Latest snake-oil scam: Philip Stein Teslar watch.

Posted by Les on Friday, August 29, 2003 at 08:16 AM. Read 51177 times. Tags: , ,
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In addition to magnetic bracelets and shoe inserts to aid in healing and electrocution belts for weight loss, consumers looking to waste money on products with dubious medical claims can now blow their earnings on a watch that claims to protect your body from “electronic pollution” in the form of magnetic fields.

Wired News: A Watch Powered by Snake Oil

The Philip Stein Teslar watch contains a chip that works with the battery and coil to create a frequency that neutralizes the electromagnetic fields emanating from devices like cell phones, computers and radios, according to the company.

Research links electromagnetic fields with several health problems like headache, fatigue and memory loss, the company said. Those who wear the quartz watch allegedly sleep better, experience less stress and have improved concentration and more energy, it claims.

“It shields the body from these electromagnetic fields, and then the body can be more effective in taking care of itself and its immune system with those unwanted fields thrown off,” explained Ilonka Harezi, head of research for Teslar Inside, which manufactures the watch. “With us sticking cell phones to our heads, we need that protection,” Harezi said.

But others say the company’s claims are a bunch of bunk.

“There is not a chance in the world that (these types of devices) will do anything but lighten your wallet,” said John Moulder, a professor of radiation oncology at the Medical College of Wisconsin, who said he’s seen a slew of products that claim to do the same thing, including radio-frequency-proof lingerie.

Despite there being absolutely no scientific evidence that magnetic fields have any discernible effect on the body, and that’s something that has been studied extensively, the watches are being sold at such upscale stores as Bloomingdale’s New York and Royal Jewelers in Massachusetts for prices starting at $600 and going up to $2000 for one covered in diamonds. Needless to say, the watches are a hit among various celebrities and athletes and the clueless in general.

That’s it. I’m tired of being the only one who’s not making tons of money off of peoples’ stupidity and gullibility. I’m going to develop my own highly over-priced craptastic product with dubious medical claims that you don’t really need and start selling it to clueless idiots so I can be rich too. Perhaps it’s time I follow through on developing a patented Anti-Alien Anal Probe Ass Shield for people suffering from occasional alien anal probe syndrome. There certainly seems be enough of those people around judging from all the news items I read about it.

Link via Boing Boing.

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Mild Bill United States Posted on 08/29/2003 at 09:43 AM

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Dammit man…you stole my idea!!! I don’t call my device an Anti-Alien Anal Probe Ass Shield; I call it Extraterrestrial Enema Exclusion Equipment (EEEE or Quad E).  Yeah I know that enemas refer to a liquid solution not a solid probe, but my marketing group assures me anyone stupid enough to buy it will not be smart enough to know the difference.

In fairness Quad E won’t protect you from all alien probes; it’s only effective against probes from aliens from the Rigal star system.  My R & D department tells me that’s where over 65% of butt probes originate.  In the words of Jack Nicholson in the movie Mars Attacks, “Two thirds ain’t bad”.  I think I’ll get with Jack’s people to secure the rights to use that in my advertisements.  It’s almost as good as “4 out of 5 dentists agree”.  Maybe we can jointly market our devices as complementary to each other.  Muhahahahaha…the universe will be ours :happy:

Serai United Kingdom Posted on 08/29/2003 at 09:02 PM

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I found this alien abduction test and took it out of curiosity, it gave me a 72% liklihood that I had been abducted by aliens!!! :o So umm any chance of a discount on your anti alien ass probe thingie then?

Mild Bill United States Posted on 08/30/2003 at 09:23 AM

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I only scored 42, but “two-fifths ain’t bad”.  If I was you Serai, I would buy both the AAAPAS and the Quad E...your chances of being abducted exceed the maximum specs for my device alone smile

Dr. S. Arnold United States Posted on 10/02/2003 at 09:24 PM

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Your obviously do not own a Teslar watch; or know much about the eletromagnetic patterns of our planet.

Les United States Posted on 10/02/2003 at 10:26 PM

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No, I don’t own a Teslar watch and yes I do know quite a bit about the electromagnetic patterns of our planet. Enough to know this watch is bullshit. Care to elaborate?

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teslar fan United States Posted on 10/03/2003 at 05:10 PM

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i do believe in the Teslar enough to wear it for almost 4yrs now. I am also an employee of Teslar. I hear stories everyday of people who are greatful to finally have relief from their constant headaches and pain. I know several doctors who recommend these to their patients. I think that maybe this technology is hard to understand to people who don’t wide their minds to diffrent things. Alot of people believe in the traditions on medicine and some believe in the best of alternative med. Though it is your right to not like Teslar and that you are by far the most negative person I met and would probably not like a Teslar because it might actually make you happy. I love my job and I am very happy to help those in need. I talk to some of the best people in the world at this job and I also recomend that you read a great book called The Resonance in Residence and then maybe Ilonka and you can actually have a professional talk out the technology behind all of this. You shouldn’t talk bad about the stuff you have no idea about.

