Protesters outside Schaivo’s hospice are a bit on the nutty side.

Posted by Les on Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 07:20 PM. Read 1222 times. Tags: ,
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There have been a lot of people holding vigil outside of the hospice where Terri Schiavo resided throughout the past few weeks. When word finally came this morning that she had passed away many of them were understandably upset. They had all put a lot of passion and emotion behind their vigil as well as more than a little wishful thinking, but a select few of them demonstrated a worrying lack of sanity about it.

Upon hearing the news, Patrick Bautch, of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, disgustedly tossed away a sign that said “President Bush, Please Help Terri.”

“He could have done something,” Bautch said. “He was supposed to be for life and he neglected his role. ... The value of human life has just gone down the drain.”

OK, nothing too horrible with that comment other than it implies that Mr. Bautch believes the President has the power to do whatever the hell he wants regardless of what the law says or the courts have decided or the people involved want.

A few feet away, a small group burst into hymns, singing the traditional song, “How Great Thou Art,” as Richard Jacobson, of Corning, New York, accompanied them on a tarnished trumpet.

Jacobson, who has been playing religious and patriotic music outside the hospice for the past three days, said he didn’t really believe that Terri was dead.

“I’m not believing the report of man,” the bearded man said. “God will raise her from the dead, and all the world will see it.”

Now this guy has lost touch with reality and has apparently confused Terri with Jesus Christ. As far as I’m aware, JC has been the only person to do the ‘lookit me I’m not really dead” routine so far in history, if you believe in that Bible thing at least, so why God would suddenly decide to have Terri provide an encore performance of that trick is beyond me. It also leads me to wonder if he thinks God would bring her back to life fully restored or just to the state she was in prior to death. Wouldn’t that be kinda cruel if God were to bring her back to life, but leave her in a persistent vegetative state?

After the announcement, Mike Stafford, of Hollywood, Florida, stood before police, who had arrested more than 50 people trying to bring water to Schiavo, gave the Nazi salute and shouted “Heil Hitler.”

“It’s really sick what we’ve seen here,” Stafford said.

This guy isn’t so much of a crazy as he is an asshole. He removes all guilt I sometimes feel about referring to the overly fundamentalist Christians in this country as the American Taliban. These people need to get a friggin’ hobby and stop sticking their damned noses in where it doesn’t belong.

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moses United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 08:17 PM

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Regarding your comment abut the fundamentalist “right arm, man, ...right arm!

moses United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 08:22 PM

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Disregard that last comment, after seeing it print it makes no sense whatsoever!

kat United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 08:46 PM

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Did you see the jugglers? How about the guy who let his 10 year old kid get arrested and then he was picked up at the hospice because he’s a frigging child molester!!
How about all the horn blowers and noise makers? That place was a fucking 3 ring circus. I almost wanted to go up there and just take pictures of the loonies for fun. They looked like wack jobs on local tv…lmao

Dave M. United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 08:49 PM

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You want to see sad…

http://www.darjeelingirl.com/archives/2005/03/31/stronggod-have-mercy-on-usstrong/

Plus, there is a whole list of people out there all going bonkers over this:
http://www.blogsforterri.com/

This site has a list powered by Blogrolling that contains hundreds of nut cases all showing their stuff. :shiver:

All I can say is that I’m glad it’s over for her, and it angers me that she wasn’t allowed to die more peacefully in the comfort of family without millions of onlookers and new media out to make a buck off of her suffering.

Now if only humans could put this kind of energy into real problems like ending this war…

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 08:56 PM

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As far as I’m aware, JC has been the only person to do the ‘lookit me I’m not really dead� routine so far in history
- Les

Lazarus (John, chapter 11) also did that “lookit me, I’m not really dead!” trick, too, but he had Jesus’ help.  I always wondered if he died again later, or if he ascended into heaven and didn’t die, or if he died again later (violating the bible’s assertion that we only die once - Heb. 9:27) only to be raised again on ressurrection day.

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 08:58 PM

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Whoops - I wrote, “died again later” twice, but maybe it’s a sign from doG, like Lazarus’ ressurrection.

Mayo United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 09:47 PM

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From UNCLE JOHN"S BATHROOM READER- PLUNGES INTO HISTORY AGAIN.

Christian Europe: In 1591, a woman in England was convicted of recieving a certain unnamed medicine to help relieve labor pain. She was found guilty of witchcraft, chained to a stake, and burned to death.
    It always seems that the christian view of morality changes even though the book hasn’t changed (not counting “new” translations) in 2000 years. The tone of the morality changes whenever people finally get tired of the B.S.
    Advances in medicine have gone from being considered trying to play god and evil to being exactly what god wants.

kat United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 10:13 PM

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dave M. This is my favorite comment from the second site you posted.

I love the Holy Father. I think his suffering is closely linked to Terri’s suffering. They will become known in history as a pair like J.F.K and Martin Luther King.

They’re going to try and make her a saint now or something…lol
Wacked. Just wacked.

shana Japan Posted on 03/31/2005 at 10:37 PM

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What a spectacle!  All I can do is shake my head in disappointment.

