SEB Mailbag: “What do you do with the money?” edition.

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Got the following missive today:

From: Angel Eyes (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Subject: Oh my….. and you wonder why the world is in this kind of shape!

I would never donate to your site….. talk about a scam!! What do you do with the money??? So you don’t believe in a heaven or hell or God!  When you die I promise you will believe in it then…when you look into the eyes of your maker and get sent to hell to burn.  FOREVER!! How can you not believe in God, do you have children Mr. Les??? Look at that miracle… I promise no man could have ever started life in the beginning! Think about it….  How did man first get put on this earth.  Don’t say evolution because how did a monkey get here? I mean HELLO during caveman times the wheel was a big deal so you actually think something else could have created man!  There must be a greater power.  Are you serious or just stupid.  Now grant it I am not a holy roller and I totally believe that the prayer rug with “Saint Matthew’s” is a scam, but God is not a scam and people that start scams like the prayer rug will be held accountable for their actions.  So think about it Mr. Les.  God bless you.  Feel free to reply… I’m not afraid. Thanks… that’s all I have to say!  Also, if you have children will be held accountable for the lives.  Do you actually want them to be sent to Hell? To burn for eternity??

And here’s my reply:

    Angel Eyes, Thanks for the email. It’ll make a great blog entry in my SEB Mailbag series of notes from nutcases. I appreciate you providing me with more fodder for my readers! Cheers! Les

 

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zilch Sweden Posted on 06/05/2008 at 03:48 AM

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Science does teach we are evolved from monkeys yet states we are not genetically connected to neandrathal man.

Someone needs to brush up on their science.  Science does not teach us that we are evolved from monkeys; rather, that monkeys and humans have a common ancestor.  Science does not teach us that we are not “genetically connected” to Neanderthals; rather, that we are not descended from Neanderthals.  They are our cousins, not our forbears.

We are obviously genetically connected to Neanderthals, as we are genetically connected to all life.  Our last known common ancestor has been dated at 1.2 million years old, and preliminary studies suggest the Neanderthal and human lineages split about 0.6 million years ago.  This means that their DNA is probably over 99% the same as ours.  That’s a “connection” in my book.

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Julian India Posted on 06/05/2008 at 03:55 AM

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Science does teach we are evolved from monkeys yet states we are not genetically connected to neandrathal man.

No no no that’s completely wrong. Where are you getting these “facts” from? I think you need to re-evaluted everything you think is true. Maybe brush up on your Science a bit.

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Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 04:01 AM

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You say:

Not original

To this I say open your eyes and stop overruling what you see by what you want to believe is true.

So I am assuming that the history of the brutality of all the movements of Jesus, the mass murderers who claim to be Jesus, the followers being constantly victimized, and the people who snap while worshipping Jesus are not real. I suppose the churches are not haven for peodophiles, murdering preachers, con men, and vile individuals. I suppose rapes do keep ahppening in these locations. They have never burned people at the stake or slaughtered nations. They never killed 11 million people under a crucifix called a swastika.

His mark is on all the weird tragedies and betwen the lines of the doers and the victims. From Jeffry daumer, the virginia shooter, the tsunami, the Bam earthquake, columbine, etc.

When was the last mass murderer who said he was Moses, or Ghandi? Not scientific liniar but grossly imbalanced on the side of Jesus.

I assume you will say the fear of the number 13 and not having 13th floor labels is not acutually happening.

I assume the saying only the good die young, has no connection to reality or the curse, I shall take you best and brightess.


True you have been given the ability to open your mouth to deny God’s existance to everyone you speak to and claim thus you are right.

However, I have seen many athiest crying like bitches to God when they are awaken to the fact that someone has f*cked with their science picture of calculative thinking. You can say they are deluded, I say they have had their eyes open, their self delusion shattered, and their lying mouths shut. The world does not move in scientific straight lines and you know it. Never has and never will.

Athiests are cavemen throwing rocks at an airplane. They have chosen of all the things to believe the coldest and lest logical option. Even if you believe in science, there is no reason other than pride to resoundly deny that we are part of a superior beings experinment or test.

