“The Golden Compass” criticized as “atheism for kids.”

Posted by Les on Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 11:12 PM. Read 7531 times. Tags: , , , ,
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So have you seen the trailer yet for The Golden Compass? If not then here it is below:

Until I saw the trailer I’d never heard of the books the movie is based on — a trilogy called His Dark Materials — and the first time I saw the trailer I wrote it off as a Chronicles of Narnia wannabe. The only reason I might have had for seeing it in theaters is that Courtney was very excited about the movie. As it turns out, though, I may have to go see it out of my own curiosity now that I’ve learned that the books have a somewhat anti-organized religion tone to them and are written by an avowed atheist.

It seems the movie has been a cause of concern for our good friend and Catholic League president, Bill Donohue, prompting him to put out a press release advising parents not to take their kids to see the film:

“New Line Cinema and Scholastic Entertainment have paired to produce ‘The Golden Compass,’ a children’s fantasy that is based on the first book of a trilogy by militant English atheist Philip Pullman. The trilogy, His Dark Materials, was written to promote atheism and denigrate Christianity, especially Roman Catholicism. The target audience is children and adolescents. Each book becomes progressively more aggressive in its denigration of Christianity and promotion of atheism: The Subtle Knife is more provocative than The Golden Compass and The Amber Spyglass is the most in-your-face assault on Christian sensibilities of the three volumes.

“Atheism for kids. That is what Philip Pullman sells. It is his hope that ‘The Golden Compass,’ which stars Nicole Kidman and opens December 7, will entice parents to buy his trilogy as a Christmas gift. It is our hope that the film fails to meet box office expectations and that his books attract few buyers. We are doing much more than hoping—we are conducting a nationwide two-month protest of Pullman’s work and the film. To that end, we have prepared a booklet, ‘The Golden Compass: Agenda Unmasked,’ that tears the mask off the movie.

“It is not our position that the movie will strike Christian parents as troubling. Then why the protest? Even though the film is based on the least offensive of the three books, and even though it is clear that the producers are watering down the most despicable elements—so as to make money and not anger Christians—the fact remains that the movie is bait for the books. To be specific, if unsuspecting Christian parents take their children to see the movie, they may very well find it engaging and then buy Pullman’s books for Christmas. That’s the problem.

“We are fighting a deceitful stealth campaign on the part of the film’s producers. Our goal is to educate Christians so that they know exactly what the film’s pernicious agenda really is.”

Wow, anything that gets Bill’s panties in a bunch like that might be worth seeing, but as it turns out he’s quite right that the filmmakers have toned down the anti-religious aspects of the story somewhat. According to some folks it’s been watered down a bit too much:

Northern Lights, the book which first introduced readers to Pullman’s 12-year-old heroine, Lyra, is as dear to its many fans as JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings and JK Rowling’s Harry Potter saga, so tampering with the philosophical content is not likely to be welcomed when the film is released before Christmas.

While Pullman himself has said he believes ‘the outline of the story is faithful to what I wrote, given my knowledge of what they have done’, the National Secular Society - of which the author is an honorary associate - has now spoken out against the changes.

‘It was clear right from the start that the makers of this film intended to take out the anti-religious elements of Pullman’s book,’ said Terry Sanderson, president of the society. ‘In doing that they are taking the heart out of it, losing the point of it, castrating it. It seems that religion has now completely conquered America’s cultural life and it is much the poorer for it. What a shame that we have to endure such censorship here too.’

Kidman has said the critical stance of the film ‘has been watered down a little ... I was raised Catholic, the Catholic Church is part of my essence,’ she told film journalists in Australia in the summer. ‘I wouldn’t be able to do this film if I thought it were at all anti-Catholic.’
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At a preview of footage staged at the Cannes Film Festival in the spring, director Chris Weitz, best known for directing About A Boy, said the film would be a fair retelling of Pullman’s tale.

‘In the books the Magisterium is a version of the Catholic church gone wildly astray from its roots. If that’s what you want in the film, you’ll be disappointed,’ he admitted, but added: ‘We have expanded the range of meanings of what the Magisterium represents. Philip Pullman is against any kind of organised dogma whether it is church hierarchy or, say, a Soviet hierarchy.’

That’s disappointing to say the least, but as Bill Donahue points out there’s always a chance some kids will be inclined to pick up the books after seeing the movies. I’ll have to make a point of picking them up myself as well. The film is still causing enough concern among the Religious Right that several emails have been circulating around warning about its anti-Christian message. The email is cropping up often enough that the folks at Snopes.com already have an entry on them on their site. If nothing else it’s nice to see the other side get a little representation every so often.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 12:28 AM

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The HDM books are some of the best I’ve ever read in my life. I enjoyed them far more than the one Harry Potter book I’ve read.

