Latest snake-oil scam: Philip Stein Teslar watch.

Posted by Les on Friday, August 29, 2003 at 08:16 AM. Read 55322 times. Tags: , ,
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In addition to magnetic bracelets and shoe inserts to aid in healing and electrocution belts for weight loss, consumers looking to waste money on products with dubious medical claims can now blow their earnings on a watch that claims to protect your body from “electronic pollution” in the form of magnetic fields.

Wired News: A Watch Powered by Snake Oil

The Philip Stein Teslar watch contains a chip that works with the battery and coil to create a frequency that neutralizes the electromagnetic fields emanating from devices like cell phones, computers and radios, according to the company.

Research links electromagnetic fields with several health problems like headache, fatigue and memory loss, the company said. Those who wear the quartz watch allegedly sleep better, experience less stress and have improved concentration and more energy, it claims.

“It shields the body from these electromagnetic fields, and then the body can be more effective in taking care of itself and its immune system with those unwanted fields thrown off,” explained Ilonka Harezi, head of research for Teslar Inside, which manufactures the watch. “With us sticking cell phones to our heads, we need that protection,” Harezi said.

But others say the company’s claims are a bunch of bunk.

“There is not a chance in the world that (these types of devices) will do anything but lighten your wallet,” said John Moulder, a professor of radiation oncology at the Medical College of Wisconsin, who said he’s seen a slew of products that claim to do the same thing, including radio-frequency-proof lingerie.

Despite there being absolutely no scientific evidence that magnetic fields have any discernible effect on the body, and that’s something that has been studied extensively, the watches are being sold at such upscale stores as Bloomingdale’s New York and Royal Jewelers in Massachusetts for prices starting at $600 and going up to $2000 for one covered in diamonds. Needless to say, the watches are a hit among various celebrities and athletes and the clueless in general.

That’s it. I’m tired of being the only one who’s not making tons of money off of peoples’ stupidity and gullibility. I’m going to develop my own highly over-priced craptastic product with dubious medical claims that you don’t really need and start selling it to clueless idiots so I can be rich too. Perhaps it’s time I follow through on developing a patented Anti-Alien Anal Probe Ass Shield for people suffering from occasional alien anal probe syndrome. There certainly seems be enough of those people around judging from all the news items I read about it.

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Les United States Posted on 12/28/2005 at 08:07 AM

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kkipper, it’s impossible to say for certain if it’s safe for you to use or not as the makers don’t exactly go into detail on how it works—for obvious reasons—but I would suspect it would be harmless to you beyond the damage it’ll do to your wallet.

You’d probably be better served getting a second opinion from a different doctor if the one you’re seeing now doesn’t appear to be able to treat your condition properly.

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zilch Austria Posted on 12/28/2005 at 08:30 AM

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This watch is an obvious scam, for the reasons that Ragman said.  To go into a bit more detail: the wavelength of (say) cell phone radiation is on the order of a foot, so a watch on your wrist that produced interference waves at cell-phone frequency could conceivably reduce radiation at your wrist, and maybe your hand, but if you hold it a foot, or two feet, away from your head, you will be exposing your brain to more radiation.  Might as well just buy a copper bracelet- it will work just as well, and it’s a lot cheaper.

There is no way a watch can shield you from EMF.  If you want to protect your head from EMF, you’re better off with a lead helmet.  A thick one.

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kkipper Great Britain (UK) Posted on 12/28/2005 at 08:41 AM

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Thanks Les and thanks zilch!  This EMF is interesting - when I got my mac I emailed Apple support to ask if the wireless Bluetooth keyboard and mouse were safe re Atrial Fibrillation. They hadnt had the question put to them before but said it would be OK.

I do wonder though if the time I spend on a computer is harmful -I believe it does emit harmful electrical energies. Mobile phone could have the same result. Maybe I should pack in my technology - - and go back to painting real pictures on canvas.

Disappointing though it would be wonderful to think that wearing a watch could change my life - it makes me think that its hard to trust in products - so may people want to just make money. Health claims are a ploy to make us look at the product maybe - - - - maybe - - - -

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 12/28/2005 at 10:03 AM

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Kipper, the major EMF offenders were Cathode-Ray Tube monitors.  The later models were shielded but early ones spat out lots of EMF, mostly toward the rear (so the major danger, if any, was the monitor on the desk behind yours).  LCD monitors are much better.  If you have concerns you should probably avoid wireless keyboard and mouse - use ones with cords on them.

As for Bluetooth and 802.11b, it always amuses me when a company says “We don’t know anything about that question but it is safe.” It might be safe - probably is safe - but that level of certainty is just funny.