The bible is no more than a superior being being atrributed to the propigation of a life form and the testing of that life forms ability to follow rules, exhibit higher thinking, and love.

I have seen men fall from two stories up hit a deep hole in the concrete not larger than a bucket filled with stuffed animal pill and not get a scrape on them. Hole in one, however ultimately sink to the botton of the hole only to sufficate.

This reminds me of the athiest argument. Unscathed by reality but sufficatting on thier soft lies.

Even quantum phycisist utimately attribute God. Science is being used as you tool for rebellion and shock value. It is just another false answer in the multiple choice question that God is asking, “do you know how to love him” and “will you attempt to replace him”.

I understand your rebelion against religion, but against the creator, I cant rationlize your cold heartedness.

Lets hope you are not cying like a bitch before you find out that disrespecting the ulitmate force behind your life is a losing ticket.

God has his ways and they are not so mysterious. By the way, your analysis of how the concept I presented was inaccurate and unthoughtful. You compare dissimilar things and deny the existance of educated men writing during a time and locations we know exist.

You would deny there are pyramids and desserts in egypt by saying no one in your town has ever seen them. Just because you weren’t there does not mean it did not happen.

No one has ever represented Jesus as the hired pubisher and humilator of non-adherant Jews/Christians.

Have you heard this concept before? I doubt it but you probably wont address the orginality but rather attack the book. That is fine, the book has lies in it. But everyone knows a good liar mixes truth in to support his lies. It did come true, jews were burnt up because Jesus came.

Or are you one of those hollacaust deniers?

zilch Sweden Posted on 06/05/2008 at 04:26 AM

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Komosel:  my eyes are open, thank you.  While it’s hard to be sure, what you seem to be saying is basically this:  that all kinds of bad stuff happens in the world, and that Jesus is involved somehow.  I’ll agree with you there, but that doesn’t mean that belief in God, or Jesus, or the Bible is not just a delusion.  If I blame Santa for getting a lump of coal in my stocking, is that evidence that Santa exists?

You would deny there are pyramids and desserts in egypt by saying no one in your town has ever seen them. Just because you weren’t there does not mean it did not happen.

“You would deny that there are leprechauns at the end of rainbows by saying that no one in your town has ever seen them.  Just because you weren’t there does not mean it did not happen.”  One word: evidence.

I understand your rebelion against religion, but against the creator, I cant rationlize your cold heartedness.

“I can understand your rebellion against the dentist, but I don’t understand your cold-heartedness against the Tooth Fairy.”  I can’t be “cold hearted” about something I don’t believe exists.

No one has ever represented Jesus as the hired pubisher and humilator of non-adherant Jews/Christians.

Have you heard this concept before? I doubt it but you probably wont address the orginality but rather attack the book.

This is a rather grimmer image of Jesus than the usual one, true; but it’s not really original.  After all, Jesus does say “no one gets to the Father but by me” and rants about all those who shall not inherit the Kingdom.  So you are just emphasizing His Dark Side.

Or are you one of those hollacaust deniers?

Why should I be?  There’s lots of evidence that the Holocaust happened, and I’ve talked to survivors myself.  There’s no evidence that the Bible is anything other than a wonderful mixture of history, myth, hard-won wisdom, brutal tribal ethics, evocative poetry, and bizarre off-the-wall science fiction.  And I’ve seen lots of evidence that people make up religions all the time, and believe all kinds of crazy stuff, and no evidence that anything like a God exists, except in our imaginations.  But I’m open to evidence.

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zilch Sweden Posted on 06/05/2008 at 05:46 AM

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Oh, and one more thing.  Komosel, you seem to think that because Jesus is a real badass, and that lots of bad stuff has been done in His name, that I should be afraid for my soul.  Say I told you to pray to the Tooth Fairy, and you said you won’t because you don’t believe in Her.  What if I then said, you’d better pray to Her, otherwise she won’t wait for your teeth to fall out: She’ll come and get them Herself.  Would you then be more inclined to believe in Her?  Threats of punishment don’t work, if I don’t believe the punisher exists, and I don’t become more likely to believe if the imaginary threatened punishments are increased.

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Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 06:00 AM

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Humans by nature are delusional, yes.