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Neil T. Sweden Posted on 10/29/2007 at 04:27 AM

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Northern Lights, which is also called The Golden Compass, won the Carnegie Medal upon release and was recently selected by the Carnegie judges as being one of the 10 most important children’s books of the past 70 years.

So it’s not just anti-religious, it’s also a good read too.

Bog Brother United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 06:23 AM

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Poor Christians, always so persecuted.  Especially those Roman Catholics.  I mean really, just look at how poorly such Christian films as the Passion of the Christ and the Chronicles of Narnia did at the Box Office and on DVD.  They practically fell out of the theaters because so few people were viewing them.  Surely we can’t allow a viewpoint that opposes those hallowed principles to be voiced can we? Why if we let such a descent occur, we’ll be a virtual minority.  We certainly don’t wield the power we once did in the Good Old Days of the Middle Ages when the peasantry was poor, illiterate and completely ignorant, do we?  It’s obvious we need to return to those days in order to save the world from all the evil and sin that The Golden Compass represents.  We certainly don’t live in a country where freedom of speech is supposed to rule the day, and we certainly don’t have a majority of the population under our control.  Why, from the way we act, you would never believe we were the most powerful and influential voting block in the US and one of the most powerful organizations in the entire world, would you?

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Julian India Posted on 10/29/2007 at 06:58 AM

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Seconding Sadie’s opinion. Far superior to Harry Potter. Would highly recommend them to anyone....atheist or otherwise.

swordsbane United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 08:14 AM

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Looks like everybody and their mother wanted a part in this movie.  At least the acting will be good.

As for it’s anti-christian message, I must confess I haven’t read the books, but what I get from the trailer is the standard “It’s heresy to say things that are un-popular with the powers that be, even if they’re true.” and of course very important developments depend on bringing to light what the establishment would like to keep buried… and if it follows standard conventions, they already know about it so that makes the embarrassment of disclosure even more distasteful to them…

No… doesn’t sound like the catholic church at all smile

I’ll probably watch it because Sam Elliot is cool.

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zilch Austria Posted on 10/29/2007 at 09:11 AM

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My kids read and enjoyed the HDM series, and I liked them too.  Comparing them to Harry Potter is a bit like oranges and apples, because the HDM books are written with a more adult vocabulary and more adult themes.  They are also darker and more cynical.

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Matt J United Kingdom Posted on 10/29/2007 at 01:20 PM

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HDM is truly fantastic, and Philip Pullman is a brilliant author, and a pretty prominent atheist over here too. Richard Dawkins mentioned Philip Pullman’s imagining of how wheels could occur in animals through evolutionary processes. The animals have their four appendages in a triangular shape on their stomach. On the middle two, the animals place huge circular seed capsules produced by a tree. The capsules break open after a while, so the seeds within are taken great distances from their parent tree by the animals. The other key factor is the place in which the animals live is littered with basalt ‘roads’.

Webs United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 02:32 PM

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As soon as my coworker told me “If Harry Potter had not come out, this would have been the Harry Potter series people would have went crazy over”, I knew I should pick up the book and read it.

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zilch Austria Posted on 10/29/2007 at 02:37 PM

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As much as I love the HDM series, I don’t think it would have occupied the “Harry Potter niche”, if Rowling hadn’t come along: HDM is not as funny, heartwarming, and basically optimistic as HP.  This is not a judgement of value, but these are factors that helped make Rowling’s epic deservedly popular.

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Moloch United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 02:40 PM

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I’ve seen the preview before and I also wrote it off as another kids fantasy movie.

Now that I know a little more about it’s background, I’ll probably go see it.

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scenter United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 04:33 PM

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Bog Brother - Although Narnia is patently a Christian allegory, don’t be hasty in lumping Narnia in with Christianity completely, there are these Christians who disagree

Bog Brother United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 06:24 PM

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I think the majority of the Christian world might look upon those guys in the same way they look upon Fred Phelps...Though, when I was beating the Bible myself, I probably would have got right behind their roasting of CS Lewis. 

I guess it doesn’t ultimately matter though, they are just some of the worst of a bad bunch in my mind (Fred Phelps and the people at Jesus-is-savior.com). They just show their absolute adherence to dogma and absolute certainty that they are right on their sleeve, why most Christians seem to be more milquetoast and wishy washy about their beliefs when forced to face the absurdity of them. Perhaps that lukewarm attitude annoys me more than anything.