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TexasMarine United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 11:31 PM

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I may have been for keeping her alive, but everyone who was yelling for intervention by Bush and Perry to intervene must have missed the whole “not above the law” idea.

A Saint? I doubt it, but this may very well be the Roe v. Wade of Euthanasia cases.

Justice United States Posted on 03/31/2005 at 11:47 PM

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Les - Agreed. So well said. Every word.

leguru United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 12:56 AM

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How about Mithra, and the Dahli Lama? And is this the innocent life that will be taken before the Seventh Seal is broken? Boy!! Are we in for it, now! LOL

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zilch Austria Posted on 04/01/2005 at 02:41 AM

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What a spectacle!

Shana, my brother said to me once, “sometimes you just have to relax and enjoy the Spectacle”.  But this particular spectacle is too unsettling to really enjoy wholeheartedly.  Sure, a lot of the absurdity is funny, but the level of passionate stupidity is frightening.

Terri Schiavo deserved, as we all deserve, to die a dignified death.  That right was wrested from her, and she became a media porn.  Luckily, she was oblivious to it all.  Unfortunately, she has become an unholy focus for crazies of all ilks, who will do their best to inflict their madness on the rest of us.

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Slick United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 04:13 AM

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There was also Dorkus DOF…that would be the Little Girl who Jesus raised.  As well as an instance of an disciple breathing the breath of life into a dead man…though that sounds more like the first instance of CPR than necromancy to me.  wink  I’m too lazy to look up verses right now, maybe later.  But so long as you’re going to talk about people being raised from the dead (aside from Jesus), there’s a precedent.

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 06:56 AM

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I forgot about Dorcas! (AKA, Tabitha)  She was raised by the disciple Peter, who raised her with the Aramaic phrase, “Tabitha, cum” which always sort of gave me the giggles.  And Jesus raised a girl named Talitha (the one you mentioned) with the same phrase.  Oooooooo!

Boy, a guy with a stethoscope could really clean up back then.  I wonder how many people really were buried alive?

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 06:58 AM

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Oh, and by the way… the same contradictions about “once to die, then the judgement” apply to both Tabitha (Dorcas) and Talitha.  Did they die again, or what?

***Dave United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 10:58 AM

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A Saint? I doubt it ...

Actually, I could see it happening.  Certainly as a martyr (though I expect to hear of miracles being done in Terri’s name, or at her intercession, any day now).

*sigh*

Best Lazarus “answer” I ever heard was in Bill Willingham’s “Elementals” comic.  Stuck in a permanent raised-from-the-dead condition (Jesus not having put in an expiry date), Lazarus found himself shunned by his friends and family (“Dude, you were *dead*—that is *seriously* creepy, getouttahere!”), and went on to start accumulating occult knowledge, initially to find a way to die, but eventually becoming a powerful evil wizard out to destroy the world (presuming that would destroy him, too).

Talk about the law of unintended consequences ...

joe United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 11:44 AM

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Actually, I could see it happening.  Certainly as a martyr (though I expect to hear of miracles being done in Terri’s name, or at her intercession, any day now).

I’m no expert on Biblical/Catholic law when it comes to making someone a saint, but it’s my understanding that committing suicide is considered a major sin.  What of attempted suicide?  Also as major a sin, a sin of a lesser degree, or what?

I read that Terri’s condition was brought on by an eating disorder—it strained her heart, cut the flow of oxygen to her brain, etc.

Terri may not have really intended “to commit suicide”, and I’m not trying to trivialize eating disorders, but I wonder if this would disqualify her from becoming a saint?

—Joe

serge Canada Posted on 04/01/2005 at 01:17 PM

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A person has to have in their portfolio at least 2 miracles that they performed in order to be named saint….

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 01:28 PM

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She got Jesse Jackson and Sean Hannity to sit down together and agree on something.  That’s one.

Ibbits Canada Posted on 04/01/2005 at 02:42 PM

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Having eschewed my catholic roots a long time ago, I’m not entirely certain of my knowledge of saints, but I’d bet a paycheck (one of my husband’s even) that there are saints whose miracles didn’t happen until after their death. We have many miracle opportunities with Terri’s possible autopsy, two funeral services and the laundering of the bed linens on which she died.

That’s some fertile miracle ground if I ever saw it.

kent Great Britain (UK) Posted on 04/01/2005 at 05:33 PM

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“A person has to have in their portfolio at least 2 miracles that they performed in order to be named saint.”
And proof of WMDs are required to go to war.
Rules are for bending wink

As for Terri RIP
As for the nutjobs raising a ruckus outside the Hospice.Have some consideration for the dying you tossers.

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 07:33 PM

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(Cursed with unending life, Lazarus goes on to destroy the world…)

Jesus: “Doh!”

Ragman United States Posted on 04/01/2005 at 11:25 PM

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On the Daily Show (last week?), Falwell(?) saying about Shiavo case(I thought) “The Rabbi’s absolutely right”. 

Miracle 2?

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Frumpa Australia Posted on 04/04/2005 at 01:32 AM

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Slick- that sounds more like necrophilia to me! - Bleah!

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