The Constitution of the United States of America - NOW with God’s law!

Posted by Eric Paulsen on Monday, February 23, 2004 at 05:47 PM. Read 2484 times. Tags: ,
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It makes sense that if the founding father’s could not see fit to include unambiguous language in the Constitution that would allow enforced Christian beliefs upon ALL of Americans citizens then a group of extremist nutballs should take it upon themselves to amend it. So offended was (D) Senator Zell Miller, GA by the half-time appearance of Janet Jackson’s breast during the Super Bowl (a far Left conspiracy apparently), that he wants us all to know that:

I am pleased to be a co-sponsor of S.J. Res. 26 along with Sen. Allard and others, proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to marriage. And S.1558, the Liberties Restoration Act, which declares religious liberty rights in several ways, including the pledge of allegiance and the display of the Ten Commandments. And today I join Sen. Shelby and others with the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004 that limits the jurisdiction of federal courts in certain ways.

In doing so, I stand shoulder to shoulder not only with my Senate co-sponsors and Chief Justice Roy Moore of Alabama but, more importantly, with our Founding Fathers in the conception of religious liberty and the terribly wrong direction our modern judiciary has taken us in.

Ladies and gentlemen, do not take my word that these proposals are bad for anyone who does not yearn for the days of tri-corner hats, buckles on shoes, and witch trials, read them. They almost seem reasonable if you hate gays and get off on imposing your religious views on an entire nation. If you want the American Taliban calling the shots regarding your dress, your sex life, the abolishing of separation between church and state, then I would suggest that you do nothing. It looks like it is time for me to once again contact my representatives to oppose these measures, I just hope I have not found out about this too late.

See also Scott’s input on this.

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nowiser United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 10:15 AM

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But I am curious - do you think everyone who disagrees with you is beneath you and/or less intelligent than you?

One, less intelligent does not = beneath.  There are plenty of people out there that are not as ‘clever’ as I am, who are far better people.  By extension, there are people out there who are far more intelligent than I am, who torture puppies for fun.

Two, when you misrepresent what people are saying, there are two possibilities-- you have difficulty reading, or you are doing it deliberately.  Either way, it doesn’t signal that you’re the sharpest knife in the drawer.

But here’s an idea!  If someone calls you on being a complete asshole, you can accuse them of intellectual elitism, and label them a “Berkley” type that protests because they don’t have anything better to do.  In the absence of thought, an ad hominem is always pretty effective.

My parents are almost 60, and they turn out to antiwar protests because they -believe- that their voices should be heard.  (That whole Democracy thing).  They’re hardly kids looking for attention, and the only thing they really get out of the protests is the fleeting sensation that maybe they aren’t -completely- alone.  A feeling that they certainly won’t get by watching the news.

As for suing under the Fair Housing act, it didn’t seem worth the effort.  The first time it happened, it took the wife and I about ten minutes, as we were driving away, to figure out what had just happened.  The second case, we probably -could- have sued, and won, as the “what church do you go to” question was right there on the application.  But the people who were renting the house were old, and they were renting it because it was their daughter’s and -she had just died!- I realize I should have burnt the bastards to a crisp on the fiery altar of principle, but I figured I’d just let it slide, instead.

BTW nowiser - you’re a dick. Did I forget to mention that?

Well, initially you just suggested the -possibility- of dickitude.  Now you’re asserting it as fact.  But coming from an -intellectual dwarf- with a big-ass chip on his shoulder, it’s hardly an assessment that I’ll be taking to heart now, is it?

So bite my shiny metal ass!

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 10:44 AM

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Misrepresent? Do tell…

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:02 AM

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So did you really go to Berkley?

And would you please explain why, in fact I’m an asshole because the only asshole I see here is you my friend.  You assume, because you’ve misread my comments and have the balls to imply that because I think you’re making a bigger deal out of all this than you should, that I’m somehow a racist.

You’re just like Newdow, aren’t you?  That’s why you like him so much isn’t it?  You think that because you’re so damn smart, everybody should do as you say or else they’ll be [burnt on the fiery alter of principle].  You’re a nitpicky prick that apparently has way too much time on his hands.  What nothing to protest today?  No WTO summit around so you’re not out in your ski-mask bashing the windows out of the neighborhood Starbucks?

What a dick :finger:

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:07 AM

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So I did a Google search on your handle, nowiser, is this really [link removed] you?

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:22 AM

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(Jimbo) in fact I’m an asshole

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Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:31 AM

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Oooohhhhh, aaaahhhhhhh

You’re so clever.  How about a cookie?

