Tesla also invented agriculture and the Egg McMuffin, except Tesla’s breakfast food cured cancer and hair loss. Without the ethereum isotopes though, MacDonald’s just can’t get the right seasoning for medical breakthroughs.

Something like that, Les?

Yeah, something like that.

Ya know, Tesla once cured me of gout using nothing but a paper clip and some molasses.

Thank you for that comment it was very… insightful. I have read some of your other responses and I know that you are an intelligent human being, just a bit stubborn, and that’s ok nothing wrong in that. So I collected some information that might help you understand the way they work and why there might not be a “scientific explaination”. But either way KEEP on questioning EVERYTHING!!! It is this kind of thinking that will allow you to uncover the truth about the place we live in. And the true nemesis that we will be facing in the years coming up.

The scalar energy is created when two common electromagnetic waves come together from two opposite converging vectors. When the energy vectors meet, the equal frequencies cancel each other leaving a standing or stationary energy. The space the scalar occupies is not a vacuum but alive with checked and balanced energies. The literature (I’m guessing from that book a few people were talking about can’t recall but I think you know) describes that it can be created by electromagnetic generators or naturally when similar frequency waves in the environment meet from two different vectors. Therefore, small random scalar energies are always present in the environment.

The term scalar was used by Nikola Tesla at the end of the last century as a part of powerful non-Hertzian energy (without frequencies) which he referred to as standing energy or cosmic waves. Einstein gave reference to the scalar energies in the 1920’s. Yet even today modern physics textbooks and scholarly publications rarely mention scalar energies. This is understandable. The electromagnetism that we know so much about has frequencies, wave action and motion that we can measure. Scalar energy is described to have zero frequencies, to be static, a stationary energy that therefore cannot be evaluated by our current frequency instruments. We do know how to create this energy but only its effects tell us that it exists in space and has power.
-Exerpt from somewhere, I forgot… But take it at face value and do your own reasearch on scalar energy and come to your own conclusions!

My background isn’t in this field and I can’t follow all the arguments but generally I’m going to be skeptical.  A lot of the information about scalar energy and asymmetrical Maxwellian equations seems to stem from a Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden, who is in the process of trying to patient a perpetual motion machine.  He and other sources claim that scalar energy creates a unified theory that explains gravity (scalar energy apparently can be converted into gravitational energy) and that free EM radiation is contained infinitely in the void (as a kind of innate property of space/time so obvious yet not discovered).  Note this is just a brief read through of internet sites and not cross examined with scientific journals and papers, as time for that is limited at this time of year.  Also note I found little relevant calculations on the matter.

A few things really seem to make me skeptical of all this.  One is the idea that the theories of thermodynamics don’t apply and that they are just old hangover theories.  This might make sense if the context was worded correctly however the instant they start bringing up massive government conspiracy and secret Soviet death rays, I kinda roll my eyes.  I see much of this aspect of the theory as misquoting Maxwell.  If thermodynamics didn’t exist, then why do we have dark energy as a requirement of the universe?  Even if there was a conspiracy, oxygen was discovered twice and I’m quite sure that such knowledge would be found again.  Science is full of hotshots wanting to be the next Nobel laureate, someone will find it.  Saying there is massive suppression of true scientific thought and that the Government is deluding the world puts you right in line behind neo-creationists.  What really got me right perturbed with this theory is the spin offs into bioenergy.  This IS my subject area.  The claim that all pathologies are caused by dissonance energies in organic beings flies in the face of every pathological interaction I’ve encountered and every associated signaling chain.  These sound like pseudo-science claims, the ultimate truth suppressed by those evil scientists who don’t know anything.

In short, I guess the reason why it isn’t publicized is cause there is nothing there to publicize.  This field seems to me to be too fishy to be legitimate.

What Psychromorbidus said.

