SEB Mailbag: Creation in the 21st century?

Posted by Les on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 07:50 PM. Read 1716 times. Tags: , ,
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I received the following terse email just mere moments ago:

From: Don McClure <don.mcclure@insightbb.com>
To: Les Jenkins
Subject: Creation in the 21st century?

It’s proven that carbon 14 dating is a farse and if you want to believe you came from primates, be my guest. but i on the other hand believe that I was created by a HIGHER BEING or INTITY.( GOD ) THEY SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET THEM FREE! IF YOU KEEP READING AND STUDYING YOU WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO THE TRUTH.

Well that certainly wasn’t very convincing, but at least it wasn’t very time consuming either. Just enough to give me a quick chuckle as I dashed off a reply that asked for the proof of his claims.

Update: Don actually replied:

THAT’S WHAT THOMAS SAID TO MARY “SHOW ME THE PROOF”. THEN WHEN JESUS WAS THERE BEFORE HIM (THOMAS) & HIS EYES BEHELD THE SAVIOUR AND THOMAS PUT HIS HAND IN THE SPEAR WOUND ON JESUS’S SIDE, THEN “DOUBTING THOMAS” TOO BELIEVED. JESUS TOLD THE DESCIPLES “Y’ALL ARE BLESSED ‘CAUSE YOU BELIEVED BY “FAITH” BUT GOOD OLE THOMAS HERE HAD TO SEE ME FIRST WITH HIS OWN EYES!(paraphrased into Kentuckian lingo) Either your eyes will be opened to the fact that there is a God or maybe you are one of them the Bible refers to as the group of people that are predestined to be “blinded”. I pray you are not. Can you honestly SPIRITUALLY afford to NOT believe that there is a GOD? What exactly DO you believe?

When I asked for proof I was actually referring to his claim that carbon 14 dating had been proven, as he put it, to be a “farse.” I replied back explaining this, but told him that it would be pretty cool if he could arrange to have Jesus show up and let me put my hand in his spear wound.

Update 2: He’s back for more....

I personally cannot arrange for JESUS to drop in on you. Only YOU can arrange that, if you really want HIM. YOU CAN “CHAT” WITH HIM ANY TIME YOU WANT TO. YES GOD IS SMART ENOUGH TO TELL THE DIFFERENCES IN FAITH. FAITH COMES FROM THE HEART & GOD KNOWS OUR HEARTS. I NOTICED EVERYTIME YOU REFERRED TO GOD YOU TYPED A CAPITAL “G” WHICH MEANS “REVERENCE”. OR ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE AN ATHIEST. IF YOU CLAIM TO BE AN ATHIEST, LET ME TELL YOU THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ATHIEST BECAUSE TO STATE THAT ONE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN “GOD” IN ITSELF ADMITS THERE IS A “GOD “ NOT TO BELIEVE IN.

It’s getting a bit pathetic now. Too much like shooting fish in a barrel. He’s reciting from the kid’s edition of the Big Book of Converting the Heathens at this point.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 03:07 PM

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Luke would be your average drive-by wanker if it weren’t for his pointing out gay bread. Even as as avid baker I’ve yet to hear of such a thing and wonder if anybody can help me find a recipe.

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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.
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luke United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 03:47 PM

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ok u think all that mr.mountaineer. and you still dont have a life
mistermook i am not a christian nor am i looking for a gay cuddle. infact i did cuddle with your wife last night. she was amazing

Bastich United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 03:53 PM

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Wow. What’s next, yo’ momma cracks?  LOL Geeze Les, how do you keep from hunting these guys down and forcing some proper English lessons on them?

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I’ve often wondered how I can be a “godless heretic” when those who call me that are Christians.

Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 03/12/2008 at 04:50 PM

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Actually I’m glad Les doesn’t have a life, because if he hadn’t replied I’d still be wondering what gay bread was.

did cuddle with your wife last night.

You can try that with my wife if you like, it would be just like the Colusseum- y’know- a Christian getting ripped limb from limb.

average drive-by wanker

Eurgh- messy.