Whoah!  Sorry, gotta stop, my rant alert just went off!

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Last_Hussar United Kingdom Posted on 10/29/2007 at 07:36 PM

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I keep meaning to re-read NL (renamed for the US at GC). Didn’t really get into it first time round, though possibly I wasn’t ‘really reading’ it- just looking at the words as it were.

I know Pullman was worried that his anti religeon views may be edited out for the US ‘need a warm an fuzzy ending’ population.  I think he has possibly toned down his rhetoric so as not to harm the release, but from what I understand it ‘counter-religeon’ may be a better phrase.

If Christianity is so right, and God so powerful, why do some christians seem so unable to stand opposing view points?  I can only assume it’s because they don’t want to repeat the overconfidence of Grand Moff Tarkin.

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swordsbane United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 08:44 PM

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I just can’t understand when people get upset by these things claiming they’re dissing religion.  I don’t get upset at books and movies that PROMOTE Christian views, and if I did, I would be shouted down (rightly) by all those people who liked the book/movie.  But one story comes along that can maybe sort of be slightly considered anti-religious.... when the sun’s in your eyes and you’re standing on your head… not only does the story espouse “bad” moral values, but it’s a plot by anti-religious Satan worshippers to subvert our children to start sacrificing goats… Geeze.

And anyways, what are these “bad” morals that these stories are teaching us:  If you read the Harry Potter books, you might get the strange notion that bravery, honesty, friendship and loyalty are good things.... can’t have that can we?  WTF???  Because they have witches and wizards in them (just the words, mind you… the HP books don’t seem to support the witch stereotype.  They DO support the wizard stereotype, but then so does LOTR and many fantasy movies and books that the church doesn’t have any trouble with) they are automatically evil… no matter if they tell you to be a good person?  Makes no sense… but then I’ve seen this all of my adult life, and it never did make sense.  The only good thing this does is that because of the controversy, many people will go and see it just to see what the fuss is all about.  I suppose it’s that other little thing the church doesn’t like to talk about: Making up your own mind.

Next time a religious movie comes out, I think I’ll picket the theater.  That’ll show ‘em.

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Thriceberg United States Posted on 10/29/2007 at 09:13 PM

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I love this (about their booklet “The Golden Compass: Agenda Unmasked"):

It is important that all Christians, especially those with children or grandchildren, read this booklet.

Not important enough that we’re giving it away for free, but you know…

I want to print a booklet about their booklet:

You may think the purpose of “Agenda Unmasked” is to expose atheism in The Golden Compass, but it’s actual agenda--perpetrated by militant Catholic Bill Donohue--is to deliver Christian propaganda directly into the minds of our impressionable parents and grandparents.

Oh, the Christianity!

Julian India Posted on 10/29/2007 at 11:45 PM

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The books are not so much anti-religion or anti-church as much as anti-[christian theology].
As such I can understand why christian parents would be concerned about their children reading the books or watching the movies, as they really are quite insidious (from a christian PoV of course) and are bound to cause at least some people to rethink their faith.
Personally if I had children I don’t think I would encourage them to read Left Behind, or worse Narnia, so I kinda understand the christian reaction to the whole thing.
I agree with Zilch that if Harry Potter had never been published HDM would not have occupied its niche. However I think that HP has drawn away a lot of the backlash that otherwise would have been directed towards HDM. Unlike HP, HDM actually is potentially damaging to the christian faith.
Query: Is there any way to do the spoiler thing?

Bog Brother United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 06:30 AM

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Here’s how I see the whole “this book is a danger to our faith” thing. We all know what faith is supposed to be, evidence of things unseen.  You have faith in X, and that makes you a good Z. 

My assertion, and challenge to anyone out there who believes this is that your faith is weak.  You never want to face anything that challenges your faith, and certainly never seek any out.  How do you know your faith is strong if you never test it, and always run from or try to destroy anything that does challenge it.  If it was so strong, you should eagerly face things and then come away with even stronger faith, right?

However, I find that most people are just afraid of finding out that their faith is not right or real.  They say up front that it’s wrong to tempt god and stuff like that, but ultimately, they know their faith doesn’t really have any grounding in reality, and their deathly afraid that if they start questioning it, they won’t be able to find answers to those questions and they’ll lose that little mustard seed they had before they dared ask questions.