Whether you use technology or not, painting on canvas sounds like a fine idea.  Betty Edwards, author of Drawing on the right side of the brain believed that drawing is neurologically similar to meditation, or at least a very different mental state from all this social interaction and wordsmithing.  Enjoy!

kkipper Great Britain (UK) Posted on 12/28/2005 at 05:54 PM

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decrepitoldfool - your reply made me smile! I definitely need to paint.

I note though that the “Teslar” watch can be bought for $49.95 - it is the “Philip Stein” bit that adds on the extra hundreds and thousands of dollars!

zilch Austria Posted on 12/29/2005 at 04:24 AM

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A side note- the Ministry of Health here in Austria just released recommendations for cell-phone use (unfortunately only in German).  The Minister, Maria Rauch-Kallat, points out that the health hazards are unknown and hotly debated, but in the interests of safety, says we should try to keep conversations short, use headsets, not phone when the reception is bad, etc.

I don’t know if cell phone use is unhealthy, but I use mine maybe twice a month.  Unfortunately, it’s impossible to pry my fifteen-year-old daughter away from hers.

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Xxena United States Posted on 02/01/2006 at 01:24 PM

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I did a websearch on the Teslar watches, saw them in a magazine and was interested.. strictly design/cost had nothing to do with the vodoo properties *twilight zone music now plays in background* .... stumbled across this place and have been reading posts here for over the past hour.  Have a few comments/posts to make later to some of the more recent rants and raves.. an interesting place.. ciao !

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J rizzle United States Posted on 05/30/2006 at 04:01 PM

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I just recently purchased the diamond version of the large quartz, and i must say that it has definatly had a positive effect. You might be right in saying their claims are a bunch of bs, and that i am merly feelikng better due to my mind overpowering my body. But i must add that even if they dont auctually make you feel better directly, they have an indirect positve effect, such as, it definatly doesnt hurt to have an iced out watch when trying to impress some ladies. and judging by your picture you could use all the help you could get.

ps. they go all the way up to about 10k for a solid gold with diamonds which is a bargan compared to similar watches such as Patek Phillip and Jacob & co

Les United States Posted on 05/30/2006 at 05:18 PM

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Mr. Rizzle, I’ve been married for over five years now. My concerns with impressing the ladies these days are minimal and, in all honesty, if they’re impressed with a scam-watch such as this one then they’re not too bright in the first place and probably not my type.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 05/30/2006 at 06:13 PM

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Someone googles Tesla watches, and this thread spings back into life.

Right, for all you ‘Alternative medicine’ advocates out there, this is what you have to do to get taken seriously.

Organise a test with 4 groups.  Each group must be a statistically significant size (surprisingly this can be as low as 100 people, but the more the better).  The groups should be as identical as possible in age, sex, ethnicity etc as possible.

1st Group has the tested substance, and is told they have it.

2nd Group has placebo, and is told it is a placebo.

3rd Group has the tested substance, and is told they have the placebo.

4th Group has placebo, and is told it is a substance.

Now here is the cunning bit- the people handing out the stuff, and collating the results do not know who is being lied to- ie the doctor for a group is merely told that ‘this is xxx’ or ‘this is a placebo’, and then told which script to use.

This is the double blind- and eliminates any bias (including involuntary) by those in contact with the test subjects.

For best results repeat with new test groups.  More repeats you do the better- like tossing coins or rolling dice the more you do it the more average the results become.

If the substance does do ‘exactly what it says on the tin’ then we should see the following

G1 improves most
G3 Improves second highest, or about the level of G1 (+/-5% is considered normal statistical margin)
G4 shows some improvement (due to placebo effect)
G2 shows no effect.

Yes it is odd there is a difference between G1 and G3, but research confirms the placebo effect works, EVEN WHEN ON THE CORRECT MEDICATION (weird eh).

Of all the therapies, Homeopathy is the most tested, and it has never worked in a truly neutral test.

Following the condemnation of a group of 12 leading UK doctors into ‘complementary therapy’, I read a number of letters defending it in one of the Broadsheets (possibly ‘The Times’).  The thrust of the arguments seemed to be the CT therapists make you feel better because they spend more time with you. NHS docs never have enough time.  Yep, and that’s why it works- patients respond better with TLC than just hard facts alone.  Research shows this.

Ponder this, o yea of too much faith.  If it worked the Glaxo’s et al would use it (coz it’s a damn site cheaper).  Then it would no longer be ‘alternative’.

(Now you understand why my crystal powered sister in law and I don’t agree all the time- I’m just too analytical)

LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 05/30/2006 at 06:48 PM

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LH: my crystal powered sister in law

What a great line. I’ve got one of those. LOL

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 05/30/2006 at 06:54 PM

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She’s a good laugh, great to get drunk with but she does tend to believe anything.  She has recently stopped being vege, as she found out plants feel pain too. (at least I think that’s my stepson said- it was my wedding so I had had about a bottle of Champaign)

zilch Austria Posted on 05/31/2006 at 02:44 AM

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Of all the therapies, Homeopathy is the most tested, and it has never worked in a truly neutral test.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that, Hussar.  According to the theory, the more dilute a homeopathic medicine is, the more powerful its effect.  Since I take no homeopathic medicine, my dilution is for all practical purposes infinite.  And I’m in great health.  I recommend this dosage to everyone.