Darius, you make the fatal mistake of thinking I’ve not bothered to look into the nonsense you’re peddling. You’re not the first person to show up here trying to convince me there’s something of substance in the claims made by the Tesla watch people. Thomas E. Bearden is a freakin’ nutcase and just about anything he’s attached to can probably be safely assumed to be total nonsense. This includes the Scalar Energy “theory.”

O.K. Les “No, I don’t own a Teslar watch and yes I do know quite a bit about the electromagnetic patterns of our planet. Enough to know this watch is bullshit. Care to elaborate?”

Do you or any of your family members currently, or in the past, ever been employed by a drug company?

Are you or anyone that you are related to employed as a Pharmaceutical Representative?

Where did you attend college, and what degree programs have you completed?

Did you learn how to speak so elegantly at your school, or is that what they teach you at your Drug Company?

What have you discovered about Tesla research, and where have you obtained this information?

In your extensive knowledge of B.S. where dose logic and reason rank? And, what scientific research has proven the claims made by TESLAR to be inaccurate?

Where did you obtain this infinite knowledge about the Teslar products abilities? 
It seems to be your position that you say so, so it must be true!
Are you some kind of special prophet or something? 
If you say gas prices are falling will it be cheaper to fill up my tank tomarrow?  Can you say that for all of us, oh mighty Less.

Scalar energy cannot be measured - it’s invisible.
God cannot be measured - he’s invisible.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster IS REAL!!! 

Oi Homework.  When we are interested in the rantings of 14 year olds we will ask ask for them. You obviously have no scientific grounding, or you wouldn’t make statements like

what scientific research has proven the claims made by TESLAR to be inaccurate?

because you would now the burden of proof is on the watch company. 

So all you have to do is provide that.

I think it’s funny that the email address he left is: . Still, fair enough questions so let’s take them one by one.

O.K. Les “No, I don’t own a Teslar watch and yes I do know quite a bit about the electromagnetic patterns of our planet. Enough to know this watch is bullshit. Care to elaborate?”

Sure thing.

Do you or any of your family members currently, or in the past, ever been employed by a drug company?

Nope. Neither I nor any of my immediate family members have ever worked for any of the Big Pharma companies you guys always seem to get so worked up about.

Are you or anyone that you are related to employed as a Pharmaceutical Representative?

Nope. Have you seen my picture? Do you really think anyone would want me to represent their company that isn’t “Uncle Bob’s Clothing and Bait Emporium?”

Where did you attend college, and what degree programs have you completed?

I have just under two years worth of college under my belt from Oakland Community College. My major was CompSci. I have yet to complete any major degrees. Most of my education in Physics is self-taught because of an intense curiosity and a large collection of books.

Did you learn how to speak so elegantly at your school, or is that what they teach you at your Drug Company?

Neither. We Jenkins’ are natural born smooth talkers.

What have you discovered about Tesla research, and where have you obtained this information?

Mostly from books about Nikola Tesla. There’s a wide range of books documenting the man, his research, and his accomplishments and failures. It’s not that hard to learn about the man.

In your extensive knowledge of B.S. where dose logic and reason rank?

Logic and reason rank pretty high up. Two of the better tools for bullshit detection.

And, what scientific research has proven the claims made by TESLAR to be inaccurate?

Burden of proof is on the one making the claims. Teslar has to provide the proof their shit actually does what they claim it does. They don’t bother.

Where did you obtain this infinite knowledge about the Teslar products abilities? 

I don’t claim infinite knowledge of anything, let alone Teslar products. Based on the available evidence provided by the company and my own understanding of basic physics, the watch most likely doesn’t do anything other than tell time and empty your wallet.

It seems to be your position that you say so, so it must be true!

Not at all. I encourage everyone to take the time to study up on the science that applies and the claims being made and draw their own conclusion. It is my considered opinion that the claims of the Teslar company are complete and utter bullshit.

Are you some kind of special prophet or something? 

Nope, but you don’t have to be a prophet to know that a square wheel isn’t going to roll worth a shit. Just like you don’t have to be overly well educated to see the claims of the Teslar watch are bullshit.

