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WTF is this Stormfront site?  White pride? People take pride in ignorance and stupidity?

P.S.  Les:  Know of any reason I lost my gravatar (sp)?

Cindi, that’s probably because the gravatar service is wonky. Other people had problems in the recent past.

Cindi: People take pride in ignorance and stupidity?

Tragically, yes.

Cindi, I’ve removed the Gravatar code for the time being because it was playing hell with the site. You’ve registered an account so, if you don’t mind, just upload your avatar to your profile here.

I think I’m going to delete the Stormfront links. No need for me to be supporting that trash.

Stormfront is actually a pretty good group. I’ve been to some local meetings and there are some very nice members. They don’t go to these meetings (That are in public restaurants) and start yelling about Hitler and other racist things. They actually have meaningful and productive discussions.

Nobody should be shocked that mel is an anti-semite, his work pretty much screams it.

WOOHOO!!  I’m back.  Thanks much, Les.  Anyway…

Stormfront is actually a pretty good group. I’ve been to some local meetings and there are some very nice members. They don’t go to these meetings (That are in public restaurants) and start yelling about Hitler and other racist things. They actually have meaningful and productive discussions.

Really. Do you have any examples of the “meaningful and productive discussions” they have? From the looks of their website, all I could imagine was a bunch of grunting and grabbing at crotches accompanied by “rabblerabblerabble” in the background.  I could be wrong.  Maybe.

It also hurt his chances at a run for CA Governor.

Really. Do you have any examples of the “meaningful and productive discussionsâ€? they have? From the looks of their website, all I could imagine was a bunch of grunting and grabbing at crotches accompanied by “rabblerabblerabbleâ€? in the background.  I could be wrong.  Maybe.

I don’t have transcripts or anything like that, but there is alot of talk about religion, events we would like to see (As friends, not to “protest” or anyhting like that), local news, politics, and other stuff that might be of interest. There a few stereotypical “Skinheads” at each meeting but they usually keep themselves under control. Most are just your average looking joe/jane like you would see at the office. Yes, some people even bring their wife/husband and kids to the meetings. There are plenty of women there as well. Lycea is one of the main organisers in my area.

As much as they will deny it for PC-ness reasons, they are a “white-supremacist” group. They just keep things more low-key than other extremists like the KKK.

Sorry, her name is Lycia, not Lycea.

Moloch: As much as they will deny it for PC-ness reasons, they are a “white-supremacist� group. They just keep things more low-key than other extremists like the KKK.

Interesting you use the expression of “white-supremacist” so easily.
‘Stormfront (Google Stormfront and click on stormfront.org) calls itself a “Racialist discussion board for pro-White activists and anyone else interested in White survival”. Most of the members of Stormfront say that they are opposed to any form of “race-mixing” between the human races and support various forms of racism. The articles posted there often denounce non-white immigration and strongly advocate such views as white nationalism, white supremacy, white separatism, anti-Semitism, anti-Arabism, and homophobia and such feelings as white pride ... Wiki’
‘Stormfront is a Web site created by Don Black, out of West Palm Beach, Florida. One of the first hate sites on the Internet, it is still widely accessed and has links to hate groups all over the world ... Stormfront‘
When words like hate are bandied about like badges of honour I’d like to think their definition of hate is lesser than mine.
Their insecurity of the future of the white race is laughably built on the incorrect assumption that there’s rampant inter-racial breeding happening. I wonder if are any of them to know with absolute certainty there’s no racial mixture in their own heritage.
I think one of the reasons they do it is coz it’s still acting like little boys and this gives them a feeling of legitimacy in their ‘radicalism’ and their superiority, a sense of honour even ... but it’s really just small, narrow, immature and silly.
When I was a drunk in the 70s someone told me that if I mixed with dogs I’d get fleas.
It made me grow up a bit. 

I’ll take the bait:

Moloch, why have you been to their local meetings?

I wonder if are any of them to know with absolute certainty there’s no racial mixture in their own heritage.

I have traced my family back into the late 1600’s. My mom’s side is British and my dad’s side is Irish.

Moloch, why have you been to their local meetings?

Well, because I’m a member. I’m no organiser or anything with rank, I just like to keep up with people that have similar interests to my own.

Moloch: My mom’s side is British and my dad’s side is Irish.

As soon as I saw 1600 and Irish I thought of the Amada and the Black Irish from the ship-wrecked Spanish sailors - many of them Jews and Negroes.
Ever thought of having your DNA tested to see if you’re really ... WHITE?
Nah. Don’t do that.
The answer may disturb your supremist beliefs.

Anyone who makes a hobby of hating another ethnic group and/or praising his own clearly has nothing else going for him.

GM: Anyone who makes a hobby of hating another ethnic group and/or praising his own clearly has nothing else going for him.

