Six Apart wants to hear how you’re using your blog.

Posted by Les on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 05:17 AM. Read 439 times. Tags:
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Looks like they may not be done fiddling with the licenses for MT3 as Mena is asking folks to offer up their input on how you’re using your blogs and why the current licensing models don’t work for you.

Six Log: How are you using the tool?

I have a challenge for those who have taken the time to send a TrackBack to our previous posts about the new licensing scheme for Movable Type 3.0.

If free isn’t an issue for you and you’re willing to pay for a version of Movable Type (say the $69 version) and the blog/author limits won’t work for your current use, write a non-emotional post explaining how you’re using Movable Type and TrackBack this entry.

I left the TrackBacks on for all the other posts because we genuinely wanted to get all feedback, positive and negative. Now, I’m looking for rational, just the facts sort of posts with simple information. Please, no commentary, no cussing, no judgments.

Bad Example: I don’t want to pay for my weblogs and I don’t want limits and I don’t like Six Apart.

Good example: I’m running one group weblog that’s non-commercial for 13 of my friends on our softball team and my three children, husband and I also all have personal weblogs. That’s 6 weblogs and 19 authors total. The cost for this setup is a bit prohibitive for my personal hobby.

I’ve already gone into my problems with it in several other posts including a summary of my issues with the current licensing in this entry. Rather than list the issues all over again I thought I’d just link to them and ping Mena’s entry.

If you’re still sitting on the fence and are concerned about the new licensing models then here’s your chance to offer some feedback. Write up your issues in an entry on your blog and then ping Mena’s entry and they’ll take a look at it. Gotta give Six Apart credit for recognizing the situation and being willing to listen.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 05/18/2004 at 06:31 AM

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Aren’t you supposed to do the market research first and the pricing structure after?

I have never used MT other than a toy install on my local network, but the post referred to above puts 6A on my “do not do business with” list.

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Les United States Posted on 05/18/2004 at 07:05 AM

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I’d have to confess that I’m not sure how the hell it’s done as I’ve never taken any courses on how to run a business and most of the companies I’ve worked for don’t seem to follow any normal sense of logic anyway.

In defence of Six Apart they are new at this being-a-company thing so I’m not against cutting them some slack on it. It literally started as two people who wrote software they thought would be nice to share with others and they never expected to turn it into an actual company. I’d count this as growing pains.

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*** Dave United States Posted on 05/18/2004 at 07:57 AM

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In at least one location, I saw mention of a survey of 2500 bloggers they’d done that was the basis for their pricing/licensing structure.

I suspect, though can’t know for certain, that the most vocal critics of the new schema are *not* necessarily typical of the majority of bloggers.  However, I also suspect that they have been more vocal advocates of MT, bringing in a lot of the bloggers (“I’m starting a blog—what would you suggest I use?“) and providing a lot of free advertising and mind-share in the blogging community.

Les United States Posted on 05/18/2004 at 08:36 AM

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Indeed. I’m think I fall into the “non-typical” usage as well as the “vocal supporter” camp as there’s at least a half-dozen blogs out there running MT at my suggestion and, often, assistance. Most of those that I’ve helped get going fall under the “free” license without too much issue.

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*** Dave United States Posted on 05/18/2004 at 09:39 AM

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It was actually an interesting exercise. I had a general idea of how many blogs I have, etc., but I hadn’t sat down and counted.  End result:  5 blogs, 5 authors (given my understanding of active vs inactive, etc.).

That just fits into the first-tier personal pay plan ($70, $100 eventually).  But it would be so easy to go over that number.  And it would be possible—with some degradation of functionality—to get down into the 3-and-1.  But both would be trivial exercises that wouldn’t represent significantly more or less exploitation of 6A’s intellectual property.

Is $70 okay?  Yeah, I guess.  Is $100?  Hmmm. I spend more than that on some hobbies, to be sure (and on a regular basis), but in a single explicit lump, it seems pretty high.  Certainly the most I’ve spent on any given piece of software I’ve ever bought.

Still not ready to jump ship, but not ready to leap into 3.0, either.

Frac Canada Posted on 05/18/2004 at 02:20 PM

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I have a question. What makes a blog publisher choose to go with something like MT over a free service like blogger.com.

I’m curious is there is one really clear cut reason. Advertising revenue? It’s cool to run your own domain and server? I’m a hacker for hacking’s sake?

I blog on blogger. My images are stored on the free 10meg of FTP I get with my cable modem. Comments are handled by Haloscan for free, and tracking is handled by sitemeter for free.

I seem to have a huge amount of control over look and feel. What am I missing by not having my own server, domain, and blogging software?

Les United States Posted on 05/18/2004 at 03:47 PM

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If you’re happy with what you’ve got then you’re not missing a thing. grin

I went with MT back in the day because it was free, like blogger, and I could use it on my own webserver. For me it was largely a matter of control. Not only can I have whatever domain name I want on my own server, but I can install other scripts to do other things in addition to MT and then integrate them into the sites I host. Prior to blogging I ran a couple of anime related websites one of which I coded by hand before I started learning how to install and use CMS systems. Once you get used to DIY I suppose you have a hard time doing it any other way.

Is that better than relying on a hosted service like Blogger? Depends on what you want to do and how much work you want to put into it. If you’re happy with what you’ve got then that’s all you need.

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Matt Korea (South) Posted on 05/18/2004 at 06:47 PM

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The whole Mena post is condescending and patronizing. Instead of owning up to what was a clear foul-up on their part, they put the onus on the blogging community. What kind of business grudgingly (and that is how the post reads) does market research AFTER they announce a product?!

I don’t have 13 blogs and 25 authors. i have one blog and one author. If Mena is interested, these numbers will make it much easier for me to migrate to Wordpress.

Jay Allen Hungary Posted on 05/18/2004 at 11:19 PM

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Gotta give Six Apart credit for recognizing the situation and being willing to listen.

They do.  They really do.  Hopefully that ends up with the best results for both the company and us.

I suspect, though can’t know for certain, that the most vocal critics of the new schema are *not* necessarily typical of the majority of bloggers.

So, so true.  And that’s just the microcosm.  None of US are really normal compared to those people out on the street…

What kind of business grudgingly (and that is how the post reads) does market research AFTER they announce a product?!

Errrm, a startup who is a limited budget because they’ve been giving all of their product away for two and a half years?

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 05/19/2004 at 06:25 AM

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Jay, you almost sound like an apologist wink I concur with Matt that by all appearances they grudgingly backpedal, which can only mean they didn’t do their due dilligence on market research.  And if they’ve been VC-funded for 2.5 years, they’ve had plenty of time and funds to do that.

I have no axe to grind with 6A, but the events surrounding their licensing policies lead me to believe that 6A exhibits poor business sense. Having said that, their contracts with their VC’s may not leave them much choice.

Almost invariably, free projects turned commercial alienate the user base that helped shape the product.

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