If you say gas prices are falling will it be cheaper to fill up my tank tomarrow?  Can you say that for all of us, oh mighty Less.

I wouldn’t claim gas prices were gonna fall tomorrow unless I had a good reason to. I don’t make proclamations and expect reality to follow suit, I simply make statements about reality that I feel are likely to be true.

Les, I understand skepticism because I am a born skeptic. I am a lawyer in Dallas Texas with a very busy and successful practice. But over the 14 years I’ve been in business I’ve had to tailor my practice to minimize exposure to EMF because I’m sensitive to a variety of sources commonly used in business - most importantly mobile phones and desktop computers. Right there, you and I probably diverge. When I say that I’m sensitive, I’m referring to troubling physical symptoms such as headaches, fatigue and even chronic coughing which worsen with cumulative exposure to EMF sources. EMF can really slow me down. And my income directly depends upon continued and repeated use of these tools. As my symptoms worsened, I became increasingly desperate for a way to combat EMF sensitivity. And though you and I probably differ in that regard, there are many others who will read this post who will understand EXACTLY what I mean. It really can become a serious struggle. There are certainly many things others believe that I don’t (probably including most of the other items in the list to the left). But personal experience can teach things that you would never believe otherwise. It’s clear that without scientific proof, you won’t be convinced that the watch performs as claimed. But convincing YOU is not necessary. Like my wife who wears one of my Philip Stein watches, you probably wouldn’t notice a difference. She doesn’t have any EMF sensitivity. I don’t have scientific data to offer and don’t really care if it exists. Like many many others though, what I DO have is personal experience. The watch has been absolutely incredible for me. I felt a difference after only 45 minutes. And if I take it off on a busy work day, which I have only done twice in three years, I go right back to feeling fatigued with the old headaches and hollowed-out-eyes feelings. When I wear it, I can burn the candle at both ends to a pretty extreme degree and still pop right up the next day to go again, even on very little sleep. It’s amazing. I NEVER leave it behind. The best advice anyone gave on this forum is worth reiterating. If you think there’s some chance the watch could help you, go pick one up and try it. If it doesn’t deliver, take it back and get your money back. It’s that simple. My mother has one and can offer a testimonial of similar strength(though my dad isn’t convinced they do anything, he’s glad that we can both continue working.) I have a stainless steel Rolex that I used to wear every day. I also used to visit jewelry stores to look at watches ranging in price from $8,000 to $35,000 (they certainly go higher) trying to decide which one I wanted to buy when our son left home. But now, I have no use for anything but a Philip Stein. It has made that big a difference in my life. Refute this all you like. But any sane person with serious EMF problems who comes along and reads this will be justifiably desperate enough to try the watch even at $600.  They’ll do a one person experiment and decide whether their $600 was well spent. Just like I did, just like my mom did. And that’s a great thing. P.S., I don’t work for the company or have any kind of connection to them. I’m just another drastically improved customer.

Remember, there were many ideas in the past that were ridiculed before they could be proven. Ideas like the earth being round, not flat. Or revolving around the sun rather than being the center of the universe. How many people called Copernicus and Columbus morons? As for EMF and ways to combat its dubious effects, only time will tell.

I understand skepticism because I am a born skeptic.

I don’t have scientific data to offer and don’t really care if it exists.

Born skeptic, but grown out of it?

I am a lawyer in Dallas Texas with a very busy and successful practice.

I’m referring to troubling physical symptoms such as headaches, fatigue and even chronic coughing which worsen with cumulative exposure to EMF sources.

Ever considered reducing your exposure to stress instead?

Like my wife who wears one of my Philip Stein watches, you probably wouldn’t notice a difference. She doesn’t have any EMF sensitivity.

If she’s not as stressed, small wonder the placebo watch doesn’t do anything for her.