A man from a strange land finds himself in an abandon house. He has never had knowlege of building a house. He stumbles upon and hammer and some nails. He looks at how th bricks were layed and formulates his own kind of mortar. He pulls nails out of boards and figures out how to use a hammer. He forges his own nails and begins building crude structures. Alas he arrives at the conclusion that the house is a freak randaom act and that the orginal builder doesn’t exists as their is no proof any archectect, builder or worker actually built the house.

A descendant of the previous resident retuned and dug out of the attic and showed the squatter man the archetectural documents and explaind to this man that the builder existed and even showed him some of the old invoices for materials.

The man stated thats not evidence. Who is deluded?

Jesus does say “no one gets to the Father but by me

Did I not say he was a tester of Deut 13. One must pass this test of Deuternomy 13. Those who failed think they have passed his test cause in order for it to be a good test all the unstudied students must view the multiple choice answers as possibilities. But they did not get by the tester.

Understand, the man described in Deut 13 is a liar, however he is not a liar to the extent that he would punish one who passes the test. This is why he sent a number of people away after the answered his questions correctly. this is why he counterdicts himself.

As far as evidence, is not multiple written records by various authors, including those who are adversaries of one another, evidence something happened.

In science, especially atomic level, the evidence is often the effects cause. So to look at the effects of atoms is in effect proof that a atom exists.

The darkside tells us ovewhelming evidence of God. Just as a shadow can tell us the light is blocked. In court should an accused murder lie, you would discount the truth.

Jesus says he is not the messiah. That’s evidence number one. Evidence number two is that he does not match prophecy read in context. Did he lie, no but his followers did.

Jesus did not lie when he said wars would come as a result of him coming. You say this is not evidence. But this is precisely what a prophet must do to be considered a prophet.

You have ancient scrolls uncovered by scientist. These scolls say things will happen. These things happen and you say the scrolls are not evidence that someone long ago predicted x, y and z. Someone long ago passed the test of being a prophet or false prophet (one who suceeds at miracles but misleads).

Well sorry to say but your not being straight. It is evidence that a person existed and made a prediction thousands of years ago. You can disbelieve the miracles if you chose dismissing it as some magic trick. Some ancient Chris Angel type. But mulptiple authors giving similar yet not identical accounts, recorded someting was going on. If they were in colsuion they would be identical and they would have surely eliminated the old testament as it dispoves the new testaments legitimacy.

You might hold science can explain it, but you have no more proof than the next guy.

I can’t be “cold hearted” about something I don’t believe exists.

But you do believe he exists. You have prayed to him and called his name. It is in everyone, you just work harder at silencing this truth. You work so hard at it that you dedicate hours online talking about it.

You can berate those who say God exists, but you can’t silence that inner voice. If you break your leg again on the motorcross, you will be asking him why once more.

Bog Brother United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 06:10 AM

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To this I say open your eyes and stop overruling what you see by what you want to believe is true.

And to that I say:

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
- Matthew 7:5

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Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 06:32 AM

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descended from Neanderthals

A connection in your book, ok. You can be a monkeys cousin if you want.

To me, on a scientific level, it does not mean we are cousins or descendants of the same being at all. What it proves is that whatever system used to construct the organic beings on this planet is same. Just because a rock rolls down a hill, bicycle has two rolling wheels and a truck use wheels does not mean that they are descendants trough evolution and not the creations their man designers created them to be. The same is true of the superior being who is our creator.

You seem to think that because Jesus is a real badass, and that lots of bad stuff has been done in His name, that I should be afraid for my soul

Do I think your afraid. Not on the surface, but deep inside. It gives you a rush to deny God. Do I reccomend giving repsect to God, Yes.

Because a creator who will anihilate an entire world and cares enough to send down punishment, is not someone you want to turn your bakc on and start badmouthing his works. If you thought that your actions today can keep you and your family from being pushed into an oven, would you do something about it? So my answer is yes, some things are true whether you believe them or not.

The question which is even bigger is does God really care if you chose not to respect him or not. Liken this to the mafia. Are they the gods men hype them to be? No but they are not chumps either.

