Ha! Reminds me of that INS guy in Coneheads that wanted to put collars on the illegal aliens that would explode if they crossed the border.

Mebs!

Bastard.

Another awesome post by les.

When I first read this I thought that Les was actually referring to the WWE wrestler Brian Gerard James. This must be proof that I am a complete moron.

The funny thing about Brian James’s dimwitted comment about the problem of illegal immigration in the US was that it actually wasn’t all that moronic considering the fact that the man is a talk radio host.

It is all too easy for American citizens who are living comfortably (particularly those who were born here and are of European descent) to condemn immigrants (illegal or otherwise) and accuse them of criminality, terrorism, etc. But if they could look beyond their own fear and bigotry and gain some objective insights pertaining to the situation, they might realize that their xenophobic arguments are hollow and misinformed, at best. I won’t pretend to be an expert on the debate, but here is a discussion that tackles and refutes some of the key points of the anti-immigration argument.

When will someone point out that unless our government acts quickly, gay illegal aliens could come here and get married, adopt some of our precious children, take every job that hasn’t been outsourced yet, then take the adopted children, load them with explosives and send them into government buildings, airports and the like for Al Qaeda?
I;m shocked that this hasn’t been mentioned.

It seems to me that every few decades in American history the great masses go on a nativist kick, horrified at the heathen opium-smoking Chinee, drunken illiterate Irish, Catholic wine-swilling Italians, conniving and Christ-killing Jews and whoever else threatens white-bread America with their foreign tongue and beliefs.  Then a generation or two passes, the immigrants’ kids become Americanized, and no one sees what the big deal was.

Granted, the situation this time is somewhat different.  Our economy isn’t really growing the way it used to be, but as I understand it most of the illegals don’t intend to stay here.  They work here a few years, send money back to Central or South America (or wherever) and eventually go back home.  Guest worker programs haven’t worked out for European countries, why should they do so for us?

Ugh, what an idiot.  I’m against illegal immigration at this point it time, but that doesn’t mean that human beings should be murdered, especially in such a cavalier manner.  As soon as I read his comment I had a mental image of some hick in a white bed sheet craddling a shotgun, laughing it up with his other sheet-clad buddies about how they just killed some “wetback”.

Sure, it’s satire.  Just really tasteless and offensive satire.  Not to mention seriously unhelpful satire.

I say fuck it. No penalties, let ‘em in, tag ‘em like the rest of us and let ‘em free range. Encourge
massive debt and homeownership. That should keep the economy from inploding another week or two..

...oh the taxes! AND the back taxes! AND the sales taxes!!

A political wet dream.

We got missiles to pay for, more wars to start and
I think were running short on troops.

shit.

shit i cant type - ever. ^n^m

Don’t forget economic exclusion and stepping on all the little people for celebrities.

Yeah, and the Klan thought killing people would stop the civil rights movement.

Haha, actually this probably was satire, except it wasn’t funny for an entirely different reason. 

We already do this shit. 

At least along the major throughways on the Californian Border. 

The one we drove the busses back after building the Clinic in Mexico with my church had coffins hanging on the sides of the freeway.  The coffins were there for Mexicans who had gotten shot and died hopping the border.  They’re playing Russian Roulette every time they hop that fence.  Funny thing is though, we watched a group of three Mexicans do it just while we were driving. 

Waitaminute, that’s not funny at all. 

I went thru the links to the (what I think was) the actual broadcast and listened to the wanker and – pardon me for being not real bright – but I couldn’t hear satire.
The bloke laughed once but it was NOT an ‘I am joking‘ laugh.
There was plenty of scope for another FUCKWIT ‘to take me seriously’ laugh.
As I have advertised – I am not real bright.

“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee. That’s just a joke, for you in the media.” - Ann Coulter

Quick note for hatefilled wingnut talking heads - if you have to tell us it’s a joke, it’s not a joke. If you have to explain it to us it’s not funny. Jokes are usually characterized by having a certain amount of humor content and generally a wide appeal so just because you and the other rats in your sewer get a chuckle out of it does not make it funny.

