On the death of Nick Berg and what the real problem is that caused it.

Posted by Les on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 06:50 PM. Read 2163 times. Tags:
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The big news yesterday was the video of the death of Nick Berg at the hands of hooded men claiming to be part of al Qaeda which was posted to a website associated with that terrorist group. Descriptions of Nick’s graphic beheading have been all over the news media since the video was released, not to mention the blogosphere, and the number one thing people have searched for here at SEB in the past 24 hours is links to the video itself. Up until this entry I didn’t have any links to sites hosting the video, but if you feel the need to see it then over at Wizbang they have an entry up with links to the video as well as an ongoing debate in the comments on the appropriateness of providing said links. The argument over whether the guys at Wizbang should have linked to the video is silly in my mind as the video is already out there on the Net and anyone who really wants to see it won’t have to search too hard to find a copy of it someplace. Whether or not you should watch the video is a choice only you can make, but if you have any doubts then my advice is to avoid it as it’s probably more disturbing than you imagine.

As for myself, I decided to watch it, but not out of morbid curiosity. My decision was based on the need to understand first hand what others had seen so I had a proper frame of reference to judge their reactions by. I didn’t want anyone trying to claim that I couldn’t understand the emotions they were feeling because I hadn’t seen the video. I had a pretty good idea of what the video would be like from the various written accounts of it I’ve read and I’m pretty good at keeping my emotions in check over things of this nature, but the video still had quite an emotional effect on me. Unlike many other people, however, the emotion I experienced was despair.

I already had a good idea of how a lot of people were going to react to the video regardless of whether they had seen it and checking around the blogosphere my suspicions seem to have been borne out. Those of a Conservative mindset are loudly proclaiming their anger and outrage not only at the perpetrators of this crime, but at their favorite targets such as The Liberal Media™ and anyone who isn’t expressing a similar emotional response (read: Liberals in general). Those of a more Liberal mindset either aren’t talking about the story all that much or seem to be trying to claim it’s a direct result of the Bush administration or a American foreign policy in general. Both sides point at the other and prattle on about what’s wrong with their way of looking at the whole situation. The reality is that all sides of the debate have at least some kernels of truth in their grasp, but none of them have a lock on the truth as a whole and too many people want to over-simplify things to suit their particular viewpoints.

Many Conservatives want to say that Nick Berg’s death makes the Abu Ghraib scandal pale in comparison, but the truth is that at least two Iraqi prisoners died as a result of the activities at Abu Ghraib. Simply because they weren’t beheaded nor had their deaths broadcast from a website doesn’t in any way make their deaths any less of a crime than Nick Berg’s. Many Liberals want to lay the blame for Berg’s death on the Bush administration as a direct result of the Abu Ghraib scandal which they feel the Bush administration encouraged. The truth is that there is no evidence that anyone involved in the Bush administration knew about the conditions developing at Abu Ghraib nor directly or indirectly gave permission or instructions for the activities that took place. So while it may be arguable that Nick Berg’s death is directly a result of the scandal that doesn’t mean the blame for it is in part or in whole the fault of the Bush administration itself.

These are just two examples of the sort of arguments flying back and forth and all of the different arguments fail to consider what I feel is probably the real crux of the problem: Our tendency toward Tribalism.

Tribalism has been a part of human nature since the beginning and it pervades much of our thinking on every kind of human relationship. Simply put it’s the “Us vs. Them” mentality that at one time in our history was a very beneficial way to view the world when competing over limited resources and struggling to survive day to day. It was an effective tool and thus it became ingrained in our nature and still affects how we think of ourselves in relation to others to this very day. By and large this isn’t necessarily a bad thing as it often manifests itself in relatively harmless forms such as declaring ourselves to be Red Wings fans or Linux enthusiasts and so on. Even though being a member of either of those two examples is in no way a matter of survival it doesn’t stop us from feeling like a part of the group and committed to supporting its causes or ambitions. We take ridiculous amounts of pride in whatever successes our “tribe” manages to accomplish even if we had nothing to do with that success (e.g. winning the Stanley Cup) and when a member of the tribe somehow screws things up the sense of betrayal and anger is very real (e.g. Cubs fan Steve Bartman, the most hated man in Chicago). Modern professional sports wouldn’t earn anywhere near what it does if not for tribalism. It’s a useful tool for uniting people behind all manner of causes and organizations both silly and serious by creating an emotional investment and impetus to action for the members of the “tribe.”

