C’mon, people, a Teslar watch? Lets just say that this product will end up the way of Sea Monkeys, Moon Shoes, (you know, the ones that claimed you could jump sky high with?), pet rocks, ultrasonic pest eliminators, Super Stuff, Clancey the roller skating monkey, Magic Rocks, Gaylord the dog, Super Bubbles, Croquet sets, Super Balls, Creepy Crawlers, Incredible Edibles, GI Joe, (oh, that macho male doll for little boys, jeez, what was the message behind that one?), Ken dolls, (I could never figure that one out), Spud Guns, Ant Farms,whew! And the list goes on and on and on and on . . . get real

First the concept that it’s the electromagnetic fields of cell phones cause the problem is just B.S., most will blame the microwaves that they produce. That leads us to this, the only way you could cancel out those microwaves is to produce the same waves from the watch. Now that would lead to a plethora of problems, like the cell phone would no longer work, you trade brain tumors for bone tumors…

if you think that they do cause cancer read this.
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2000/600_phone.html

Les,
  My wife and I took our first cruise back in April of this year and was shopping in Cozumel Mexico. We saw the Telsar watches in Diamonds Internationl and my wife loved the look of them. The claims on the watch to reduce stress, relieve certain pains, etc. really didn’t matter to us. The watches have dual time zones and they are just cool looking. I bought my wife one without diamonds and one with. Yes, they are pricey and I’m sure I paid way too much for them but my wife is very happy and loves wearing them. She has told me on several occasions that she feels better when she wears the watch..health wise. She suffers with migraines often and I swear she seems to have less of them when she wears the watch. I have no scientific proof that the Telsar watch does reduce pain or stress or any other ailments. I can only tell you what she said. Even if the company had no claims of healing properties of the watch, I would still reccommend your readers buying one for their significant other. The watch is just a cool looking, dependable timepiece that any man or woman would love to own.
  Royce

My wife bought me a pocket watch for our wedding.  Would rather have that than any wristwatch

There are thousands of people, especially users in Australia and New Zealand, that use orgone on their crops and they routinely outdo all competition.

Orgone has been around for a long time, since the 1920s, I think.

There is extensive documented evidence, blueprints, scientific studies, organizations, journal articles, books, and community about orgone.

William Reich started it, I think.

This is not snake oil at all.

It is fairly simple if you understand very basic things about magnets, electricity, and molecules.

It is mostly based on magnets, which will do all kinds of crazy crap when you put electricity in them…very dangerous things too.

Orgone is not quackery.

Do your homework before you have an emotional breakdown over foreign concepts.

There are thousands of people, especially users in Australia and New Zealand, that use orgone on their crops and they routinely outdo all competition.

Protip: There are lots of people in highly moist, vegetative areas that grow fantastic crops. They tend to outdo their competition.

It is fairly simple if you understand very basic things about magnets, electricity, and molecules.

Y’know, it’s funny, cos I’ve got friends in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmology, respectively, so they understand magnets, electricity and atoms on a deep level (not molecules - minimalism, y’see?). They contend without question that this device is garbage. If it worked, they’d have turned it into a power source by now.

I didn’t even know what orgone energy was until I wikipediad it.

How exactly do you measure/quantify “life energy” in order to have a valid scientific study, Devin? How would one apply it to crops? How would you even store it, for that matter?

That said, I wonder why federal agents bothered to burn his books? They could’ve just discredited him

Sorry for double dip

Pat: If it worked, they’d have turned it into a power source by now.

You just reminded me of the Shinra electric power company processing Mako energy

Devin - seriously, if you do believe there is something to this, and want us to agree, give us an explanation of how this stuff is supposed to work and physically interact with the environment, where you propose it came from, etc. I’m not asking for proof at this point, but you have to understand that something needs to make sense to us in order to consider it a possibility and try to fit it in with our current models.

If it is very basic things about magnets, electricity, and molecules, then no doubt you can explain?
(I’m giving you a chance, I’m taking you seriously, I’m listening, so make your case and if it sounds at least possible I will think on it)

Orgone energy? Oh that’s too rich! Thanks for the giggle, Devin.

Hey, anyone out there that WORKS AT TESLAR, SEND ME A TESLAR WATCH FOR FREE.  I will wear it and endorse it, and I’ll tell you if it makes me feel good.  I am a writer and professional dominatrix, I will not bullshit anyone on the benefits of this watch.  But I am not going to PAY that much for ANY timepiece, THAT’S THE BULLSHIT of it all- the PRICE!!!!!!
  ENCHANTRESS TUESDAY WELLS- 
ENCHANTRESS TUESDAY WELLS can be found on MYSPACE

Because if you can’t trust the scientific opinion of a professional dominatrix then, really, who can you trust? Surely not those silly scientists.