Y’know, that’s a really good point about what makes a joke a joke. Something that I’ve always realized yet never managed to pull out when it came to the discussion of this kind of rhetoric in the media.

But part of the joke is a context - I find South Park funny, and it carries just as much shock value.

So let’s look at the context. South Park: Entertainment TV, intended to be comedy. Right Wing Radio - intended for serious discussion and a little humour. Ann Coulter, politics.

It’s amazing how the gap between politics and entertainment (spontaneous comedy and rational thought especially, in the case of Ms. Coulter) has closed, with the hideous offspring resembling neither parent.

Are you kidding? That’s a great idea!

It would take alot of ammo. There are 50,000+ here in Denver alone.

you would not need too much Ammo,after the first Dozen or so Illegal Aliens are getting their Bones cleaned by the Vultures,word would get around quickly and the Sportsfans would be left with Boxes of unused Bullets.

Aparently all these poeple that stick up for illegals havent had thier wages effected by them. I’m a finish carpenter. that as to come in and work around shotty carpentry these greedy home builders allow because they only care about profit not quality. the homes I work in are pure shit. And this all do to cheap mexican labor. I can garaunty one thing is that you,ll never see a mexican as a finish carpenter. but it’s just a matter of time because we “ THE AMEICAN CRAFTMEN” are getting sick of the greed of the ameican home biulders.

In some ways national boundries seem somewhat arbitary, something arbitarily decided by war or diplomacy that’s out of our hands shouldn’t affect people’s lives. Someone could decide to split your country into smaller ones, then you would suddenly have immigrant status if you decided to move to an area where, if there hadn’t of been the splitting, you wouldn’t have that status, and you may face different job prospects through no fault of your own

it seems selfish to seperate people so those who would otherwise compete for work have to live in poverty and instability just so we can keep our unemployment down, cordening off all the bits we don’t like to their own disadvantage, It’s nobody’s fault to happen to be born in a less favourable economy, and the fairest thing to do would be to give everyone a chance with the same economy, no strict national boundries at all, more just a province’s name. Hell if there were no national boundries there could be no war. I admit for efficiency reasons it may be better to have local administrative government, as long as they are all part of the same whole with open economies, like in the EU

distant claws wrote -
“it seems selfish to seperate people so those who would otherwise compete for work have to live in poverty and instability just so we can keep our unemployment down, cordening off all the bits we don’t like to their own disadvantage, It’s nobody’s fault to happen to be born in a less favourable economy, and the fairest thing to do would be to give everyone a chance with the same economy, no strict national boundries at all, more just a province’s name. Hell if there were no national boundries there could be no war. I admit for efficiency reasons it may be better to have local administrative government, as long as they are all part of the same whole with open economies, like in the EU”

It’s selfish to have walls in your own home. Somebody may be hungry, or want a TV or stereo. We must not deny them the right to your stuff.

“It’s selfish to have walls in your own home. Somebody may be hungry, or want a TV or stereo. We must not deny them the right to your stuff.”

‘Cause God forbid you ever have to fight to keep what you have. That would take too much effort. For real, though - open trade policies and having no shelter are two entirely different things.

dc: Hell if there were no national boundaries there could be no war.

Recent wars that don’t involve national borders:

Iraq civil war
Vietnam war
Korean conflict (it was one country at the time)
US War On Drugs (lots of people have died and are dying because drugs are illegal)

As long as we don’t evolve past our tribal mentality, all kinds of atrocities can and will happen. Even then, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Recent wars that don’t involve national borders:

OK less war may be a more accurate wording on my part, especially when the war is against an organisation which isn’t contained within one nation. Apologies. Still it’s for the better though in avoiding wars against specific regimes.

A multinational organisation could be better handled by a multinational milatary/police that included local people, so the local civilians are more accepting of.

Ship them back with a copy of the US Constitution. Let them do the hard work of building a country. Build infrastructure, roads, etc.

I’m sorry their country sucks, but they need to fix their own country.