Mormons who edit Hollywood Blockbusters - All Opinions Welcome!

Posted by Deoxy on Friday, December 30, 2005 at 05:56 AM. Read 5428 times. Tags: ,
{name} pic[Editor's note: I think we've covered this one before on SEB, but I can't find the entry. It's been awhile since this first came to the forefront, but it appears the lawsuits haven't made their way through the courts yet.]

Here is a link to some info about a bunch of Mormon folks who have been editing Hollywood Blockbusters for what they adjudge to be unnecessary content which includes;

1) Violence - Sometimes only Gory Violence
2) Sex Scenes
3) Profanity
4) Suggestive language
5) Blasphemy

and in some cases
6) Homosexuality

I've just seen an A&E Documentary called "Bleep: Censoring the Movies" which was very interesting. It showed these "Flick-Cleaner-Upper" companies and how they work.

They work by basically taking existing movies and editing them on their computers to remove/obscure/dub content they don't like. There inst a financial issue because they have to buy a copy of each movie every time they sell one - so they supposedly aren't schtupping Hollywood of their money, but many Hollywood Directors (at least 15 named in a lawsuit including Stephen Soderberg and other Academy Award Winners) still strongly object about their intellectual property being battered in this manner - they see this as an intellectual property and artistic integrity issue - I agree.

One company has a more hi-tech opinion which handles movies kind of like a v-chip in a TV which allows each specific category of "offensive" material to be removed "on-the-fly".

Particularly difficult for me to accept is the fact that some of the movies that were cleaned up include "Saving Private Ryan" and "Schindler's List". Both sides of my family - my own British side and my wife's American side - have survivors and victims of WWII violence - I want everyone to know the true horror of war - not a sanitized version of it.

Something I find that particularly offensive - to remove the image of a young soldier lying on Normandy Beach attempting to hold his intestines in his body whilst writing in pain so that they can be rid of a part of a movie they narrowly adjudge to be "unnecessarily violent" is truly the height of ignorance in my opinion.

Personally my opinion is that if you are not willing to accept a director's vision - sex, violence and bad language included - then you should not receive the gift of that movie at all.

Art is art.

If you find the nude male figure offensive then you should not see ANY of Michaelangelo's "David" or of Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man". To make and sell censored copies would be as offensive to me as it is for them if I used the words "Jesus Christ!" as a curse.

Anyone else feelin' me here, homies?

Regards,

Deoxy.

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***Dave United States Posted on 01/05/2006 at 02:21 PM

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That said, I agree that living in fear is a poor choice, and teaching people to live in fear often means you’re trying to sell them something.

nowiser United States Posted on 01/05/2006 at 05:14 PM

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Taken in excess, certainly the. . .first of those can be dangerous

LIES!

*smack*
go immediately to the board, and write, 300 times ‘Caffeine is our friend!

(hey, I gave up booze and cigarettes.  Let’s not push me to the absolute edge of sanity here, eh!)

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It vexes me when they would constrain science by the authority of the Scriptures, and yet do not consider themselves bound to answer reason and experiment—Galileo

Deoxy United States Posted on 01/05/2006 at 05:39 PM

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***Dave -

Um ... did Les delete #3?

And isn’t that the number of the Holy Trinity?  MERE COINCIDENCE?!

No, I’m just a Mucking Foron and hit the Brong Wutton.

I also want to say thanks to Leguru and Jason (Jason_ex_moron_er_I_mean_mormon) for their very interesting, humorous and honest portrayal of those loony mormons whom I think are the most misled bunch of cultists since the Davidians and/or Manson’s “Family”.

Great posts guys.

Thank you to Les for what sounded like the benefit of the doubt.

I’m goint to start a new topic tonight I think and leave this one alone - I think this just got a little too heated and ridiculous in a way so maybe we should close this thread.

One thing to note about this subject is that since I saw that show several of the companies who produce the cleaned movies have gone out of business or quit through frustration because of Hollywood and the law suits whih restrict their business.

Anyway. I welcome other comments here but I’m going to be starting a new topic which will probably be where I’ll be hanging out for a week or so.

Thanks to Brock, DecrepitOldFool, ***Dave, Consigliere and anyone else who posted.
I may not agree with others here, they may hate me or think I’m a big fat lying kooky commie terrorist-loving amoral asshole and I may have several exchanges of sparring posts with different people but those discussions are inteersting too and they force me to think about my position too.

Thanks and All the best to all of you,

Until next time,

Deoxy

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 01/05/2006 at 11:12 PM

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Deoxy, although I didn’t find your story believable, please don’t think I have any negative feelings toward you.  You seem to feel things very intensely, especially art - I wish people paid more attention to art and design.  It makes for a richer, more wonderful existence.

Manna United States Posted on 07/25/2006 at 01:39 PM

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I am a Mormon, but I do agree partly with all of you.

I believe that if some families (Mormons arent the only ones who edit movies by the way) want to edit a movie and cut out whatever they feel is inappropriate, then let them! they arent making you watch it, so chill out.

Personally, I wont be editing movies anytime soon. I am a fan of the Fast forward button when I feel it is necessary, but that is rare.

As long as the money goes to the right place and the viewer is happy, there should be no problem. We aren’t making you watch our versions and we aren’t going to tell you to edit the movies you watch.  smirk

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