I really wanted to call him a lobotomised fuckwit who needed some left brain feeding through his ultra-narrow corpus callosum but … I decided to try some tact – I’m not really sure what ‘tact’ is.
I know mum didn’t have much. She used to embarrass me - -
She was one of those creatures who was not beautiful but had … charisma – charm. Mmm. Charm.  I may be wrong, but I think Mr Wilde said: Charm; If a woman has it, she needs nothing else; if she doesn’t, nothing will help her.
But I don’t think it was now.
Where was I? Too much THC and alcohol. Better finish before I lose the plot.
That’s right - Moloch ... I don’t want to settle for calling you a fuckwit. It’s so ad hominem (or what ever the fuck it is). I feel, as an older human, I am morally compelled to give some ... I hate the word ... ‘advice’.
Shit it’s hard to think of an all encompassing sentence ...
How about … it’s easier to hold all humanity in your arms, than waste time being selective. KISS.
Did that turn out okay?
I like to think the THC lifts me to other tangentially spiked dimensions.
The alcohol fucks me up and ... slows my finger coordination down, drastically. 

I’m not going to dump all over Moloch without knowing more about what his beliefs in that regard happen to be. Unlikely as it may be it’s still possible he could be a member of Stormfront for reasons other than he’s a white supremacist so without hearing specifically from him what his views are it’d be premature for me to say much about it.

I will say that the revelation surprises me a bit. Most white supremacists don’t particularly care for my company. Not so much because I have a tendency to berate them about their views so much because I tend to be a pretty accepting person. I’m less worried about what race/gender/ethnicity/ sexual orientation a person happens to be than I am about what they do and that tends to piss them off because they see me as a race traitor.

You’re free to think the white race is superior to all others so long as you’re not actively harming anyone else in the process. In other words, you can think like an asshole if you really want to, but the moment you try to put it into action there’s going to be trouble.

Geekmom: Anyone who makes a hobby of hating another ethnic group and/or praising his own clearly has nothing else going for him.

Amen.

I will say that the revelation surprises me a bit. Most white supremacists don’t particularly care for my company. Not so much because I have a tendency to berate them about their views so much because I tend to be a pretty accepting person. I’m less worried about what race/gender/ethnicity/ sexual orientation a person happens to be than I am about what they do and that tends to piss them off because they see me as a race traitor.

Like I said, I join their meeteings because most of them have alot of the same beliefs I do.

The same holds true here. Sure Les, if I were to meet you in person we would most likely not get along, but you still have some of the same beliefs I do. Mostly on the religion issues and the little odd tidbits of info I’d otherwise never know about. A good example is the “Wilhelm scream.â€? I’ve probably heard that scream a few dozen times and never given it a second thought, now I know the history behind it.

You’re free to think the white race is superior to all others so long as you’re not actively harming anyone else in the process.

Well, I’ve gotten at least 6 illegal mexicans fired from the company I work for. I’d rather see a white 16 year old highschool kid that sucks at the job than a mexican that can do decent work on the houses.

Yes, I would call myself a white supremacist. It makes me sick to my stomach when I see a mixed race couple with a kid. It was infuriating to see all the mexicans driving their beaned out cars with the mexican flag everywhere on cinco de mayo. Most of the retards don’t even know that cinco de mayo is not even related to mexico! They just like day because they can have the day off, wave the mexican flag everywhere, and clog the roads.

Coondoleeza rice, well, she makes things bad enough on her own.

While I like Hitler for what he tried to do, he was still a christian. The KKK are a bunch of redneck pussies. I never had much of a chance to get with the Tulsa Skins before I moved. National Alliance is too corrupt to make any progress. National Vanguard is no better, they are just a bunch of flyer passing no-nuts that won’t go anywhere. Stormfront is the closest thing to what I’m looking for without being on the “crazy” side.

You want to see irony, google Moloch. 

You know, there are a lot of crimes I support the death penalty for.  I believe that some things are so heinous and so irredeemably anti-social that in order to save society, people who promote them should be cleansed from our midst.

Racism is one of them.

Moloch: While I like Hitler for what he tried to do…

Alright, it’s official: Moloch is a fucking nutcase.

Geekmom, I don’t support the death penalty, but I agree with you that racism is so morally abhorrent that the desire to see racist assholes exiled from all society makes perfect sense.

Right on Hitlerina!

Les,

I’m not going to dump all over Moloch without knowing more about what his beliefs in that regard happen to be.

Now you know.

Sexy Sadie, you and Les can be more tolerant than I am; that’s okay.  The Southern Poverty Law Center doesn’t go nearly far enough in my eyes, but I send them money every month anyway. 

Problem with these supremacists is that it ISN’T just enough for them to sit in their little circle jerks and get all excited over their current melanin deficiency.  No, sooner or later they get the idea that they ought to ACT on it, and that’s why they need to be stopped. 

Being proud of your race is every bit as pathetic and silly as being proud of your gall bladder.  And it’s only a small step from being proud of your weenie.