This book would be a great test of faith for anyone I suppose, especially if their kids read it.  If the right and good principles and beliefs you seek to instill your children with are so great, why not read the book with them if they express desire to read it (I am not suggesting giving them the book out of the blue or forcing it on them), or even easier, go see the movie when it comes out.  No doubt there will be questions, and you should be good and ready with answers to reinforce those precious tenets that are so important to you and your child’s proper upbringing.

Besides, if you don’t actively seek to strengthen your faith by facing things that challenge it, you WILL eventually be forced to face something that does just that.  However, if you bury your head in the sand and say that it’s all the devil’s doing rather than face anything and find answers to it, you will be totally unprepared when the really big thing is staring you in the face.

Of course, I hope anyone taking my advice will challenge themselves and as a result ultimately see things from my non-religious perspective, but from the religious point of view, that is sure they are right, there is no reason not to actively challenge your faith in order to make it stronger, is there?  No legitimate reason anyway.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 12:03 PM

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Friend of mine, an evangelical Christian, is huge into HDM books.  Will send this to him and see if he might contribute comments.

Bog Brother United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 12:57 PM

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I’m not sure if Snopes.com is really as reliable as everyone seems to think they are, and I unfortunately haven’t read the HDM books myself, but I find the seemingly slanted explanation/viewpoint that Snopes presents on this issue to be a bit suspect:

Phillip Pullman is an Atheist

Anybody else think they are being a little less than objective? 

Also, He is quoted as saying “My books are about killing God.” I haven’t been able to find the source of this quote to read it in context, but I have a feeling that there is some relevant context that is being left out there, anybody know more about that? (Like perhaps the real quote should read: “There are some who say my books are about killing God.”?)

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Cosmic Connie United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 06:32 PM

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Funny, I was just having a conversation with a friend the night before last about the status of the HDM movies. We’re both big fans of the books, and I’d thought the first movie was supposed to be out over a year ago. Anyway, it’s good to know the movies are coming out, but I too am a bit disappointed that the anti-religion message in the first film has been “softened.” But I still plan to see it.

By the way, I just discovered your blog today, SEB, and I’m glad I did!

Les United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 06:39 PM

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I’m not sure if Snopes.com is really as reliable as everyone seems to think they are, and I unfortunately haven’t read the HDM books myself, but I find the seemingly slanted explanation/viewpoint that Snopes presents on this issue to be a bit suspect:

Phillip Pullman is an Atheist

Anybody else think they are being a little less than objective? 

BB, how are they not being objective when it’s a known fact that, yes, Phil Pullman is an atheist?

Also, He is quoted as saying “My books are about killing God.” I haven’t been able to find the source of this quote to read it in context, but I have a feeling that there is some relevant context that is being left out there, anybody know more about that? (Like perhaps the real quote should read: “There are some who say my books are about killing God.”?)

Snopes lists off their sources at the end of every entry and a simple Google search will provide you with the source:

The shed where God died - SMH.au.com

In Pullman’s trilogy, Lyra is the new-age Eve, and Will is the modern-day Adam. God is a wizened spent force of an “Authority”. And “The Fall” is to be celebrated as the defining moment of mankind, rather than the source of all worldly evil. Little wonder that His Dark Materials has been denounced by some religious zealots.

Pullman, though, expected more. “I’ve been surprised by how little criticism I’ve got. Harry Potter’s been taking all the flak. I’m a great fan of J.K. Rowling, but the people - mainly from America’s Bible Belt - who complain that Harry Potter promotes Satanism or witchcraft obviously haven’t got enough in their lives. Meanwhile, I’ve been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God.”

There’s your source.

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 07:06 PM

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OK OK OK, I was being lazy...AND after re-reading the snopes article, I guess my complaints of non-objectivity are a little misguided.  After reading the source article, I guess there is no question about the quote being taken out of context.  I can’t wait to read these books.

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Julian India Posted on 10/30/2007 at 07:36 PM

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Also, He is quoted as saying “My books are about killing God.” I haven’t been able to find the source of this quote to read it in context, but I have a feeling that there is some relevant context that is being left out there, anybody know more about that? (Like perhaps the real quote should read: “There are some who say my books are about killing God.”?)

Yes they are about killing god but the situation is far far more complex and nuanced than that. Please read the books BEFORE seeing the movie.

Bog Brother United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 07:42 PM

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Please read the books BEFORE seeing the movie.

I most definitely intend to read the books before the movies. It’s the only way to go.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 10/30/2007 at 08:05 PM

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Please read the books BEFORE seeing the movie.

A fine thing but I don’t read many novels.  The movie is going to have to carry it for me.  I only got a few pages into LOTR but did enjoy the movies.  If that means I missed something (which is surely the case), oh well.

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