It doesn’t matter how many people convince themselves these watches do more than lighten their wallets. Unless you’re in the business of selling that kind of snake oil, of course.

guys just to make it quite simple scientifically speaking there is no way known to humans to create a frequency that neutralizes the electromagnetic fields the only way they can neutralizes the electromagnetic fields is to convert it into electrical current and connect it to the ground so the electrical energy get neutralized
Not to mention that the actual harmful effect of the tiny dosage of electromagnetic fields emanating from these devices is still uncertain and yet people has already linked it to stress, headaches ....etc
people’s fear of every thing new is incredibly idiotic their microwaves emits times way more electromagnetic fields than any of these devices , they made an association between genetically engineered fruits and vegetables although according to the data mining in most hospitals and research centers there is no relation between the two how so ever
all what you are doing guys is discarding the old religious believes to replace it with new less extreme religious believes yet still based on faith you want people to believe in unseen energy, karma and all kinds do BS to make profit out of your useless products and that’s where I don’t see any difference between you and the church in the dark ages, my honest opinion take this watch and shove it up in Ilonka Harezi’s ***

While EMF sensitivity is a confirmable illness, some of the cures seem unfounded.  I’ve seen this watch and rocks called Boji stones reported to eliminate harmful electromagnetic frequencies.  The only possible way I can see the watch working is triggering destructive interferences such that the wavelengths no longer are within your sensitive frequency.  However since frequencies are not standard, there are limitations.  Broad range EMR dampeners make more sense to me.  Added to that, the watch makes claims beyond EMF sensitivity with the standard pitch of “improved wellness of being”.  In short, glad the watch works for you, an actual effect is very lucky if the effect actually exists.  It had to have interfered with the right wavelengths to alleviate your symptoms, if it is indeed due to the watch.

Also, don’t refer to testimonials please, perception is a dangerous window.

What elwed and m. wael alkel said.
Psych said:

The only possible way I can see the watch working is triggering destructive interferences such that the wavelengths no longer are within your sensitive frequency.

As I pointed out somewhere upthread, destructive interference can only work if the watch is a) synchronized and in phase with the EMF it’s supposed to cancel, and b) held in such a way that the waves cancel exactly at that point (somewhere in the brain) where they are purportedly doing their mischief.  What is a “broad range” EMF dampener? As far as I recall from physics, waves are waves, and you can’t “calm them down” with some sort of all-purpose “dampener”.  All you can do is eliminate them in specific places with well-aimed and synchronized counterwaves.

I somehow doubt that the Teslar watch has the sensing capabilities, the computer, and the power, to do all that.  But hey, I’m just a born skeptic.

I should have been more clear.  By dampener, I’m referring to a material that is capable of absorbing electromagnetic radiation within set ranges.  Photo electric effect exploitation and all that jazz.  Course they have very specific characterizations and quite frankly, I’m not sure if there are civilian versions.  I’m quite aware waves are waves but they don’t always have to be.  They can instead excite particles.

Also I do agree with you on the capabilities of the Teslar watch.  It is beyond the scope of the power of the watch.  I’m just not willing to say something doesn’t work without giving a way it could possibly work.  Then we apply Occam’s razor, some research and what ever else is handy to reach a conclusion (they have a habit of turning up negative with these things).  This is just the first time I’ve let a possibility hang on a post.  Just doing my part to mitigate pseudo-skepticality.

While EMF sensitivity is a confirmable illness, some of the cures seem unfounded.