Les United States Posted on 10/03/2003 at 06:56 PM

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i do believe in the Teslar enough to wear it for almost 4yrs now. I am also an employee of Teslar. I hear stories everyday of people who are greatful to finally have relief from their constant headaches and pain. I know several doctors who recommend these to their patients. I think that maybe this technology is hard to understand to people who don’t wide their minds to diffrent things.

I’ve read up on how this watch supposedly works. It’s bullshit, but if you think I don’t fully understand what it’s supposed to be doing then, by all means, enlighten me. I’m sure you’ve heard from people who sincerely feel the watch has helped them. I know of people who sincerely think that homeopathic medicines have helped them as well. After spending $2000 on one of your watches I’m willing to bet some of these people would believe it worked even if it caused their hands to fall off.

I am very open minded, but I’m no fool. If there is a solid scientific process at work then please explain it as I would be happy to hear it.

Alot of people believe in the traditions on medicine and some believe in the best of alternative med.

And some people believe in Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster, two other things that appear to be just so much more bullshit. The fact that people believe in your product doesn’t prove anything other than there are some gullible people out there. Provide some evidence it works beyond people saying they think it worked and we’ll have something to discuss.

Though it is your right to not like Teslar and that you are by far the most negative person I met and would probably not like a Teslar because it might actually make you happy.

This has got to be the stupidest thing I’ve heard in a long time. You’ve not really met me, you’ve only read what I’ve posted on this website. Yes, my comments on this watch have been negative and you’ve given me no reason to change that opinion. I’m quite happy in general without the need for your special watch. In fact, I’m pretty amused by your whole reply so far.

I love my job and I am very happy to help those in need.

Let’s finish that sentence properly: I love my job and I am very happy to help those in need of lightening their wallets on craptastic products with bogus medical claims. There, that’s better.

I talk to some of the best people in the world at this job and I also recomend that you read a great book called The Resonance in Residence and then maybe Ilonka and you can actually have a professional talk out the technology behind all of this. You shouldn’t talk bad about the stuff you have no idea about.

I’ll check the book out, thanks for recommending it. It’s the first thing you’ve mentioned that comes close to offering some sort of support for your claims. As for not talking bad about stuff I have no idea about, I do have an idea about it and it’s bullshit. The folks at Quackwatch already have your watch listed for followup under their Questionable Medical Claims. That’s not a good sign in itself.

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Brock United States Posted on 10/04/2003 at 12:45 AM

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“I’m sure you’ve heard from people who sincerely feel the watch has helped them. I know of people who sincerely think that homeopathic medicines have helped them as well.”
Les, I’m not going to defend the “theory” that supposedly links electromagnetic fields with several health problems like headache, fatigue and memory loss, as I have yet seen little evidence to suggest that any ill effects result from such low level exposure as can be received from devices like cell phones, computers and radios.

My question is focused on the position you seem to take regarding the validity of homeopathy as a valid treatment proceedure.

Homeopathy, as I understand it, is the treatment of maladies based on the observation that a given substance can cure in a diseased person the symptoms that it produces or causes in a healthy person.

ABC Homeopathy
(http://www.abchomeopathy.com/homeopathy.htm) offers some basic statements and considerations.

“Homeopathy is the second most widely used system of medicine in the world. Its growth in popularity in the United States has been around 25 to 50 percent a year throughout the last decade.

Homeopathy is extremely effective. When the correct remedy is taken, results can be rapid, complete and permanent.

Homeopathy is completely safe. Even babies and pregnant women can use Homeopathy without the danger of side effects. Homeopathic remedies can also be taken alongside other medication without producing unwanted side effects.

Homeopathy is natural. Homeopathic remedies are normally based on natural ingredients.

Homeopathy works in harmony with your immune system, unlike some conventional medicines which suppress the immune system. (For example, cough medicines suppress the cough reflex, which is your body’s attempt to clear the lungs)

Homeopathic remedies are not addictive - once relief is felt, you should stop taking them. If no relief is felt, you are probably taking the wrong homeopathic remedy.

Homeopathy is holistic. It treats all the symptoms as one, which in practical terms means that it addresses the cause, not the symptoms. This often means that symptoms tackled with Homeopathy do not recur.

Information pulled from the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States website
(http://www.hpus.com/)provides information extracted here, regarding regulations and guidelines concerning homeopathic medicines.

