SEB Mailbag: “What do you do with the money?“ edition.

Posted by Les on Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 06:31 PM. Read 4200 times. Tags: , ,
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Got the following missive today:

From: Angel Eyes
Subject: Oh my….. and you wonder why the world is in this kind of shape!

I would never donate to your site….. talk about a scam!! What do you do with the money??? So you don’t believe in a heaven or hell or God!  When you die I promise you will believe in it then…when you look into the eyes of your maker and get sent to hell to burn.  FOREVER!! How can you not believe in God, do you have children Mr. Les??? Look at that miracle… I promise no man could have ever started life in the beginning! Think about it….  How did man first get put on this earth.  Don’t say evolution because how did a monkey get here? I mean HELLO during caveman times the wheel was a big deal so you actually think something else could have created man!  There must be a greater power.  Are you serious or just stupid.  Now grant it I am not a holy roller and I totally believe that the prayer rug with “Saint Matthew’s” is a scam, but God is not a scam and people that start scams like the prayer rug will be held accountable for their actions.  So think about it Mr. Les.  God bless you.  Feel free to reply… I’m not afraid. Thanks… that’s all I have to say!  Also, if you have children will be held accountable for the lives.  Do you actually want them to be sent to Hell? To burn for eternity??

And here’s my reply:

    Angel Eyes, Thanks for the email. It’ll make a great blog entry in my SEB Mailbag series of notes from nutcases. I appreciate you providing me with more fodder for my readers! Cheers! Les

 

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Patness Canada Posted on 06/06/2008 at 10:26 AM

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You already have gothic. People who dress in gothic have been known to shoot many people and mix crosses with skulls.

I was playing on words when you referred to Jesus as The Punisher. That you actually tried to make an argumentative statement from that shows how astonishingly desperate you are.

People who dress in gothic have been known to shoot many people and mix crosses with skulls.

I don’t know what associations Goths have over there, but over here goths are, if anything, less likely to shoot anyone else and more likely to shoot themselves. All of the goths I know are expressly non-violent except for episodes of masochism.

Gothic is from ostrigoth and visgoth, the cannonizers of church law.

You’re making a mistake here; it’s canon, not cannon. The church has been using the cannon to spread the canon ever since the cannon was invented. Clear? (with all due respect to whoever I’m paraphrasing; I’m too lazy to hunt it down)

You also have a church ritual where they ask God to accept bread an wine as the body and flesh of supposedly God’s son. Lets assume you don’t deny God, and lets say God does accept their symbolism. Then they are the guilty of cannablism?

Communion. Uh, if it’s not actually a human being they’re eating, then no, it’s not cannibalism. On the other hand, if they think it’s a human being they’re eating and they’re encouraged to eat it under that pretense, then they are encouraging cannibalism at least in the symbolic sense.

Far be it from me to say that Christianity is kooky. Oh, wait, never mind.

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Josh Israel Posted on 06/06/2008 at 11:02 AM

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One last stirring of the pile before I cut and run.

Atoms are whirling energy that is invisible on the micro level.
God is invisible, as he states no form does him justice. (I hear people wincing already, but bear with me)
Pagans are people who want to give God form.

As science believers who accept the fact that atoms are whirling invisible energies powered by an unknown force and that this force is responsible for building this world.

The fact that science based individuals want visible proof of the creator of the atom (the energy that whirls the invisible), seems like they are still influenced by residuals of pagan thinking that they must hold this source in their hands. The world is built by the invisible and we know it.

Lastly, the atom electrons, nucleolus, etc. have never been seen. Only the effects have been seen, indirect observation. We accept the explanation because someone wrote it and handed it down to us.

We accept that their precepts are correct but we never tested them.

So in the same light, we could take the prophecies of Moses of the Old testament which are in forward looking statements and check that they have occurred and that the events of today maintain themselves within the guidelines as stated. By indirect observation, much as we do with atoms, we can see the negative (shadow of the curses) behavior of God and thus prove or disprove he exists. If his the shadow moves random and covers a broad sample of normal probabilities, we can say there is not proof. But if the distribution is inconsistently distributed according to what Moses stated, we must assume there is legitimacy to the theory Moses presents.

If any of the rules and guidelines are violated, then the experiment based on the Moses theory is invalid.

For example, a Judeo/Christian person who is part of the experiment bound by the bible, must be the test subject. If that descendant takes on another god, the more they adhere and believe in the false God, the more cursed they should be and conversly. If murder profiles include people who believe they are Jesus, they should have an representative distribution of people claiming they are Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Ever hear of Jerusalem syndrome? This should effect an equal percentage of visitor volume for those coming to Israel. As more Jews make visits, the syndrome should have a greater sample of Jews affected than Christians.


You get my point. Be open minded and test the theories not with blind faith but logic and Moses’ theories. Indirect observation of the invisible force, as you would the invisible atom. You want proof, you say.

Research the truth logically. I speak specifically of the book of Deuteronomy. Other books cannot be validated as being from a truthful prophet, as Moses delivered that book before he died.

There are no prophets or books that can be proved afterwards and before he died he said the issue was closed no adding or subtracting, thus books written afterwards are not likely to be valid.


You can use google news alerts to recieve and follow up on weird events (sub human behavior) that make the news. Usually a day or two later they will tell you about the weirdo arrested and their affilitations. Tally the distribution and see God talk through his dark actions. Remeber, Jesus represents himself as Gods punisher bringing division and brother delivering brother to death you know all the other characters. So these are the lines that should be adhered to in watching for the curses. Evil targets evil. Curse go to the third and fouth generations, so look at the parents, such as authoring books like, My Christian Failings.

