Teacher arrested for possessing potentially deadly bookmark.

Posted by Les on Monday, September 20, 2004 at 01:20 PM. Read 2576 times. Tags: ,
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The deadly bookmark in question.Here I was thinking the rules about what you can and can’t take onto an airplane couldn’t get any sillier after they banned fingernail clippers when I come across this story about a Florida teacher named Kathryn Harrington who was arrested because of a fancy bookmark:

“It was a bookmark,” Harrington said. “It’s not a weapon. I could not understand why I was being handcuffed and put into a police car. I cried for hours.”

A month after airport police arrested her on a charge of carrying a concealed weapon - the bookmark - it appears Harrington, a 52-year-old special education teacher from Laurel, Md., could be clear of a potential $10,000 fine.

A spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration said Thursday the agency, a branch of the Department of Homeland Security, is likely to drop Harrington’s case as early as next week.

“I think at this point we’ve decided not to pursue a civil penalty,” said TSA spokeswoman Lauren Stover. “But it’s not a decision that can be made on the spot. These are things that require an investigation.”

The fact that it took the TSA a month to figure out this wasn’t a dangerous weapon or that Harrington isn’t a dangerous terrorist tells me that they must only hire people with very tiny brains who have trouble not drooling on themselves as they fill out their government forms in crayon. It’s a fucking bookmark, folks. I suppose if you got really lucky you might be able to give someone one helluva bump on the head with it, but does anyone really think that you could successfully hijack an airplane with one? The rock hard stale muffins they hand you on those flights are more dangerous than that stupid bookmark.

Part of the problem, aside from the tiny brain issue, is the fact that even if you follow the guidelines about what is and isn’t permitted in the way of objects as listed on the TSA website *PDF file you could still end up in trouble because the TSA screeners pretty much have the final word on what is and isn’t OK even if it’s listed as acceptable according to the TSA’s own guidelines. The website only says that screeners will make judgments about items not on the list, but the list allows you to carry the aforementioned fingernail clippers in your carry-on luggage as well as friggin’ corkscrews(!) yet many states are making a decent chunk of change by selling these and other confiscated items on eBay.

California’s 337 online auctions, which include bulk sales of up to 100 pocket knives at a time, generated $62,000 for its self-funded surplus program.
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Washington state, which has picked up 11,000 pounds of prohibited items from Washington’s airports in the past nine months, has donated much of it to other entities.

“The fingernail clippers and fingernail files go to the homeless shelters, and then we donate the Swiss Army knives to the Boy Scouts,” said Doug Coleman, manager of Washington State Surplus Programs. “We let the fire departments and the police officers go through the tools. We sell a pair of scissors or a pocket knife for 25 cents.”

So there’s no guarantee that following the list of approved items is enough to keep your ass from being charged with a crime (at worst) or having your item confiscated and then sold by the state (at best).

Does anyone else find it incredibly bizarre that it is once again legal for you to own an AK-47, but take a weighted bookmark into your local airport and you could be arrested and potentially charged with a crime??

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 11:30 AM

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John… that was friggin’ eelarious!  (sending link to this thread to my sister who flies a lot and likes MP)

Ingolfson… I hope shoulder-fired missiles are hard to get (but worry that they are not.)

My favorite restaurant’s parking lot is only a few hundred feet from the end of a runway.  There’s no way in an urban area to get a good security perimeter around an airport.  Any smart terrorist should be able to do something nasty with that scenario.

Les United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 12:11 PM

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I drive by Detroit Metro Airport every day with jets taking off and landing over a stretch of open highway that runs right alongside of it. There are so many places that one could launch a missile at a plane taking off or landing while remaining obscured from public view and allowing plenty of time to escape that it’s just not funny. Plenty of wooded areas and easy access to a major freeway, what more could you ask for?

