had this huge dump after i was done
i inadvertantly glanced in the toilet and the devil was looking up at me.So i flushed the motherfucker back from whence he came.But i didn’t wipe my ass because i needed some proof of what had happened my priest called it the demon of all dumps.Everyone in my home town is coming to check my ass out.

Dok Australia Posted on 02/09/2003 at 06:03 AM

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I too live in Sydney and am quite amazed that a fence can suddenly become such a marvel. People just need to believ in stupid shit and religion is the number 1 belief fix around. Anyone who’s ever taken LSD will attest to how many faces there are in everyday objects that we never see untill they are pointed out.

I wan’t to make up a t-shirt of the fence with the words “It’s just a fence you stupid morons” printed under it.

phil Australia Posted on 02/09/2003 at 06:25 AM

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May God forgive you, and may he one day open your eyes to the truth. I am a christian (catholic), few years back i was living like many young christians today, a life of sin and away from God, until i saw and experienced something extraordinary. My cousin mary (19 yrs) was diagnosed with cancer, doctors gave her a few month to live. Her mother is a strong catholic believer, she prayed the rosary day and night, she prayed and cried to the blessed virgin mary asking her to have mercy on her daughter and bless her. I was there in the hospital all the time, i saw the pain and suffering, i could not help but cry myself. During her last days my cousin mary had a dream. In her dream she saw our lady the virgin mary come to her room in the hospital and sat beside her on the bed. Our lady looked at her and smiled, she then touched my cousin mary and told her that she will be fine. Two days later doctors examined her again, boy were shoched!, they were baffled!! they could not believe it!! With there science & medicine they could not save my cousin nor could they understand how she had recovered 100% from cancer, after the cancer had spread all over her body. You can choose to be a believer, or a non-believer, I witnessed the whole thing.

I myself was a non-practicing catholic christian and i will admit that i had little faith. I used to ask questions like those athiests like “how can God allow this or that to happen?“, But obviously God did not create us as pupets so that he can control & manipulate our lives, he loves us dearly so he gave us freedom and individuality. If we choose to hurt and kill each other, then that is our work and the work of the evil one, Not God. The evil one is the one who brings temptations, illnesses, accidents, evil dowings, etc. God brings joy, love and happiness. We can pray and ask our father in heavin to help us, guide us, protect us, enlighten us, etc, so that we can overcome our problems.

This experience among other similar experiences i have heard from other people has made me do a 180 degrees in my life. I now go to mass every sunday, and try my best to live like a true christian, the way our ancestors lived many years ago, a life of humility, pray and faith. Before i was lost, I feel so much better now knowing that i’m with christ and his with me all the way. Trust me its never too late to swing it back. Its worth it!! God loves all of us, sinners, non-sinners, christians, jews, moslems, black, white, etc. He demonstrated his love for us when he sent Jesus. Jesus came for us, to save us because we are sinners, so that we don’t burn in hell. He suffered for us because he loves us dearly, he was spat on, humiliated, nailed to a cross, and suffered an excruciating and horrible death. All for us, so that when we die we don’t goto hell for our sins, because he has already paid the ultimate price for our sins. That is true love!! How can you not love Jesus? If you open your heart search for him you will find him. Save yourself before its too late.

God bless. +

dave v Canada Posted on 02/10/2003 at 09:27 PM

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Phil, read the bible i mean really read the bible.If indeed jesus has paid the ultimate price for our sins,how come christians are still born to sin and have to be baptised to expunge it.Adam and eve the only two people on earth if you believe the genesis theory we’re tempted and deceived by Satan formerly an archangel in heaven our loving god says because adam and eve sinned all of humanity from then on must pay the price for their weakness,how fair is that?All they did was eat the forbidden fruit.God made us imperfect in his image therefore he is also imperfect.He made us susceptible to temptation then tells us see that scrumptious apple
dangling on the tree of knowledge looks yummy dosen’t it?But don’t eat it, i’m looking away now.
you bad human you ate it when i expressly forbade you to do it now you have to wear clothes and have sex with you relatives to populate the earth with more sinners like yourself.Incest is okay for now until there are enough people on earth then it will
be a heinous sin against nature,enjoy for now!Why didn’t God just forgive them,or just start from scratch until nobody touched the apple?For that matter destroy that nasty apple tree and banish it to apple hell.Steven king couldn’t have written a better script WAKE UP Phil its a fairy tale. 
 

divadnavelad Canada Posted on 02/10/2003 at 09:33 PM

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Phil,Is it just a coincidence that your cousin is named mary.maybe she is the one sitting on the fence post in australia! did you perchance get abducted by aliens from thiaoouba you know the homophrodites from
the pleiades!

