The Good Ol’ Boys

Posted by Neodromos on Friday, September 22, 2006 at 10:35 PM. Read 1062 times. Tags:
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In the Law Enforcement community, we stress that deadly force is a ALWAYS a last resort. In point of fact, we have what is known as a Force Continuum or Ladder of Force which we follow precisely. Verbal Commands, Physical Apprehension and Restraint Techniques, Handcuffs, Riot Control Agents, Police Baton, Military Working Dogs, Other DoD Approved Non-lethal Weapons, and finally, Firearms. Of course, we can skip steps if need be. After all, we are an entirely reactive force. You fuck with us, well, stand by to stand by.

Anyway, there was a radio adverstisement that seems to have caused quite an uproar in Houston these past couple of weeks and although I believe deadly force should be a last resort, I support the broadcasters opinion. The article can be found here and to put a finer point on it, it is about an advertisement from a Houston Gunshop Owner who appealed to Houston residents to arm themselves against Hurrican Katrina Evacuees.

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t support such a move, but given the rise in the Houston crime rate since their arrival and the startling fact that Katrina victims were involved in almost 1/5 of the homicides in Houston last year, well, I support the man. Not only that, there is an interview cited which states that an evacuee went on record to say that if his government checks didn’t continue, he would most likely become a criminal. The article is a good read and I suggest you check it out if you have the time.

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Consigliere United States Posted on 09/28/2006 at 12:30 AM

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Only fireable with the right fingerprint squeezing the trigger. This tech should be put into place on ALL guns...and all is right with the world.

One would think the gun industry would go gonzo over this.  It would create a limited life for guns as once the owner died the gun is no good anymore.  In addition, it would also require every father to actually purchase a new gun for their son/daughter whom they are teaching to hunt thereby creating additional gun sales.

Gun manufacturers making more money and the elimination of the shotgun as an heirloom, not so much a fan of that.

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Lobo United States Posted on 09/28/2006 at 02:51 AM

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I am now racist because of what?

Because you accepted a claim by a gun shop owner that, at the very least, is brimming with racist subtext.  Instead of questioning that issue you just accepted that you should have a gun because the Katrina evacuees are violent welfare kings/queens.  You didn’t consider whether they were actually a threat to you.  You didn’t have an ounce of empathy about THEIR situation.  You didn’t consider all of the societal stresses that could cause this situation.  You just heard some variation on the words “gun control” and a switch flipped in your head, loosing a whole slew of lizard-brain reactions to a perceived threat.

Listen, all of us white folks are racist to some extent.  We can’t help it because we live in an inherently racist society.  Almost one hundred and fifty years after slavery and nearly fifty years after Civil Rights, it’s still better to be born a white man in this country.  It’s an institutional advantage that we can’t help but benefit from.  What we can do is recognize it, acknowledge it and do our best to not contribute to it.

That’s why I confront it when I see it as bluntly as I can.  It’s far better to acknowledge and try to understand the negative aspects of yourself than it is to pull into a turtle shell when someone suggests that you might be acting like a racist.  Matter of fact, white folks confronted with their own racism are equally as vehement in their denials as theists are when confronted with non-belief.  Instead of looking at their behavior they’d rather just clam up and scream about the mean person making them uncomfortable.

The race issue is blown entirely out of proportion.

No, the race issue is merely uncomfortable for the people who have benefitted from it.

while statistics can be misleading, they do not lie and the statistics for Lousianna show a predominantly African American population and one of the highest crimes rates in the country. I ask, what does that tell you?

Tells me that christianity is responsible for a whole lot of crime.  After all, Louisianna is also one of the most devoutly christian states.  And it’s bullshit that statistics don’t lie.  Any dataset can be used to say anything the person using it wants.  What statistics don’t show you is the story behind them.  A “Just the Facts” mentality is crap.  Without context, statistics are regularly used to justify some of the stupidest things we’ve ever done as a nation.

Hunkering down and getting guns when you hear the brown folks are coming to steal your stuff and sully your daughters is no way to fix the problem.  It’s no way to understand what’s going on around you.  It’s silo mentality bullshit.

Instead of hiding behind the statistics rationalization, examine what you think and why you think it.  Challenge yourself to look behind the curtain and drive out those ugly little roaches camping out in your brainpan.

Lobo United States Posted on 09/28/2006 at 03:05 AM

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It’s something you can’t escape so what matters is whether you recognize when you’re letting those prejudices rule your better judgment and what you do about it.

I agree.  But I would take it one step further and suggest not turning a blind eye to the kind of racism that the radio ad was espousing.  Remaining passive does nothing to help.

It’s so blown out of proportion that you can’t have an honest discussion about it without half the people involved being labeled as racist and if you’re a white male your chances of being labeled racist are pretty high regardless of how deserving you are of the label.

Considering that we are racist, I fail to see why someone using the label is problematic.  What us white folks have to realize is that we don’t really have the necessary perspective to discuss racism.  We simply don’t know what the hell we’re talking about because we have no honest point of reference on the issue.  We’ve always seen it through the eyes of the majority.  No matter how bad you think you have it as a white man you still have a leg up on a black man in the same situation.  It’s easy for a white guy to have a discussion about race.  All you have to do is realize that what you “know” is probably very wrong.  Instead, most people don’t want to talk about it because a small word makes them indescribably uncomfortable.

To deny that the black community has a number of problems the white community doesn’t that aren’t directly related to The Man trying to keep them down is dishonest,

And which problems would those be?  Seriously, I’m curious to know what problems they have that can’t be at least partially explained by living in a white man’s world.

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