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MisterMook United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 05:27 PM

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You’ll all note that he didn’t refute the teenage virgin thing, which I guess is clear enough from the follow-up anyways.

swordsbane United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 07:55 PM

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luke:

ok the fact that you criticize someone one there beliefs proves that A. you have no life. B. the creator of the site looks like he has been homeless for the past 20 year of that gay bread. C. everyone that has posted on this board is probably in their 30’s and still plays video games. D. ok i know this one is true YOU ARE ALL SINGLE, cause i don’t know any woman that would want to date any of you.

Why do the fun people post when I’m at work??  Ah well… better late than never… unless you’re talking about contraceptives.

A. What does one who criticizes one who has no life because he criticizes one have?  Hmm… Wait.. that makes me one who criticizes one who criticizes one who criticizes… Dear Lord when will the circle of irony end??

B.

looks like he has been homeless for the past 20 year of that gay bread.

That question should be taken out and shot.  It’s obviously suffering.

C. I’m 40 and there are no such things as “video games” anymore.  Sheesh… ignorance is no excuse for lack of knowledge.

D.  Does getting laid a lot often count as “single” in this case?  I bring it up because it is slightly obscure.  How about sex with my ex-wife?  Is that really being “single”?  How about her sister?.. oh.. ah.. I probably went too far on that one… Never mind.. you’re right.. I’m very much “Single”

How do you like your mothers basement?

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leguru United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 08:54 PM

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Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.
Albert Einstein

One of my favorite Einsteins.

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swordsbane United States Posted on 03/12/2008 at 09:03 PM

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One of my favorite Einsteins

I like Old Al, but with regard to religion, few compare to Twain:

I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.
- Mark Twain

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MisterMook United States Posted on 03/13/2008 at 06:02 AM

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“I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.”

and

“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

both attributed to Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side

Coniki United States Posted on 04/03/2008 at 09:44 PM

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Anyone want to mail me a lot of useful information posted here? I’d like to learn, but alas no time to dig the net, if you could email me references, book names, and your opinions and how you reached those opinions it would be nice. People shouldn’t shoot off their mouth unless they state solid 100% evidence, which any of us at the most part do not know 100% about everything in the universe, so I figured I’d gather my information and start to learn the other 99% of stuff I supposedly don’t know.

To be straight and honest, unless you know 100% of everything in the universe, including peoples thoughts, actions, behaviors, animal thoughts for every second of the day, please don’t shoot off your mouth like you know it all. People like this sicken me.

My opinion is that both sides, if you were to base your information off this site, lack evidence at the moment of this post for me to evaluate in order to determine which side would win the debate.

As asked above, I want information emailed to me on the subjects, your views, and why you came to that conclusion.

As a side note to the person posting about getting rich off disclaiming people’s beliefs, there are far too many ways for a person to get rich, as defined as having 100k$ usd to invest at any moment in time. Our thoughts are the only thing that hold us back from achieving what our dreams are, another form of thoughts collected and put together over the years.

I deeply express my apologies for the idiots of the internet that do not first educate themselves on the subject, it’s not their fault they are too lazy to research a subject.

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/03/2008 at 10:28 PM

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Exhinit A:

As asked above, I want information emailed to me on the subjects, your views, and why you came to that conclusion.

Exhibit B:

I deeply express my apologies for the idiots of the internet that do not first educate themselves on the subject, it’s not their fault they are too lazy to research a subject.

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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.
Religion is answers that must never be questioned.
Politics is answers that lobbyists pay for.

leguru United States Posted on 04/03/2008 at 10:56 PM

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Elwed: I thought I was the only one who noticed that. I, however, didn’t want to point out the obvious, since it may be taken in a negative manner. You may point out to him that a search of this blog should bring him up to par in knowledge about the subject, though it may not convince him. Hey, sometimes I can’t even convince my wife. So, who am I?  LOL

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“What is a good man but a bad man’s teacher?
What is a bad man but a good man’s job?
If you don’t understand this, you will get lost,
however intelligent you are.
It is the great secret.” LAO-TZU

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