It’s not all good, though. The downside to tribalism comes in the form of conflict when two or more “tribes” with opposing goals clash. The partisan bickering that takes place in politics between Democrats and Republicans is a perfect example of the negative aspects of tribalism. It can result in things such as legislative grid lock where nothing gets accomplished as well as plenty of political back stabbing. Too often emotional tribalism ends up replacing rational discourse as a means of solving problems. Rather than honestly considering the implications of a particular solution to a particular problem we’ll fall back on “towing the party line” which, depending on who’s leading the tribe, can be a very dangerous shortcut to take. Tribalism and the “Us vs. Them” mentality is reinforced by all aspects of society such as governments (I Pledge Allegiance...), religions (Thou shalt have no other God before me...), political groups, sports teams, video game console makers, shoe companies, fast food restaurants, TV networks, and so on. You could sit here all day just listing off the different groups, organizations, companies and such that promote tribalism. When you mix in the fact that in today’s world everyone is often a part of many different tribes which may share closely aligned goals the influence that can be brought to bear on the thinking of members can ramp up quickly. When taken to its extremes the mentality of “Us vs. Them” can then result in the unthinkable becoming not only possible, but acceptable.

It’s that extreme version of tribalism that made Nick Berg’s beheading and it’s subsequent broadcast on the Internet not only possible, but morally acceptable to the people who participated in it. It’s the same line of thinking that made the death of 600 Muslims at the hands of Christian militiamen in Nigeria not only possible, but morally acceptable to the people who participated in it. It’s the same sort of thinking that made the Holocaust not only possible, but morally acceptable to the people who participated in it. It’s the same sort of thinking behind groups such as the KKK, the Branch Davidians, the Black Panthers, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Nazi’s, the neo-Confederates, the Westboro Baptist Church, the Jewish Defense League, Volksfront, among many more. It’s exactly the line of thinking used by individuals such as Timothy McVeigh, Bernhard Goetz, James Kopp and countless suicide bombers.

Looking around at the various responses folks have written to Nick Berg’s death it’s easy to see this same thinking in use. Azygos’ comment and Wolfe’s comment (among many others) on Wizbang, Kiril Kundurazieff’s blog entry, D-Coy’s blog entry, Tom’s blog entry, and the comments of Ken right here on SEB just to list a few. By and large for a lot of these people this is just a way of blowing off some steam from what is in all reality a very emotionally disturbing event, but for some folks the logic of Us vs. Them would justify acts as bad, or worse, than what inspired their anger in the first place. The futility of this line of thinking is exemplified by the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. First one side kills a bunch of people in self-righteous indignation then the other side exacts deadly retribution which prompts the first group to exact revenge for the retribution which prompts the other side to kill more people to “discourage” continued attacks which ends up only providing the first side with more fuel for the fire and the cycle continues on and on while both sides claim that the other side is “evil” and that God is on their side and that the other guys started it anyway so there. It’s almost as if no one is able to take a step back and see that both sides are making similar claims as their opponents. Folks are describing the people who killed Nick Berg as being Evil and Satanic. The people who killed Nick Berg describe Americans as Evil and Satanic. Both sides feel that God is on their side and will send the opposition to Hell for their crimes. Both sides try to paint the other as being less-than-human animals worthy of nothing but being put out of their misery.

This is why I felt despair after watching the horrific video of Nick Berg’s death. Unlike so many others I didn’t see Evil Personified in the people who killed Nick anymore than I saw it in Timothy McVeigh. It doesn’t take a supernatural evil for people to act like this. All it takes is a cause and a willingness to give in to the Us vs. Them mentality and that’s a hell of a lot scarier than the thought of Old Scratch at work. Look throughout history and it becomes clear that all manner of atrocities can be traced to this one way of thinking about other people. Us = Good versus Them = Evil. The real problem is that there are so many societies in the world today where this sort of extremist thinking is condoned and encouraged and so many individuals out there who would have it no other way. In the past before mass communication and global travel this was less of an issue as the damage these people could cause was limited to themselves and their neighbors, but this hasn’t been the case for a very long time now. Western society, while far from perfect, is ahead of the game compared to many other societies in this regard which is why it’s so damaging when we fuck up on things like Abu Ghraib. How can we convince these other societies that rising above tribalism and the Us vs. Them mentality is to everyone’s benefit when things like Abu Ghraib show that we’re just as capable of using that line of thinking to justify our actions as the societies we’re trying to elevate? On top of that it doesn’t help when our leaders use Us vs. Them rhetoric constantly when rattling their sabers.

Tribalism is ingrained in human nature for better or for worse and that’s not in itself a bad thing, but unless we can manage to keep it from going to extremes in ourselves and help others to do the same then I see no end to all the bloody and horrific conflicts or the brutal deaths of folks like Nick Berg.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 05/20/2004 at 10:48 PM

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Speaking for myself, I’d like SEB and forums rolled into one.

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lazerith United States Posted on 05/21/2004 at 12:09 AM

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Have any of you heard the English spoken in the video?  If you go to aprox. 5:12 you can hear “How will it be done?  How will we know...?” This was the final straw that convinced me it was a cover up.