Les United States Posted on 02/10/2003 at 10:05 PM

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Phil, buddy, may God give you a better story, please. Do all you Catholics use the same script or something? I’ve heard that tale at least two dozen times over the years and it always brings a tear to my eye.

As for the image of the Holy Mother, well, I just put up a new entry on that very subject, this time with pictures.

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divadnavelad Canada Posted on 02/12/2003 at 09:43 AM

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phil,let me guess you are a reformed doper,right? who recently found god on one of your ‘trips’ and brought back a message for the rest of us who have a fear of ‘flying’.You should give your cousin Mary more credit because she,if she really exists and is not one of your hallucinatory companions you brought back with you had the mental fortitude to fight off this disease on her own.Don’t you think if god and all the people (spirits)in vallhalla could divinely intervene like they supposedly did pre biblical that they would have put an end to war and disease and children starving,and the corruption in the catholic church,the vatican is the most corrupt organization in the world.Again i ask you phil,wake up or at the very least shut up fork rice aches!

Eric Paulsen United States Posted on 02/12/2003 at 10:55 AM

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Of course the Christian response to that is that god works in mysterious ways, but putting aside the eradication of disease or war for a second I guarantee that I would crap my pants and go back to church if I ever saw one single incontrovertible miracle occur. The problem with miracles is the same as with the holy fence post, they are subject to individual intrepetation. When I look at the blurry photo I see a big foam ‘we’re number one!‘ finger that drunken idiots wear at sporting events, When Phil’s cousin Mary beat the cancer I see medicine and human perseverance.

However if I press my thumb into my left eye and squint with my right I can see a monkey in a bowler hat doing the hustle with bigfoot. Or maybe the charleston…

divadnavelad Canada Posted on 02/12/2003 at 03:25 PM

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to: Eric Paulsen,God works in mysterious ways,when he works,after putting in a strenuous six day stretch creating the earth,the universe,humanity,the bugs,the animals,fishes of the sea, he took time off and just never bothered to come back.
Phil,whats the matter cat got your tongue,(keyboard?)

divadnavelad Canada Posted on 02/12/2003 at 08:51 PM

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Les,i saw the pictures you posted of the BVM.Now i totally believe that fence post mary is a hoax.They almost had me there for a minute.While growing up pictures and statues have always depicted the bvm wearing a blue veil and a halo,this apparition wears only white no halo.And why a wooden fence and not chain link which is more conducive to ghostly apparitions?Those aussies should contact Steve Irwin
to do a excorsism.She’s gorgeous,absolutely gorgeous.

divadnavelad Canada Posted on 02/13/2003 at 02:15 PM

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ANYBODY…What kind of God would send his only son on a suicide mission to earth to save humanity from itself?
Having said that,where did son of god come from?Who is Mrs.God? Does humanity seem saved to you?

linds Australia Posted on 03/11/2003 at 07:21 PM

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Les,
All i have to say is that Christians who you refer to Don’t belive in the Virgin Mary , it’s the Catholics that do and i am a Catholic , and i say these few words to you Les and others that are like you.
You call me the way, But you do not follow me.
You call me the light ,But you don’t see me.
You call me the teacher,but you don’t listen to me.
You call me the Lord,but you don’t serve me.
You call me the truth,but you don’t belive me.
Don’t be surprised if one day i don’t know you.
Good luck Les.

Les United States Posted on 03/12/2003 at 05:07 AM

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Actually all Christians believe in the Virgin Mary. The Catholics are just the only branch that tends to worship her like she were a minor Deity herself. As for your poem, well, that’s great and all but I don’t do any of the things you mention in that poem because I don’t believe in the existence of God(s). I don’t call God anything other than a fairytale left over from a more primitive time. Thanks for sharing though.

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SK Australia Posted on 04/28/2003 at 06:42 PM

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It is good to question so you can learn, but your questions go too far. Let those who believe in these visions believe and keep your doubts to yourself.

Les United States Posted on 04/28/2003 at 08:37 PM

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I’d argue that my questions haven’t gone far enough. Not that it matters. Nothing I say is going to convince these fools that the fence post isn’t the Virgin Mary trying to deliver a message of peace. If they want to sit around praying and kissing a fence I reserve the right to make fun of them for their foolishness.

This is my website where I talk about whatever I want to talk about. If you don’t like it, don’t come back, but don’t tell me to keep my doubts to myself. I’ll just tell you to kiss my ass.

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