Komosel Israel Posted on 06/06/2008 at 11:05 AM

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Josh=Komosel

zilch Sweden Posted on 06/06/2008 at 11:13 AM

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Josh=Komosel

I don’t know how, but I guessed that.  I must be a prophet…

Angel Eyes- what do you say about Komosel/Josh?  I loves me some Christian infighting…

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Julian India Posted on 06/06/2008 at 11:32 AM

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Holy batshit Fatman! Haven’t you run out of steam yet?

Someone should explain to him about the Scientific Method, and predictive models and the rest of it, if it wouldn’t be a complete waste of time.

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Who is Pascal Wager?

Bastich United States Posted on 06/06/2008 at 11:43 AM

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Holy batshit Fatman! Haven’t you run out of steam yet?

Don’t run him off yet, I’ve got a bet with the guys at the office as to how long before we hear of this guy on the news.  LOL

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Cubelai Germany Posted on 06/06/2008 at 12:27 PM

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Chorus:
The gods are corrupt
life is not fair,
the sky is broken,
the dreams are empty.
The truth is often painful,
and Darwin was awesome,
but as I see it,
it is not unimportant.

Almost.

But Darwin was really not the subject of the song. Life itself as it is today is the subject. And the fist hits me not because its depressing but because it is true.

the truth is often painful
this might sound trivial
but as I see it
its not meaningless

what you understood to be anythig about Darwin was “Das klingt vielleicht banal”

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komosel Israel Posted on 06/06/2008 at 12:56 PM

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Cubelai:

And the fist hits me not because its depressing but because it is true.

For many but not for everyone.

I for one think one God is not corrupt but belief in gods is
Life is precisly fair.
The earth (man) is broken but the sky is not.
Dreams are fullfilled but not if you dont study for the test
The truth is only painful at first and pleasing there after.
The belief in Dawin is awe inspiring (in that it is self depricating yet people chose to believe it)
but as I see it
its not meaningless

Cubelai Germany Posted on 06/06/2008 at 01:06 PM

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Well my statement was more on the work of Blumfeld in complete.

With this song you are making the mistake in taking the words way too literally.

And no, Darwin still is not mentioned.

Maybe you should try out tocotronic and start with them. They are somehow like Blumfeld for beginners.

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Justice United States Posted on 06/06/2008 at 04:29 PM

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Pato2747, (When in doubt, cut and paste wink )

Long story short:
1.- Big Bang
2.- Formation of Stars
3.- Formation of the Solar System
4.- Formation of Earth, together with the Solar System.
5.- Creation of complex molecules
6.- Eventual and slow creation of the first cell
6.- Evolution
7.- Apes
8.- Evolution
9.- Humans
And it will carry on.

Now I am motivated to buy a laminator. I am going to have a card!  cheese

zilch Sweden Posted on 06/07/2008 at 02:25 AM

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Hey Justice- I’d like one of those cards myself!  If you do them, could you mail me one?

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komosel Israel Posted on 06/07/2008 at 02:27 AM

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Long story long:


1.- Big Bang
2.- Formation of Stars
3.- Formation of the Solar System
4.- Formation of Earth, together with the Solar System.
5.- Creation of complex molecules
6.- Eventual and slow creation of the first cell
6.- Evolution
7.- Apes
8.- Evolution
9.- Humans
10. Humans die of global warming
11.- Crocodiles again
12. - Crocodiles eat each other
13.- Plants rule again
14.- Stars slowly burn down dimming the life giving sunlight
15. Plants start to die out
16. - Single cell oganizim declares he is the king messiah once more
13. - Solar systems continue to fragment turning to space dust
14. - Stars burn out completely
15. - No one can find a match in the dark to light the next bing bang - End of story

Komsel Israel Posted on 06/07/2008 at 02:32 AM

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Sorry about the numbering. Consider it a either a problem with the time space contimuim or a brain fart.

Whichever you can scientifically prove.

zilch Sweden Posted on 06/07/2008 at 03:32 AM

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Hey Komosel- at least you have a sense of humor.  Run with it.

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Komosel Israel Posted on 06/07/2008 at 04:10 AM

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I don’t know how, but I guessed that.  I must be a prophet

If you you stated God told you and he really did you would be a prophet, but since you said you guessed that, no prize.

And no, Darwin still is not mentioned

Are you sure?

Maybe it got cut from the distributed version. I didn’t invent it, I only translated from this link: Tics

See this site on the lyrics:

und Darwin war genial

zilch Sweden Posted on 06/07/2008 at 04:32 AM

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Komosel- So only the people who claim divine inspiration for their correct predictions get the prize?  That hardly seems fair:  we unaided mortals have a much harder time making predictions than those who happen to be lucky enough to get the word from God…

The site you apparently got “und Darwin war genial” from is in error: I listened to the song, and the lyrics at this point are, as Cubelai said, “das klingt vielleicht banal”, or “this might sound banal/trivial”.  Next time, trust a native speaker about the meaning of texts, and not some website.  Not that it matters- Darwin was a genius.

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Cubelai Germany Posted on 06/07/2008 at 02:02 PM

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Maybe it got cut from the distributed version

That might be the point. They don’t sing it. Not in the video and not in the version i have on itunes.

They change the line twice at the end of the song “das klingt vielleicht brutal” and “und all das ist normal”. Why the site puts “Darwin war genial” i can’t tell.

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zilch Sweden Posted on 06/08/2008 at 03:06 AM

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Cubelai- I listened to the song all the way through and you’re quite right about the text, of course.  And it beats me too how anyone could hear “Darwin” in there.  Wishful thinking perhaps.

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