What farmer cares about burning up the waste byproduct. What scientist cares about squashing an ant that bites him or washing off a petry dish that has a contaminated culture.

Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 06:49 AM

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Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
- Matthew 7:5

Again, we see Jesus making the seeds that people think are good when they are doomed. Jesus is delivering his formula where a society lays down and lets eveil overrun it. An the evil persons are happy to do it. This is the division and war that this society virus delivers which will cause brother to deliver brother to death.

If my brother has something in his eye I will not fail to remove the mote from his eye, regardless of my situation. If I am a drug addict and my kid brother asks for drugs, you state I should fix my drug problem before I save him?

Lets use this example in conjunction with the “cast not the first stone” or “judge not lest ye be judged”.

How about police not arrest people until they have all stopped lying, cheating, and stealing themselves. When cops obey traffic signals and work overtime as polite bouncers instead of thugs. 

Lets see where society progresses. Will we have the Jesus freak parents of murdered childred comforting the murderer stating they forgive them before the murderre evel asks for forgiveness. Maybe a society where a person can murder someones children and then sue the parents for giving him the opportunity. Oh yeah we already have this.

Talk about hypocryte.

Don’t quote that crap, till you think about it.

My eyes are open to reality but my viewpoint is most certailnly not yours.  The world is f*cked up, dont try to say it isn’t.

MisterMook United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 08:12 AM

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If I am a drug addict and my kid brother asks for drugs, you state I should fix my drug problem before I save him?

Dude, for your own sake I think you need to do something about your drug problem no matter what your family is doing. It’s obviously an issue.

Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 08:28 AM

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What can I expect from someone who calls himself a mook.

mook /muk/ –noun Slang. a contemptible, incompetent person. 

Your pro Judge not lest you be judged, so what did you do that you should fear righteous judgement.

Maybe it is you on the drugs.

Don’t be a mook.

Webs United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 08:33 AM

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To those TrueBelievers™ replying on this thread, and future ones… Talking Past Each Other: Few Simple for Christians Among Atheists.

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Kit United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 09:20 AM

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Jesus was a punisher. His job was to fullfill the curses of Torah.

Gee, I thought he was a Carpenter…. these ‘stories’ that you wrap yourself up in try to make you believe he was a ‘punisher’

Science is a study of what is. It still hasn’t proved how it got there. The energy that drives atoms has a source and the system has a logic not randomness.

Science IS the study of what is! Unless we can figure out how/where to create another Big Bang it will remain a Theory. The Energy of Atoms: See Quantum Mechanics. Want the “Theory of Everything”? I used to like String Theory, but Garrett Lisi’s new “Unified Theory” looks quite promising also!

You can say God doesn’t exist, because in the cursed world God hides from the people he hates and blindsides them. Everything they reach for will be moved out of reach.

Is that why when I worked for my Engineering degree he was not there to help me? Or when I was building my own house he was not there with a hammer? People get the things they want by hard work alone.

I tell you as a inner city firefighter, there is much oddity in death and tragedy.

Really? the way you speak you I would have thought that you were a man of the cloth… The city is human nature at it’s finest. We are all animals, like it or not, and when you have a million animals all packed together there will be violence.

I assume you will say the fear of the number 13 and not having 13th floor labels is not acutually happening.

I assume the saying only the good die young, has no connection to reality or the curse, I shall take you best and brightess.

Now you are just talking illogically.

Unscathed by reality but sufficatting on thier soft lies.

So Atheists are all lairs? That is quite a comment to make!

I understand your rebelion against religion, but against the creator, I cant rationlize your cold heartedness.

As mentioned before, must believe he exists to hate him. I only have a problem with the followers that try to tell ME what to believe!

A man from a strange land finds himself in an abandon house. He has never had knowlege of building a house.

That is because our Government/some church has given him a house…

You have ancient scrolls uncovered by scientist.

What about the book of judas? Christians seem to reject any text that does not fit into their current “belief”

But you do believe he exists. You have prayed to him and called his name. It is in everyone, you just work harder at silencing this truth. You work so hard at it that you dedicate hours online talking about it.