Assertion isn’t proof, evidence is. Let’s see, we have those asserting that it’s crap. Do you really think NASA would install Schumann Resonance devices on manned spacecraft if that were the case? We’re talking about a student of Tesla himself here? Hello? Ever heard of discernment? “.. The first Schumann Resonance product was developed in 1974 by Dr. Ludwig in Germany. It is a small box which emits this resonance in the form of magnetic strobe. He worked with NASA to install a Schumann device on manned spacecraft. Dr. Ludwig worked at the Institute of Frequency Technology, is a doctorate of Physics, and currently develops medical therapy devices.

Another researcher, Dr. Andrija Puharich developed the Teslar watch in 1986. Dr. Puharich and his friends were known as the “Round Table Foundation of Electrobiology”. Some of the luminaries were John Hammond, Nikola Tesla’s only student, and Warren McCulloch (Cybernetics).“ And your great achievements, you detractors, are precisely what?

Mandy this is another one of those “the science is too much for you ley men” arguments, which is, itself, horribly flawed.

It doesn’t take a Ph.D. to see it. It doesn’t matter who made what - it can be flawed. It is not up to us to disprove it, it is up to the designers to front the merits of their devices to peer review. This has NOT been done. Good money gets made off of woo like this, just like shoepads that claim to have monopole magnets, needles left in various parts of the body having mystical healing power, and flashlights that attract aliens.

I will criticise whoever I damn well please. Good day.

Mandy Rin pops up to write…

Assertion isn’t proof, evidence is.

Who then goes on to ironically make the following assertion…

Do you really think NASA would install Schumann Resonance devices on manned spacecraft if that were the case?

Please provide the evidence that NASA installs “Schumann Resonance devices” on manned spacecraft. I did a search for it and found lots of woo-woo sellers claiming this to be true, but nothing official that indicated it was in fact true.

There’s been a lot of highly educated folks who have believed some pretty whacked out stuff that wasn’t true. Simply the fact that you have a doctorate doesn’t make you immune to being caught up in woo. Nor does it automatically mean anything you claim is correct.

Mandy: We’re talking about a student of Tesla himself here? Hello?

Fuck off, asshole

And your great achievements, you detractors, are precisely what?

And yours are precisely what?
You hide behind others making no attempt to think about it yourself, that’s intelectual cowardice

For the record I am an organic chemist, and I know from experience that stupid people with good rote memory slip the academic net and make it into research, and that even the highly qualified can have conflicting ideas or even financially exploit their position by releasing a craptastic™ product

If we didn’t criticise scientists they’d be free to lie their asses off for profit once they reach a certain stage, and as patness said, you don’t need a Ph.d. to see that something doesn’t make sense, you just need to not be a fool.

Back when a year ago I was totally clueless about upscale watch. When I wanted to buy my first high-end watch, I consult with my friend who had been a watch collector for a few years. Since then I regular chat with him about different brands and one day I asked his comment about this Philip Stein watch. At first time when he told me the watch has some sort of electric magnetic field that keeps you in good health, I can’t stop but laugh my guts out. This sh*t sound exactly the same as those $20 magnetic sticker on ebay that claim to improve your cell phone antenna power. However, my friend was a total believer despite his watch collecting experience.

I guess stupidity never discriminate, it has no boundary between igorant and informed people.

“We are accustomed to having men jeer at what they do not understand.” - Goethe

Good morning chaps, is it conceivable that the Chief Engineer at Sun Microsystems just might possibly know something you don’t?

http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/Sun

http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/QBResearch2002

http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/DangersOfConveniences

“They laughed at the Wright brothers” -anon.
“They laughed at the Marx brothers” -anon.

Good morning Mandy, is it conceivable that even otherwise intelligent people are capable of harboring mistaken beliefs?  For instance, I have it on good authority (two friends of mine who know him) that the current Pope is pretty smart.  Yet he believes that snakes talk.  Isaac Newton was pretty smart too, by all accounts- yet he believed in alchemy.  So the argument from smartness, or Chief Engineerness, or Doctorology, is not sufficient to establish the truth of some claim.

As far as your links go, the dangers of EMF’s are still debated: my skeptical astrophysicist friend John got headaches working next to a magnetron, and obviously too much microwave radiation is not good for poodles and other living things.  Whether the radiation from cell phones causes damage is still unknown.  In any case, the main point of the current thread here is that the Philip Stein watch is a scam.  As I and others have pointed out, there’s no way a wristwatch can significantly reduce radiation reaching someone’s head.