A quick glance at Wikipedia:

Electrical sensitivity (ES) - sometimes also called electrosensitivity or electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) - is a condition in which a person experiences physical and/or psychological symptoms that they report to be aggravated by electromagnetic fields or other electromagnetic waves at exposure levels tolerated by the general public. It is a matter of controversy whether electromagnetic field exposure causes sufferers’ symptoms, and the balance of evidence from provocation studies so far indicates that the link is false. In a recent review of the literature regarding whether sufferers are genuinely affected by electromagnetic fields, seven studies were found which did report an association, while 24 could not find any association with electromagnetic fields. However, of the seven ‘positive’ studies, two could not be replicated even by the original authors, three had serious methodological shortcomings, and the final two presented contradictory results.[1] There are currently over thirty support groups across the world for people reporting electrical sensitivity, [2] and many of these are convinced that there is a link between reports of electrical sensitivity and electromagnetic fields. However, the World Health Organization[3] state that there is no known scientific basis for the belief that electrical sensitivity is caused by exposure to electromagnetic fields.

Since there doesn’t appear to be a disease, the cures are more than unfounded

A watch. usually about the size of a 50 cent piece, can protect your whole body from EM radiation.

Of course it can, just like a paper umbrella from a cocktail can protect your whole body from a rainstorm.

I don’t doubt the validity of the Teslar as a placebo (’I believe it works, therefore it does’), but in reality it can’t stop EM radiation, remove it from the human body, or somehow issue a blocking frequency that only stops the EM radiation from going into you.

I was interested in learning about this watch today and did learn something. It was not so much about the watch, but rather, about YOU, Les. I think that you need some anger management classes.

If the watch is a scam, so be it. Fine. Got the point.

At first, I read your viewpoint with interest. In the hopes of getting more info, I continued to read. Now that I have wasted so much time reading this banter, I find the need to move on to a more credible website.

Me? Anger management? You obviously have never met me. How can I be angry when I’ve got all these stupid people to laugh at? My life is one of amusement and merriment. No real time to get angry.

Even so, I highly encourage you to do more research on this craptastic product. I don’t claim to be the final authority on it or on the physics that would be involved in such an undertaking. This is just my opinion based on my knowledge and understanding and you should definitely take the time to look into it yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

You’ll note that an awful lot of what’s said over here at SEB takes place over the course of years and months. That first post happened 5 years ago. If that’s anger management worthy… well, let’s just say it’s a simmering, warm kettle sort of anger.

I find the need to move on to a more credible website.

Now that’s just funny.  You came to a website titled “Stupid Evil Bastard” and subtitled “What the fuck is wrong with you people?”.  What, exactly, is your definition of “credibility”?

No, on second thought don’t tell me.  I can always go to “Crooks and Liars” if I want my opinion of the human race lowered any further.

Don’t let the door hitcha where the Flying Spaghetti Monster splitcha, Rosie.

“Don’t let the door hitcha where the Flying Spaghetti Monster splitcha, Rosie.” thats one hell of a quote lol , did you just come up with it cubic , if yes can i use it as my signature

It’s just occurred to me.

For a wave to be cancelled there has to be an identical wave. 

If wavelength is λ, the counter wave must be at xλ+λ/2, where x is an integer.

The dampening effect will only happen if the emitter of the counter wave is precisely on this point.

As you move toward the point that is xλ the effect of the wave will become more pronounced, until you stand on a point that is exactly xλ.  At this point the wave will have an amplitude of 2Y (where Y is the amplitude of the original wave).

It would appear to me that this watch can double the effects of electro magnetic radiation.

if yes can i use it as my signature

Yes, and I consider myself flattered.

Remember, there were many ideas in the past that were ridiculed before they could be proven. Ideas like the earth being round, not flat. Or revolving around the sun rather than being the center of the universe. How many people called Copernicus and Columbus morons? As for EMF and ways to combat its dubious effects, only time will tell.

Yep, and there were plenty of crackpot theories and their adherents as well. But those typically aren’t worth the pulp and ink of textbooks--they don’t pack the same narrative punch as, say, Galileo running afoul with with the Venetian Inquisition.  If you don’t have the time and/or attention-span for a formal history, I would recommend “A Short History of Nearly Everything.” for a taster.

But you’re half-correct in that time will tell.  The other half is hard data that can be reproduced by anyone with equivalent equipment and environmental conditions.  Data wins.  Period.  Ante up.