No I don’t think he exists. I believe more in Aliens with big green heads more. I have prayed to him, but that was back when I was a kid and everyone was pushing their belief on me. I do not usually spend hours online talking about it. But today I just want to save YOUR soul!


Now tell us how a jar of peanut butter proves the existence of god!

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zilch Sweden Posted on 06/05/2008 at 09:29 AM

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One last comment and I’m throwing in the towel.  Komosel, you say:

A man from a strange land finds himself in an abandon house.

*yawn* the argument from design again.  Who designed God?

Jesus did not lie when he said wars would come as a result of him coming. You say this is not evidence. But this is precisely what a prophet must do to be considered a prophet.

It hardly takes a prophet to predict war.  I’m a prophet too:  I predict there will be hunger in Africa before the year is out.  I’ve yet to see a Biblical “prophecy” that wasn’t just an ex post facto massaging of the text to yield a “prediction”.  Sorry, doesn’t wash.

But you do believe he exists. You have prayed to him and called his name. It is in everyone, you just work harder at silencing this truth. You work so hard at it that you dedicate hours online talking about it.

So you can read my mind, can you?  That’s quite a feat, especially considering the miles of land and ocean between us.  And while I do spend hours debating online, our exchange so far has cost me only a few minutes, as fast as I can type.

You can berate those who say God exists, but you can’t silence that inner voice. If you break your leg again on the motorcross, you will be asking him why once more.

Hey, I don’t berate anyone for what they believe.  Whatever floats your boat, more power to you, as long as you behave nicely and don’t try to get your superstitions into law or science classes.  And I’m unlikely to break my leg “again” on the motocross, seeing as I’ve never broken my leg a first time.  But I’ll be careful.

You can be a monkeys cousin if you want.

There seems to be some confusion here about the way the world works.  Either you and I are monkey’s cousins, or we are not.  What I want, and what you want, have nothing to do with it.  Personally, I find the story of evolution to be fascinating, beautiful, and even inspiring, much more so than the Bible.  But to each his own.

Webs- good advice on that link of yours.  Komosel, you might want to check it out: it could save a lot of wear and tear on our keyboards.  Here’s another site with advice about debating atheists, by Austin Cline.

cheers from rainy Vienna, zilch

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MisterMook United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 09:31 AM

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Maybe it is you on the drugs.

Nope. I think it’s pretty clear that’s you still.

Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 09:49 AM

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If I blame Santa for getting a lump of coal in my stocking, is that evidence that Santa exists?

What did you hang the stocking for to begin with. By the way Santa Clause is supposedly based on a real life person St Nicholas.

Now whoever put the coal in there is not the real Santa Clause, but they are smart enough to know coal is your reward. After all you hung a decoration for a man god that was chosen by fallen Jews much the same as the golden calf as a earth bound vessel for God. This is breaking the rules.


All this comparison to imaginary story board characters is flawed.

No one has ever said the Tooth Fairy made me do it. Or tooth fairy help me. Or why tooth fairy, why? Tooth fairy damn it. But they have replied as if prewired, Oh God, Jesus no, God damn it, why me God.

You do it yourself, do you not? You know how the whole thing works.

For someone who has no form and is not leaving money under the pillow or coal in stockings, he is amazingly popular. You can tell people the Easter bunny doesn;t exist and they will believe you. Yet correct me if I am wrong, some 95% of the people attest to belief in God.

These fairy tail books are a delight to read, not like chewing through cardboard of biblical text. Fairy tale books would not be popular if they threatened the readers that if they didn’t read them they would perish a most horibble death. Yet with all the nasty hard to read and boring stuff in the bible, it has miracoulusly reached virtually every corner of the earth, carrying with it the old testament that disproves the new testament. It is the best selling book of all time.

The Old Testament is predicted to spread through all the earth and it has (with its bastard brother the New Testament.)

Fairy tale books do not have a hero in the story that says he came to lead the fallen sinners to burn up the very same. Hi little boys and girls, I am here to make you fight and kill each other so sit back and enjoy the story.

Fairytale characters do not predict the holacaust and state they have come to lay an axe to the root of the nation that is Israel especiall when he was a Israli Jew.

Try marketing any product this way. Try marketing it to the Jews especially.