The same goes for this “aulterra neutralizer”, a thingie with magic powder you stick on the back of your cell phone.  Never heard of it, and I had to wade through dozens of sites trying to sell it to find anything substantial.  On the way I found this helpful description: the aulterra neutralizer powder is a “Homeopathically activated combination of natural paramagnetic and diamagnetic elements, ...“  I smelled woo.

The second of your links is a test, I would hazard to guess not totally independent, which claims that the aulterra powder repairs EMF-damaged DNA.  A bold claim.  And how does this work?  “The results demonstrated that the powder radiates an energy field which resonates with DNA producing an oscillatory winding and unwinding behavior in its secondary structure.“  Lots of big sciency words, but just more woo.  If this powder really repaired damaged DNA, I’m sure there would be a Nobel prize in it for someone.  How come there are no articles in Nature about it?  I suppose it’s the scientific mafia, which is also suppressing the good news about homeopathy and alchemy.

I finally found a test of the aulterra neutralizer which seemed to be independent, and they found that it actually increases microwave-induced heating of water (presumably by unintelligent reflection, as opposed to the intelligent and benificent radiation attributed to it by the woomongers).  Now, I wouldn’t go so far as to say that this powder can offer no protection whatsoever from EMF’s: if it contains substantial amounts of metal, a nice thick helmet of the stuff would probably cut out some radiation.  Of course, your cell phone would have to be outside the helmet, reducing intelligibility somewhat.

Moral?  Woo is everywhere, until demonstrated otherwise.  Until the evidence is in, I’ll protect myself from EMF’s the old fashioned way: not working next to magnetrons, and using my cell phone as little as possible.

“The data speaks for itself.“ - Prof. Joie P Jones, Professor or Radiological Sciences, University of California, Irvine

http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/UCIrvine
http://www.teslar.com/exp_sci_doc.html

I tend to agree.

Zilch nailed it. Everything I’ve read about “Aulterra” indicates it’s as big a scam as the Teslar watch. The BBC had an article about this product back in 2001:

American inventor Kim Dandurand, who launched the product in Glasgow, said research showed his product was effective in removing any harmful effects.

However, Dr Michael Clark, scientific spokesman for the National Radiological Protection Board (NRPB), was “sceptical” about the stickers’ properties.
...
However the NRPB, the independent government watchdog which assesses the affect of radiation on humans, said there was no evidence that DNA was affected by mobile phone conditions and it was “sceptical” about the effects of this device.

Dr Clark said: “We would endorse the view of the Stewart report on mobile phone use.

“There are various devices that seek to reduce exposure to radio frequency radiation from mobile phones.

“These include shields and other devices that attach to phones.

“We remain to be convinced of their effectiveness in reducing personal exposure in normal conditions of use of mobile phones.“

That’s just one of many such articles. Of course as soon as the word “Homeopathic” came up all manner of warning flags went off. So far you’ve not produced much data other than some official looking PDFs that make some claims with no data present. Where’s the beef?

Not that this is likely to be news to anyone here, but reading the “scientific” testimonials at the Teslar site is like stepping into a tar pit of undiluted woo: particularly precious is their defence of the claim that “energy enters the left side of the body and exits on the right” with the observation that there are all kinds of left-right asymmetries in nature.  This is typical of woo-science: use sciency words and draw parallels where no relation obtains.

Particulary ironic is their answer to one skeptic, which starts out:

We understand why you are questioning the veracity of our statements, as we are appalled by those who do not have a clue what they are talking about and misuse terminology to sell to the consumer something that sounds scientific, but has no evidence to substantiate their claims. I promise you that this is not the case with our team.

Laughing all the way to the bank.

Can you spell MORON?  That’s what you are.  Its a nice looking watch.  If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.  If it makes someone feel better to have it, why should you care.  (As if anyone would care what an idiot like you thinks anyway.)

You’d be surprised, Jon. You apparently care enough to take the time to leave a comment.

Go ahead and waste your money if you wish. The Teslar folks are laughing their ass off at you just as much as I am.

the scientific world doesn’t not dispute the fact that em frequencies (inc radio range) are dangerous to living cells they just argue about the degree of danger.  As everything in life seems to be killing us 1 way or another people can sit on either side of the fence never decide anything and ignore the fact that they are dangerous.

however saying that i am pretty sure that these products are scams.

Les, i would like to add that the term homoeopathy shouldn’t be cause for alarm, it has been shown to work in placebo controlled double blind studies (the medical gold standard for testing).
it has been belittled by the medical industry because it has the potential to drastically cut profits.  imagine only needing 0.02 % of a regular dose of medicine with little to no side effects.