Brock United States Posted on 05/21/2004 at 12:49 AM

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VernR,
Berg was in Baghdad from late December to February 1st, then returned to Iraq in March.
He had been detained (allegedly) by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24th, under suspicion of possible involvement in illegal or terrorist activities. He was released April 6th. On April 9th he went missing again. On May 11th his body was found on a Baghdad overpass, yet the video of his beheading was dated May 11th. If the May 11th date is the true date, a lot was accomplished in one day by retrieving the body, identifying the body, posting the news to websites as early as 7:30 am, reporting to congress and administration heads, and full stories, including details of the videoed beheading, were ready for the daytime news. It seems those who would have to approve it’s release really wanted this story out quickly.

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Les United States Posted on 05/21/2004 at 06:36 AM

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Elwedriddsche, that may yet come to pass. For the moment, though, I’m going to work on getting at least some of the content added into the SEB site.

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VernR United States Posted on 05/21/2004 at 03:10 PM

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Brock, Thanks.

There are so many conspiracy theories. One is dedicated to the premise that the NORAD was told to stand down on 9/11.

http://911timeline.net/ (You have to scroll down a bit to get the time line itself.) or
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ELS305A.html

If you care to go into it further here are links that show the flight paths of the four airliners and NORAD’s less than satisfactory new release.

http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/15m/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/graphics/hijack091101.htm
http://www.standdown.net/noradseptember182001pressrelease.htm

The recent story about the FAA QA manager shredding the tapes of the recollections of the 9/11 controller’s just fans the flames.

A well sourced time line titled An Interesting Day: President Bush’s Movements and Actions on 9/11 is at.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html

I don’t recall any allegations of ‘standing down’ in this one.

TakeBackTheMedia put out this Flash video to counter the administration’s contention that Bush was in charge on the morning of 9/11. It is really well done they know how to use images, and they force you to watch them. (Mozart is always good.)

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

There was a great deal of confusion that morning but you really have ask what in the world was the President doing, why did it take so for the NORAD to get involved, and why did it take so bloody long for Bush to issue the shoot down order.

There will always be conspiracy theories, but this administration’s fetish for secrecy tends makes them seem more credible.

Brock United States Posted on 05/21/2004 at 04:18 PM

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You’re welcome Vern, and thanks for the links you gave. If you follow one of the the links I gave, you’ll read very plausible explanations for why 9/11 happened so easily - Tenet and Boren assumed the terrorists would use passengers as hostages to negotiate releases of terrorists held by the US government. This coupled with their inabilities to imagine suicide crashes into buildings and their desires to be heroes and foil hostage demands may very well be why so many planes were allowed to verge from their flight paths.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=2909

9/11 is the biggest cover-up since JFK’s assassination and dwarfs it in my opinion. (Is it PC to say something dwarfs something else?)

Les, would you consider putting a column of the Forums recent comments on the main page like the present recent comments section?

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VernR United States Posted on 05/24/2004 at 04:34 PM

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Medical expert thinks video was faked.

http://www.buzzflash.com/mediawatch/04/05/wmw04058.html

//Asia Times Online, Hong Kong--BERG BEHEADING: NO WAY, SAY MEDICAL EXPERTS ("I certainly would need to be convinced it [the decapitation video] was authentic,” Dr John Simpson, executive director for surgical affairs at the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, said from New Zealand. Echoing Dr Simpson’s criticism, when this journalist asked forensic death expert Jon Nordby, PhD and fellow of the American Board of Medicolegal Death Investigators, whether he believed the Berg decapitation video had been “staged”, Nordby replied: “Yes, I think that’s the best explanation of it.")

Les United States Posted on 05/24/2004 at 04:49 PM

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Hmmm. The full article is even more interesting. I’m beginning to wonder about this myself and I’m not prone to conspiracy theories.

Brock, didn’t see your earlier request about getting a list of current topics on SEB from the forums, but I plan to do just that.

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Spocko United States Posted on 05/24/2004 at 07:05 PM

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Bush is using him right now!

Spocko United States Posted on 05/24/2004 at 07:10 PM

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I should mention I’m watching his speech to the War College at the moment.
Seems he only knows how to “preach to the choir”.

VernR United States Posted on 05/26/2004 at 11:58 AM

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I snoozed twice during the speech. (Medical reasons this time, I won’t have any excuse next time.) He did have something new to say—he provided three new pronunciations of Abu Ghraib.

Today the New York Times carried an article discussing Nick Berg and how he wound up in Iraq.

In high school Berg was a tinkerer/inventor, and as a student at Cornell he did rather well in engineering courses. However his interests and goals changed during a one semester exchange program in Uganda (1998). There he invented a brick making machine to help the villagers maintain their huts, and became committed to inventing solutions to Africa’s problems. After returning to the US, he transferred to Drexel, the University of Pennsylvania, and the University of Oklahoma trying to work out how to reduce his Africa ideas to practice. Berg left school in 2000 and wandered into his microwave tower business.

Berg’s parents are secular Jews. Berg himself became religious after college and became attracted to concept of healing the world through social action.

The article mentions that there are conspiracy theories about Berg, but is pretty much dismissive. (No insight at all as to whether Drexel and the University of Pennsylvania have CIA ties.) It adds little to what we already know about his time in Iraq.

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