She has recently stopped being vege, as she found out plants feel pain too.

Hmmm… how long can you live on a diet of minerals and water?

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Les United States Posted on 05/31/2006 at 02:33 PM

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Someone googles Tesla watches, and this thread spings back into life.

This is one of the threads that has gotten near-constant attention since the day I wrote it. It’s consistently one of the most accessed entries on the whole blog second only to my entry about The Camel Toe Song.

ExpressionEngine only just put in the ability to track the number of times an entry is viewed a few months back and this entry has over 12,220 views racked up. I’m actually surprised it doesn’t receive more comments considering all the people stopping by.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 05/31/2006 at 03:20 PM

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Since I take no homeopathic medicine, my dilution is for all practical purposes infinite

Ah allow me to sell you a bottle of homeopathic wine.  So dilute, one small sip and you fall over.  Bargain at £29.99.

She has recently stopped being vege, as she found out plants feel pain too.
Hmmm… how long can you live on a diet of minerals and water?

No she’s actually gone back to eating meat, apparently.

Does anyone know who the ‘mystic’ was a couple of years ago, who claimed she could live just on sunshine?  I think she was English and in her 40’s.  I was all in favour of testing this for about 8 weeks- ‘There’s your sealed room with no roof- see ya soon’… She just got a bit of air time in TV shows and they never said ‘go on then’. Idiots

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 05/31/2006 at 03:40 PM

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Zilch: According to the theory, the more dilute a homeopathic medicine is, the more powerful its effect.  Since I take no homeopathic medicine, my dilution is for all practical purposes infinite.  And I’m in great health.  I recommend this dosage to everyone.

>> “She has recently stopped being vege, as she found out plants feel pain too.”

Hmmm… how long can you live on a diet of minerals and water?

Wait!  According to homeopathic medicine, water has a ‘memory’ so it must be sentient.  So water can feel pain, too!

That just leaves minerals…

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 05/31/2006 at 03:56 PM

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Remember the guys pulling a suicide stunt in front of rolling cameras a couple years ago? They drank some ultra-potent homeopathic stuff that was diluted by a few more orders of magnitude. Way past the point where even a single molecule of the original stuff remained.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 05/31/2006 at 04:55 PM

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As I understand it most homeopathic remedies sold today on the high street are so dilute they are unlikely to contain any of the original substance (unless a molecule or two has managed to be in the fraction of a % that is used each time.

Does any one know the dilution amount, I have a feeling it is 1ml per litre (1:1000).  The number given shows the number of dilutions- go a C30 (an average common high street remedy) solution has been diluted, shaken, and 1ml of that put into a litre 30 times.  Thats 1 part in 10^90 (ie almost a google)

What most people don’t know was that homeopathy was invented by a German doctor in the late 19th Cent.  His original instructions said that the solution must be shaken against a bible....

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 05/31/2006 at 05:04 PM

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His original instructions said that the solution must be shaken against a bible....

Very important advice. It’s a little known fact that shaking the beakers against the wrong type of religious book may result in severely adverse side effects, like growing another penis.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 05/31/2006 at 05:18 PM

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It’s a little known fact that shaking the beakers against the wrong type of religious book may result in severely adverse side effects, like growing another penis.

there’s a joke in here somewhere....

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 05/31/2006 at 05:25 PM

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there’s a joke in here somewhere....

I forgot to mention that it’s permanently erect.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 05/31/2006 at 05:34 PM

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just having one causes me complaints…

...mostly along the lines of “For gods sake, stop poking me in the back with that thing, I’m trying to sleep”

zilch Austria Posted on 06/01/2006 at 01:52 AM

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Speaking of permanently erect penii:  check out this screenshot from the Rapture game Left Behind.  Adam is wearing a loincloth which does nothing to conceal his impressive hardon.  This is even more readily visible in the trailer.  I guess it must have been pretty exiting stuff, getting created and all…

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/01/2006 at 02:11 AM

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God’s looking awfully porky there, as well.

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zilch Austria Posted on 06/01/2006 at 02:42 AM

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Ah allow me to sell you a bottle of homeopathic wine.  So dilute, one small sip and you fall over.  Bargain at £29.99.

Ah, thanks, Hussar- the vibrations have already reached me, and I’m reeling.  Your payment will be sent by the same means, and with the same dilution…

So water can feel pain, too!

That just leaves minerals…

Given that minerals in crystalline form are more highly ordered than liquid water, DoF, they are probably also more sentient than water.  That just leaves air…

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