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Socialist Swine Canada Posted on 09/21/2004 at 01:00 PM

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John,

I think I soiled myself....  You have to be more responsible with your humour, you could hurt someone.  However, moving onto something a little more serious, I actually find customs agents to be bigger wieners than TSA agents.  For some reason I must look like a criminal because every time I cross the US/Canadian border I have some customs agent asking me if I have ever been convicted of a felony and when I reply, “No”.  They keep asking me if I’m sure and otherwise pressing me until I almost get convinced that they know something that I don’t and that I’ve somehow been convicted of something in absentia.

ingolfson,

Sure make me paranoid now.  Next time I’m on an airliner during take off and landing I won’t be able to fight the urge of looking for smoke trails.  Actually, I probably will.  I’m pretty sure it’s fairly hard to carry around a shoulder launched SAM around an airport without someone noticing, except for maybe around Detroit Metro as Les pointed out.

John Hoke United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 01:27 PM

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Stinkass… Sorry about the shorts, send the cleaning bill to /dev/null though as I am broke wink

hmmm…

Sure make me paranoid now.  Next time I’m on an airliner during take off and landing I won’t be able to fight the urge of looking for smoke trails.  Actually, I probably will.  I’m pretty sure it’s fairly hard to carry around a shoulder launched SAM around an airport without someone noticing, except for maybe around Detroit Metro as Les pointed out.

Actually here in NYC JFK Airport is right near a national park, LGA near the water, and both have flight paths that pass over my home, quite low in the summer.

A shoulder fired missle could easily reach one at any of these points… hell, remember they thought TWA flight 800 was taken down by one, remember?

That said, I would worry more about the food killing you than a missle ... or maybe old age waiting in line to be relievevd of your property by the TSA ...

I wonder how much damage a .50cal Desert Eagle could do ... shit… this is getting ugly… back to comedy smile

demonsurfer United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 05:16 PM

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Fly Naked. It’s safer.

John Hoke United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 05:20 PM

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Nope… then they will do a thourogh search,…

and then of course there is this new TSA plan (also in the trackbacks above)

These numbnuts cant handle simple baggage checks, and they are now going to start collecting our personal data?

Feh!

Tish Australia Posted on 09/21/2004 at 05:27 PM

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A microscopic fracture in the wrong place of an engine turbine is capable of bringing a plane down, as happened at Sioux City.

Melbourne airport is surrounded by open spaces, a forest and a highway...another “good” target…

Back to the comedy indeed. That was a wicked post, John. Thanks for a great laugh!

John Hoke United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 05:30 PM

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Back to the comedy indeed. That was a wicked post, John. Thanks for a great laugh!

Thanks!

I vill be heere vor all zee veek…

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Les United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 05:44 PM

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Fly Naked. It’s safer.

You’ve obviously never seen me naked.

Hell, showing up in just my underwear could be enough to get me arrested for terrorism.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 09/21/2004 at 06:37 PM

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Les: You’ve obviously never seen me naked.

No. Do you carry a lethal weapon?

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Tish Australia Posted on 09/22/2004 at 10:54 AM

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Add to that “dangerous terrorist” list, the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens.

According to the BBC story, Yusef Islam is on a US “watch list”. His flight from London to Washington was diverted and he’s due to be kicked out of the US.

Les United States Posted on 09/22/2004 at 11:53 AM

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Elwed, I somehow missed your last comment when it was posted yesterday. Damn near made me snort my coffee.

Tish, I saw that on the news this morning. They didn’t say why his name is on the watchlist or why they think he needs to be kept from entering the country. Have you heard anything on the reasoning behind this?

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 09/22/2004 at 12:17 PM

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Israel deported him (the first time?) in 1990 for allegedly hand-delivering a couple ten thousand bucks to Hamas. No idea if there’s any substance to this.

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Tish Australia Posted on 09/27/2004 at 09:33 AM

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Latest news is that someone by the name of Youssef Islam is the person on the watch-list. Someone must have thought, “Yusef Islam? Close enough!”

ingolfson Germany Posted on 09/30/2004 at 06:22 PM

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> I’m pretty sure it’s fairly hard to carry
> around a shoulder launched SAM around an
> airport without someone noticing, except for
> maybe around Detroit Metro as Les pointed out.

