Oh, all right.  The principal issue is all washed up anyway.

I don’t know all the details, but man, a piss that lasts longer than five minutes! I mean, how else is it possible?

Throughput, my friend.  I don’t know about the Oktoberfest weenies, but in Austria they don’t stop drinking to pee.  It’s not for nothing that beer is called “Pische” here.

don’t know all the details, but man, a piss that lasts longer than five minutes! I mean, how else is it possible?

Spocko has obviously made a few evolutionary adaptations that we haven’t managed yet, or maybe he came down through a hitherto undetected line of descent from elephants, and retained the bladder capacity.

I guess I’m a little overdue for this, but speaking on my own behalf, welcome to SEB, Myxi.

Back to the original post made by Deoxy, currently my own University paper (the Gauntlet) is playing with the public in discussing ID. it’s funny, because so far, nobody who actually knows what they’re talking about has come to the defense of science (I hope that isn’t a bad editorial choice to decide which opinion to include for the evolution side, not that I don’t intend to write in and wtfpwn them all, anyway), while at least IDers are making some attempt to reference evidence and not just stammer on vaguely. I don’t think there’s any member of faculty who takes it as anything other than a political maneuver, though, being that I have not heard of any professors endorsing teaching the “controversy” in any of the departments - not even Communications and Culture. Of course, I haven’t sat down to a meeting with all of them either, although I suppose many wouldn’t bother coming regardless of the degree of advance notice they were given.

In any case, that’s the story from my end of the world.

The news from my end of the world: as far as I can tell, no one in Austria has even heard of Intelligent Design, except for one crazy expat American…

Yes, welcome “klt” (AKA Myxi)!
This place would be a bore if we all thought the same way.

Here’s a good site for you folks to take a gander at.

Gauntlet?  You from calgary, canada perchance?

I just went back and revisited a comment made earlier:

“Maybe God just made the universe with the appearance of being billions of years old.�?

The thought occurred to me:

What if Goddidit, and didn’t use intelligent design, but just to foil the fundies, created it with the appearance of design?

Damn straight. I’m in MS 211 right now, working on a Game Development Kit for a first-year course.

By the way, Myxi, check this out. It’s a pretty funny read.

I wonder what Myxi is going to make of some of Judge Jone’s comments on Behe’s so-called ID Theory:

First, defense expert Professor Fuller agreed that ID aspires to “change the ground rules” of science and lead defense expert Professor Behe admitted that his broadened definition of science, which encompasses ID, would also embrace astrology. Moreover, defense expert Professor Minnich acknowledged that for ID to be considered science, the ground rules of science have to be broadened to allow consideration of supernatural forces.
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What is more, defense experts concede that ID is not a theory as that term is defined by the NAS and admit that ID is at best “fringe science” which has achieved no acceptance in the scientific community.
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Moreover, cross-examination revealed that Professor Behe’s redefinition of the blood-clotting system was likely designed to avoid peer- reviewed scientific evidence that falsifies his argument, as it was not a scientifically warranted redefinition.
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We therefore find that Professor Behe’s claim for irreducible complexity has been refuted in peer-reviewed research papers and has been rejected by the scientific community at large.

Damn, even a conservative Bush appointed judge has a better grasp of the issue than Myxi does. Sad, but true.

Indeed, Les.  It’s already been suggested that ID should rename itself “BI”, after Judge Jones’ characterization of the Dover School Board’s decision to tout ID as “breathtaking inanity”.