You talk about leprachans and ask me if I believe they exist. I doubt they exists but I will not say they never existed or do not exists with absoulte certainty. Such a lifeform could exist in the universe. After all, on this planet alone, we have many sizes and shapes of such as super crock, aligators and crocidiles.

Lastly, the locations and stories of Moses are stated as facts. The liniages and locations are genuine. The existence of multiple documents and artifacts show the Jews were resident in Israel. Is it possible that these stories written as fairly tales, certainly not. Is it possible they are part of an acient hoax, no. Because the prophecies are visible. Is it possible it is part of an acient hoax that continues to today thus someone conspired to make the prophecies happen, no.

Because the hoaxes of today are more lucrative.

Is christianity the fullfillment of deut 13, yes. Nothing fictional about that. Read it, it happened, he came.

Not a messiah but a punisher.

Les United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 10:17 AM

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I’ll give Komosel credit for being able to spew endless amounts of bullshit, but little else. He just can’t seem to grasp the idea that until he can present some evidence for God’s existence the rest of the nonsense he’s putting out is meaningless.

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komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 10:51 AM

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Who designed God?

This question is supposed to state that the God who created us could not exist because we do not know what lays beyond his level.


So atoms do not exist.  Because we don’t know where the energy that drives an atom comes from. Some say god, therefore according to you god does not exist because we don’t know where he came from, thus the energy does not exist to create atom, thus none of us exist.

Just because you do not have all the information does not mean the information you have is wrong.

We don’t know so it doesn’t exist. Where is the scientific rational?

Lets entertain the thought that God is just an alien that lives on another heaven. His messengers come down from the sky. Earth was once a heaven and there are seven heavens so this is another planet. And lets suppose the top alien has created us as part of an organic life form experiment to further his design. Lets go further and state that this scientist has the power to control the brain he created in this organic life form (hypnotist do this so maybe there is a backdoor wired in). Additionally this alien scientist has instituted a test on the organic subjects. Lets say he will destroy any of the organic creatures that fail or are hateful towards him. So he sets these, bad men against each other to eliminate them from his testing area.

Does it really matter who designed the more powerful alien scientist? Does it matter if their are other alien scientists. Does it matter that the world he lives in might have been created by the big bang? It is not our concern where our designer came from only that he is ultimately more powerful than us and is willing to keep us.

The whole story of the tower of Babel was that man tried to war with the heavens. They must have thought it was possible. Slam went the back door and everybody started speaking different languages. The OS was tweaked.

It hardly takes a prophet to predict war.

No, but to state that the war would be because of you personally and what you said for thousands of years, is above and beyond your predictions. He died at a young age. So I don’t think it is comparable at all. He was listening to the spirit in his head that told him what his actions and words would cause in the future. That is what he said and he is closer to what is going on in his head at that time than anyone else.

Call it the design if you will.

As far as advice on debating with atheists. If I took the advice then there would be no debate. Fact is the arguments of atheists are no greater than the arguments of any other belief. They make the same mistake of assuming their logic is infallible because everyone believes in their logic. Fact is it is flawed just as bad if not worse that the logic for any other belief you chose.

I have stated this to a friend the fact that the answer to which “belief” is illusive is all the more proof we are being tested by design where each answer is constructed to look correct. But with any test only one is accepted by the tester.

It is only one who truly has love and truth in their heart that they will seek out and find the God they knew long before anyone started putting ideas in their head. This takes strength as it requires you do not follow anything that is not true regardless how many lies are pushed on you.

I prayed to God when I was four. I lost him because of the evils of religious lies. He is real and worth paying respect to. His blessings can be seen if you achieve them and his curses can be seen in the news daily. He marks them with the sign of the one who came to punish the sinners.

At this level it is not a belief, it is knowledge.

I must note, I am not talking about a religion. I am talking about one book in the old testament, Deuteronomy. An open and closed contract between the creator and Abraham’s family and collected souls who joined him.

MisterMook United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 11:15 AM

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The more Komosel talks, the more I picture him dancing around in front of a mirror tucking his balls away and saying crap like “It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.”