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:33 AM

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Maybe a Gold Star next to your name?

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:35 AM

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Only if it doesn’t have “In God We Trust” stamped on it.

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Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 11:43 AM

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I really think jackass is a more appropriate label.

Ragman United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:05 PM

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Jimbo said

Wow, it’s absolutely amazing how reactionary you freaks can get.

First comment he makes, and then gets pissy b/c he’s getting shit. 

Talk about overreaction to something he considers overreaction.

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:13 PM

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Pissy?  I’m laughing over here - this is fun!

nowiser United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:18 PM

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Jimbo,

No, I didn’t go to Berkeley.  No, that website is not “me,” nor am I affiliated with it in any way.  Although I do like pron. 

More importantly, though, I did not “misread” your comments, nor did I ever imply that you were a racist.  It was a fucking analogy, you dork.  Your reading comprehension skills really DO need some work.

Jimbo--> “nowiser accused me of being anti-semitic” Somebody call the waaahmbulance!

Again, whatever dude. 

Nor do I “like” Newdow.  I think he’s right, but that doesn’t make him likeable by a long shot.  I mean, come on, the guy once claimed that his lover got him drunk on a camping trip, and “raped” him.  Please.  But nuts are the ones (on the right AND the left) who often bring about change.  And, so far, there’ve been a lot more of ‘em on the right than there are on the left.

Wait a minute, I just realized that I’m talking to you like you’re an adult.  What a waste of time.

Yu are teh nazty booger!  Fuk yuu!

Ok, now the discourse is back where you’re comfortable with it.  I do what I can to help

Eric Paulsen United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:19 PM

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Don’t kid yourself Ragman, he is sitting back stroking himself excited by all the rancor he has caused. rolleyes

nowiser United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:21 PM

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Hey Jimbo,

is this “you”

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Funny how that works, isn’t it!

Brock United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:34 PM

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I’m just glad my profile isn’t listed at that site. I never dreamed gay profiles listed at another site might be linked from here.

What a sad way to argue, Jimbo!

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nowiser United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:46 PM

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I never dreamed gay profiles listed at another site might be linked from here.

[in my best Seinfeld voice]

“not that there’s anything wrong with that!”

And for Jimbo

I like how you think I must obviously be “[an intellectual dwarf with a chip on my shoulder]” since 1.) I disagree with you . . .

Blatant misrepresentation.  I think you’re an intellectual dwarf because your reading comprehension is seriously flawed.  I disagree with people on this board all the time, but very few are as blatantly ‘stunted’ as you, my fine freaky friend.

therefore the victims of a horrible injustice

hyperbole to create a strawman-- that’s misrepresentation

you’re a member of a secretly oppressed minority

Uh, noone ever claimed that it was a secret.  Strawman.

You assume. . . that I’m somehow a racist.

WTH?  I never claimed you were a racist.  Another Strawman.  Hmmm.  At least you’re consistent.  Strawman and Ad Hominem seem to be your favorites.

Try a Red Herring, or Non Sequitur.  Variety is the spice of life.

Which reminds me, where was that link to the gay porn site?  Jimbo just isn’t enough asshole for me, I need MORE, MORE MORE!

Les United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:49 PM

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And we find once again another perfect example of a trolling asshole in the form of Jimbo. Much like David, he has no sense of irony.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 12:56 PM

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Trolls these days aren’t what they used to be. You could replace a lot of them with a bot and nobody would notice.

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Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 01:03 PM

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There are plenty of people who thought those “uppity niggers” should just quit crying. Civil rights aren’t won by catering to the likes of YOU Jimbo.

So that’s not meant to imply that I would of been one of those people back in the 60’s who would have been opposed to the Civil Rights movement?

And Eric, I’m not the self described “pron fan” around here…

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 01:07 PM

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Brock, that was a joke not an argument.  Jesus, take a joke.

Jimbo United States Posted on 03/31/2004 at 01:16 PM

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BTW - speaking of the Civil Rights movement sinc eyou just love talking about how yours are violated by the vast, and while not quite secret, horribly under-publicized anti-atheist establishment - I’m curious how MLK would view the Newdow debate…

Gene' Bujold Korea (South) Posted on 06/22/2004 at 07:40 PM

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Are all of you people nuts?

Every nation that has veered away from it’s foundation falls!  It crumbles from the inside out.  Only those that have adhered to their strong foundations have ever withstood the test of time.

