Got it?  Only the Republicans can keep you safe.  Don’t let the Democrats Terrorists win!!!

Torture will happen whether we have a bill against it or not.  Legislation against it would simply cover politician’s arses’s -the same politicians that would tell people to “get the job done” with the underlying, unspoken understanding that their pawns should use whatever means necessary as long as they spare the politician the gory details.  Plausible deniability is the name of the game.

I don’t understand why people think credible information comes out of people that are willing to die and hate us with an amazing passion, from torturing and tormenting them. Why would they give any credible information?

Even so, is it worth it? Is hurting another human for possible information that might help worth it? How many more terrorists are created by the War and torture? It seems to me as if we are in a circular loop now that will never end. Bush has essentially fucked us by creating an endless stream of people that hate us and it will take years before we can attempt to say, we don’t hate you and we want to make things better, we want to help.

To the best of my knowledge, the most effective interrogators during WWII (on both sides) were those who treated their captives humanely.

For all the tortured rhetoric, it’s perfectly obvious to anybody but the self-deluded that the U.S. does indeed torture. Sooner or later, this will come back to haunt Americans. It further undercuts any claims to the moral high ground and serves as recruiting material for America’s enemies abroad. And not to forget what will predictably happen to future American captives, who can’t expect to be treated better than they’ve treated others. The problem with the “might makes right” principle is that might is not forever and there are two overriding principles: “the tables will turn” and “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander"…

Oh well. At least we’re so much safer now than we were six or seven years ago.