Komosel Israel Posted on 06/05/2008 at 11:18 AM

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God’s existence the rest of the nonsense he’s putting out is meaningless.

You have proof. More proof than any quantum physics experiment has ever detected with all its instruments.

The proof is all around you. You simply are in rebellion against looking at it. So is everyone else but people are beggining to get a wiff of the stench.

You see the oddity of Jesus believers, you even posted about it.

You have begun to be the type of person who sees a shadow on the ground and denies it exists.

you might even say a shadow does not exits. It has no matter, no weight, etc, You would go further and say a shadow is not proof that something is blocking the light. All for your new religion athiesm.

You not a scientist a heart, just a god denier.

The shadow can be cast by spiritual things too.

Do it like a scientist. Take the rantings I give as previous work and watch the news, you do this for you web blog anyway. Research the realy odd articles and read the follow up text using google news alerts. Nearly 100% of the time the Jesus sin of a false God is not only present, it is painted with big letters. It is globally broadcast like some beaconing signal… “What not to do”

The formula if you do evil God will set you aside for evil states sinners are pitted against sinners. A false god (Jesus or what have you) is considered the biggest sin of all.

Watch the news for the shadow of God. He is always talking through his actions. Always some bible thumper blowing away the best and brightess of another bible thumper.

Test my scientific theory and you will have you shadow that proves God is standing right here.

zilch Sweden Posted on 06/05/2008 at 11:35 AM

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okay, Komosel, you win:  you’re original.  But as Les said, if we don’t believe in God, none of what you say has any relevance.  Even with an audience of believers, you would have an uphill battle with your idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible.

But no hard feelings.  Love yourself, love others, do good, and nothing else matters much.

cheers from overcast Vienna, zilch

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Kit United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 12:01 PM

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The more Komosel talks, the more I picture him dancing around in front of a mirror tucking his balls away and saying crap like “It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.”

I am totally with you there…

The more he types the more crazy I think he is…

Just because you do not have all the information does not mean the information you have is wrong.

but it also doesn’t mean that you are correct either….


I am done, this dude will never understand what is is like to be logical as we will never understand what it is like to follow blindly

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Les United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 01:09 PM

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Your link was pretty good, Webs. Vjack over at Atheist Revolution has a shorter, but still applicable entry on Witnessing to atheists that’s also worth a read by any Christians who happen to stumble across this thread.

And I suspect we’ve been linked to on a message forum someplace what with all the religious folks this thread has suddenly attracted. It’s been awhile since we’ve had a flood of True Believers™ on this scale.

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Les United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 01:13 PM

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Oh, and Komosel, I’ve long ago written you off as a blathering fool so don’t expect me to waste much time replying to you.

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 06/05/2008 at 03:11 PM

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Lets see where society progresses. Will we have the Jesus freak parents of murdered childred comforting the murderer stating they forgive them before the murderre evel asks for forgiveness. Maybe a society where a person can murder someones children and then sue the parents for giving him the opportunity. Oh yeah we already have this.

Talk about hypocryte.

Don’t quote that crap, till you think about it.

My eyes are open to reality but my viewpoint is most certailnly not yours.  The world is f*cked up, dont try to say it isn’t.

Wait a minute…are you calling ME a hypocrite? You don’t even know me buddy! Although I do give you the benefit of the doubt, it’s hard to tell what you actually mean; maybe you should ease up on the Meth a little bit.

I was actually figuring you’d tell me to not use the Bible, but I didn’t think you’d say that I should think about it first.  Man, don’t you know that thinking about the Bible is how I became an atheist in the first place? Maybe YOU should think about it. 

And if you people don’t actually want anyone other than members of your secret club(s) to use the Bible (meaning, use it against you) then maybe you should stop publishing it!

The more Komosel talks, the more I picture him dancing around in front of a
mirror tucking his balls away and saying crap like “It rubs the lotion on
its skin or else it gets the hose again.”

Actually, I suspect he spent several days trying to reconcile Time Cube with the Bible and fueled the whole thing with Lysergic Acid Salad topped off with Chopped Crystal Meth to which was added some chunked PCP, with Crack Sandwiches on the side, and washed it all down with several pints of Absinthe. The end result is what we see here.

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