Around an airport? Well maybe. But those suckers are *small* and light nowadays (at least the more modern ones), and they can be fired a mile or more away from the airport, while the plane is still gaining height.

> Sure make me paranoid now.  Next time I’m on an
> airliner during take off and landing I won’t be
> able to fight the urge of looking for smoke
> trails.  Actually, I probably will.

You won’t see them. They are too fast (gotta catch an airplane after all) and are best fired from behind the plane so to home in on the engine heat. I hope I could calm you down with that wink

> Melbourne airport is surrounded by open spaces,
> a forest and a highway...another “good� target…

Most airports are totally unprotectable against something like that. 

However there are some positive points:

Most of the shoulder-mounted sams floating around the worlds black arms market are pretty basic stuff (Russian, and Russian knock-offs as far as I know). They can be foiled by anti-missile systems. If there are ever any such attacks in the western world (and not only in Angola and Iraq), we will have to install them.

Stinger-types would be a lot worse, but I guess that the Afghanis used up most of the ones the CIA gave them against the Russians. Some of them must be banging their heads in frustration now (If we could just have saved SOME for the OTHER infidels...)

Even a hit *might* not kill the plane. However, if the fuel in the wing tanks catches fire, or if the wing is snapped off....

Okay, I’ll stop now. Some of you have to catch a flight (yeah, I’m fucking hilarious tonight).

Ingolfson

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 09/30/2004 at 06:35 PM

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Stinger-types would be a lot worse, but I guess that the Afghanis used up most of the ones the CIA gave them against the Russians. Some of them must be banging their heads in frustration now (If we could just have saved SOME for the OTHER infidels...)

When we give sophisticated arms to other countries, why don’t they have an expiration date?  Good for six months, at which time we transmit codes or give them smart cards to make them good for another six months.  No code means the thing erases its eeproms or whatever.

Or: when the device is armed, it queries a satellite: “I am device number such-and-such - can I go?” All encrypted, of course.

Of course you’d want to involve some clever hackers in the development project to make sure that attempting to tamper with the weapon would make it useless right away and permenantly.

ingolfson Germany Posted on 09/30/2004 at 07:14 PM

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If you’re smart you can hack anything that you have your physical hands on, decrepit. So they would have simply asked around a little in their circles until they found a few computer/electronics people.

As for tampering makes it useless - how? The only reasonable way I could think of would be a bomb or an acid pellet in the electronic parts. But THAT can be dismantled too. Once you find out that they do tend to self-destruct…

Heck, people who can build bombs can disarm them too, especially if they have lots of time.

Now if the stinger used WinXP, THAT might solve the problem wink

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 09/30/2004 at 07:56 PM

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If you’re smart you can hack anything that you have your physical hands on

Surely you’re right but why make it easy for them? I’ve never heard of any efforts to make our weapons “cancellable.”

Pretty damn hard to hack a circut that is 1) cast in epoxy, 2) only receives, does not send, 3) has kill-wires cast into the epoxy around it, and 4)is set to launch unarmed and unguided (or just explode) if any rivets are drilled. 

At least we could make them use up a lot of electronics experts trying to figure it out.

ingolfson Germany Posted on 10/01/2004 at 02:52 AM

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Well, decrepit, I agree with the gist of your posts, but still think it would be wasted money.

How about not selling arms in the first place?

Oh well, forget that. Pure fantasy, I know. The Saddams and Bin Ladens of the future world will always get arms from greedy or short-sighted nations…

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 10/01/2004 at 05:55 AM

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How about not selling arms in the first place?

Ding!  We have a winner!  Yeah!

The Saddams and Bin Ladens of the future world will always get arms from greedy or short-sighted nations…

It’s a test.  If we’re dumb enough to sell weapons to the likes of Saddam or bin Laden…

Ingolfson Europe Posted on 10/01/2004 at 06:29 AM

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Somehow, this reminds me of the ‘Sum of all fears’-movie. After a nuclear bomb destroys an American city, they find out that the stuff came from their own army stocks…

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