A post on the Hobbit, Evolution, Religion and the Devil… with a tinge of cannibalism.

Posted by Pop Tarts on Friday, October 29, 2004 at 12:39 PM. Read 788 times. Tags:
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A short while ago a new species of human (Homo floresiensis) was discovered on the island of Flores. And it is believed that this species existed as recently as 12,000 years ago. This article on the BBC News website raises really interesting questions: If such a species is still alive somewhere in some corner, what would be the ramifications? Because of its size it has been nicknamed the Hobbit.

1) Would this species be treated as a human or an advanced chimp?
If for example this species possess the power of language then there is a strong probability that it will be treated as a form of human. And if so…

2) Would this “Hobbit” be the evolutionary crown jewel?
That would show that humans belong in the animal kingdom and that humans are really not that unique.

3) Other interesting points raised are:
If you kill a Hobbit it would be murder and if you experimented on one it would be torture. If you eat one it would be cannibalism.
Or what if the Hobbit has a form of religion or maybe just a ritual for burial? Then, I wonder, can a human marry a Hobbit?

4) And finally to quote the article:
“In theory, the existence of Mini-Man should destroy religion, but I can already hear the fanatics claiming that he has been put on earth by the Devil simply to test our faith.”

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***Dave United States Posted on 10/29/2004 at 02:54 PM

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How about “None of the above?” for the final comment.  I don’t have any problem incorporating the idea of intelligent fellow hominids into my religious beliefs.  I may be uniquely broadminded, but suspect there’s a large middle ground between “These creatures prove religion is false” and “These creatures are a test of the Devil.”

Brooks United States Posted on 10/29/2004 at 03:42 PM

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It’s like those religious fanatics have an answer for EVERYTHING.

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sungoddess Great Britain (UK) Posted on 10/29/2004 at 06:15 PM

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Oh gosh… just came to read and we posted about the same article… yours is more creative though! I defer…

grey United States Posted on 10/30/2004 at 09:27 AM

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i’m an atheist, therefore i believe in human evolution over hundreds of thousands of years.  i’ve known some theists that believe in human evolution as well.  they rationalize the
‘7 day creation thang’ as having been stretched over a longer period of time.  they believe this and still hold on to their faith.  hey, whatever helps you get through the day, bub.  some people choose alcohol, but many more choose religion.

i find it amusing when creationists look hard evidence in the mouth and respond with anger.  you can be spiritual and believe in evolution if you like.  but it’s foolish to deny hard evidence of where we actually came from to hold on to an idea that we’re fucking special.  responding with anger is a sign of weekness of conviction.  for those ‘zealots’ that do this, i suggest you get a bottle because you can’t deny the truth forever.

Eggman United States Posted on 10/30/2004 at 11:11 AM

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2) Would this “Hobbit� be the evolutionary crown jewel?
That would show that humans belong in the animal kingdom and that humans are really not that unique.

Why would homosapiens NOT be considered part of the animal kingdom? Is this science or modern human ‘center of the universe’ conceit?

grey United States Posted on 10/30/2004 at 11:30 AM

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you got it.  one word -egocentrism.  that and it doesn’t fit in nicely with prominent religious teachings

Slick United States Posted on 10/30/2004 at 12:27 PM

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I for one welcome our Hobbit brethren.  I’ll just wait around until they find Troll, Orc, Elven, and Dwarven skeletons and prove that Tolkein’s books were actually a historical account of old, forgotten times and not mere fantasy.  wink

Seriously though, this is really, really cool.  cheese

American Kiwi United States Posted on 10/30/2004 at 03:07 PM

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I prefer the write up in the New Zealand Press.

Here

Brock United States Posted on 10/30/2004 at 06:15 PM

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Given the way we humans act, is there really any doubt that we are members of the animal kingdom?

Good analogy, Eggman.

Larkinsjapn Japan Posted on 10/31/2004 at 05:18 AM

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Brock, you’ve hit that nail straight through the fucking board!! Humans show all the group sophistication of Jackals or Hyenas on a good day.
On a bad day we are in a class by ourselves!
Homo Sapiens wiped out all our brother bipeds, or they evolved some really kickass ways of hiding themselves in plain sight.
It is a really sad thing to see a discovery like this in play as either proving or disproving someones personal religion!!
Eggman in the Religion I grew up in we are not in the center of the universe and we were supposed to balance our spiritual nature with the rational nature of the universe. Science not superstition was the key to advancing humankind. The problem now I think is the fact that the old guys don’t want to let go of their power.

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