This isn’t about religion, or morals, or ethics, but rather, it’s about preventing any judge from “reinterpreting” the law, including the Constitution, to fit his or her own worldview, rather than doing the right thing and administering justice based upon the original intentions of the law.

Who looses?

You do.  I do.  We all do.

How?

Massive insurance premiums, mostly for covering the massive legal fees required to defend against fraudulent and frivilous lawsuits.

Doctor fees that are double what they should be to cover their massive insurance premiums.

This is beyond ridiculous, folks - it’s just plain stupid, and whiners who think their “civil liberties” are somehow being violated by this amendment are more stupid than most.

Take the OJ case.  He may very well have done it!  I don’t know, as I wasn’t there.  That’s not the point, however.  The point is the Constitution specifically prohibits being tried twice for the same crime, yet that’s exactly what happened.  After OJ was acquitted in the first trial, the judge who allowed the family to sue him (and they won something like $13 or $35 Mil), in essence, put him on trial a second time.

How would you like to be in a traffic accident that’s not your fault, be charged by the police, be acquitted in the courts, only to be sued, successfully, by the other party?

You think that’s justice?

Our Constitution, and our entire law which derives its authority from it, exists for many good reasons, folks, one of which is to prevent our GOVERNMENT from injuring bringing harm to we, the people.  Yet when a judge reinterprets the law, that’s exactly what happens.

And WE end up as the loosers.

Far too often judges in recent years have become lawmakers by grossly violated the original intent of many laws.  That’s not justice.

If I were a lawmaker (like those in Congress who’re pressing forward with this bill), I’d be pissed as hell at a judge “reinterpreting” the laws I made and would enact legislation to prevent them from doing so!

Unfortunately, it couldn’t just be a simple congressional law, as judges can rule it “unconstitutional.”

Therefore, they’re making an amendment to the constitution so that judges can’t do that.

In our society, lawyers are a necessary evil.  Unfortunately, there are far too many of them, and hungry for work, they’ll take on any case, regardless of merit.  By the time they become judges, they somehow take pity on other lawyers and hear all kinds of cases and lawsuits which should have been thrown out.

I’m sure most judges aren’t this bad, but the good ones don’t have any power to police the self-righteous idiots who grossly distort the law with their idiotic rulings, probably due to “professional courtesy,” and thus the entire system of justice in America today has decayed to the point where it sounds like the heavy gasping of a sucking chest wound.

It’s about time the lawyers in Congress fight back by policing the lawyers sitting on the bench with this Constitutional amendment.

Personally, I’d like to see judges being held accountable for errant decisions, but that would just kill the appeals process, as higher courts would never screw the buddies over by reversing a decision!

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 06/22/2004 at 09:23 PM

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There is a reason for the seperation of the government’s legislative, executive, and judicial branches. If this balance of power and mutual checks and balances is monkeyed with, arguably the US would have veered away off its foundation and must fall, mustn’t it? Ignoring for the moment how far the US already is from its foundation…

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deadscot United States Posted on 06/22/2004 at 11:01 PM

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If I were a lawmaker

Thankfully, you’re not.

What a thread.

Eric Paulsen United States Posted on 06/22/2004 at 11:46 PM

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On the one hand you are all for protecting the Constitution from “activist judges” and on the other hand are fine with Congress monkeying around with it like it was some sort of half-assed MadLib. You would like us to believe that you hold the Constitution sacrosanct but decry the judicial branch (one of the three branches set forth in the very document you seek to ‘protect’). When you say:

This isn’t about religion, or morals, or ethics, but rather, it’s about preventing any judge from “reinterpreting� the law, including the Constitution, to fit his or her own worldview, rather than doing the right thing and administering justice based upon the original intentions of the law.

maybe you can tell us who gets to decide what the correct interpretation is and just what the original intentions of the framers were. Do you have in your posession some sort of time travelling device that will allow us to ask Richard. Dobbs Spaight (just to name one individual at the Constitutional conventions) what they meant EXACTLY when they put pen to paper? What then? Do we turn back time to 1787 and live our lives according to the letter of the Constitution, a 200 year old document that was designed to evolve as America did?

Maybe you feel that the perfect time for amendments to be carved into the Constitution is when we have the executive and legislative branches dominated by a single reactionary idiology - gee now if there was only some way to get rid of that pesky judicial branch… Would you feel the same way if there was a Democratic president working in tandem with a Democratically controlled congress attempting to add an amendment granting the right to marry to gays?

Does that fit in with YOUR worldview? Oh, and I reject the notion that I am nuts but will admit that in the past I have been cuckoo for Co-Co Puffs.

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