“Homeopathy is the art and the science of healing the sick by using substances capable of causing the same symptoms, syndromes and conditions when administered to healthy people.
Any substance may be considered a homeopathic medicine if it has known “homeopathic provings” and/or known effects which mimic the symptoms, syndromes or conditions which it is administered to treat, and is manufactured according to the specifications of the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States (HPUS).
Homeopathic drugs are drugs under the law. The initials “HPUS” on the label of a drug product assures that legal standards of strength, quality, purity and packaging exist for the drug product within the package. The active ingredients are official Homeopathic Drug Products and are found in the current Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States. The standards which must be met in order to append HPUS to a substance or a product are established by the Homeopathic Pharmacopœia Convention of the United States, a non-governmental, non-profit scientific organization composed of experts in the fields of medicine, arts, biology, botany, chemistry and pharmacy who have had appropriate training and experience and have demonstrated additional knowledge and interest in the principles of homeopathy.
Since June 9, 1990, a number of changes in status of homeopathic remedies have taken place. Numerous remedies that were once sold as Over-The-Counter, have moved to prescription status. This is due to the publication of the FDA Compliance Policy Guide 7132.15 “Conditions Under Which Homeopathic Drugs May Be Marketed,” and the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States (HPUS). These documents form the basis for the regulation of homeopathic drugs in the United States.
For many years (from 1938-1988) homeopathic drugs were sold in a regulatory vacuum. FDA action was based on institutional understanding and informal agreements between agency officials and industry members. This caused the FDA to regulate in an unpredictable manner that made the homeopathic industry unsafe from a regulatory and investment standpoint; and the practice of homeopathy open to the whims of local regulators. During the period, the FDA viewed all homeopathic remedies as prescription drugs. From 1982-1988, the industry, professional and consumer members of the community through the American Homeopathic Pharmacists Association (AHPhA) worked with the FDA in the development of a regulatory framework called a Compliance Policy Guide (CPG). The new CPG strengthened the definition of the homeopathic drug, set forth guidelines for the prescription and nonprescription drugs and made clear packaging and labeling.
The most important element was that the CPG established that homeopathic drugs could be OTC; setting guidelines for an OTC homeopathic drug by saying that an OTC homeopathic was a homeopathic drug claimed for a self limiting condition which did not require medical diagnosis or monitoring and was non-toxic. Further, such drugs, whether sold on an active or reactive basis, needed to be fully labeled with at least one indication for use (and a package insert if Rx.)
Non-official drugs would require the manufacturer to produce a proving or sufficient clinical data for the FDA to make a determination as to whether the drug was in fact homeopathic.
The HPUS is “written” by a group of pharmacists, physicians and lay people who meet 3-6 times a year to review monographs (information about specific drugs) and pharmacy procedures. Currently, there are about 1,350 drugs in the Pharmacopœia, 440 or so are prescription in some potency and 20 or so are Rx.

There must be proof of efficacy for a substance to be considered a curative. Here, the difference between homeopathic remedies and a placebo is that the homeopathic remedy has met the minimum standard set by the FDA and HPUS, to allow it to be classified as a medicine.

The National Center for Homeopathy (http://www.homeopathic.org/meds.htm) explains the process for creating a homeopathic medicine.

“Homeopathic medicines are drug products made by homeopathic pharmacies in accordance with the processes described in the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States, the official manufacturing manual recognized by the FDA. The substances may be made from plants such as aconite, dandelion, plantain; from minerals such as iron phosphate, arsenic oxide, sodium chloride; from animals such as the venom of a number of poisonous snakes, or the ink of the cuttlefish; or even from chemical drugs such as penicillin or streptomycin. These substances are diluted carefully until little of the original remains.

A plant substance, for example, is mixed in alcohol to obtain a tincture. One drop of the tincture is mixed with 99 drops of alcohol (to achieve a ratio of 1:100) and the mixture is strongly shaken. This shaking process is known as succussion. The final bottle is labeled as “1C.” One drop of this 1C is then mixed with 100 drops of alcohol and the process is repeated to make a 2C. By the time the 3C is reached, the dilution is 1 part in 1 million! Small globules made from sugar are then saturated with the liquid dilution. These globules constitute the homeopathic medicine.

Although such infinitesimal quantities are considered by some to be no more than placebos, the clinical experience of homeopathy shows that the infinitesimal dose is effective: it works upon unconscious people and infants, and it even works on animals.

It is important to remember, however, that a medicine is homeopathic only if it is taken based upon the similar nature of the medicine to the illness. A medicine labeled as “homeopathic” will work only if it is homeopathic to the symptoms presented.”

Did you mean to suggest that homeopathy is a “quack” science? Forgive me if I’ve perceived eroneously that you consider homeopathy as such, but other entries you’ve posted led me in that direction.

I have no personal testimonials to offer in support of homeopathic medicine, but find myself wondering if I need to keep an open mind.

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horseheart United States Posted on 10/04/2003 at 01:28 AM

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Les, I am a Teslar wearer and I can assure you, it is not a scam! For 10 years I suffered everyday from fibromyalgia. They cant explain what causes this but 10 million people suffer everyday with no hope of relief. After being poked and proded, doped and nope hope. Out of desperation I tried a Teslar watch. You cannot even fathom the difference in my life! Just as you know nothing of agonizing illness, you know nothing of researching your comments and critizing bullsit! There is plenty of documentation on EMF and proof of its ability to harm humans and animals. Try spending a little more time educating yourself on your topics before you spread your pesimistic views to people who are in dire need of optimistic ones. Do some good for the world for once in your miserable life! Remember just because Les doesnt know about it doesn’t mean it can’t exist.

Les United States Posted on 10/04/2003 at 01:57 PM

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Brock, yes I do mean to suggest that homeopathy is a quack science. Every major study that has aimed to prove their effectiveness has turned up nothing to support their claims. At it’s best it works only as a placebo and at it’s worst it can be dangerous.

Horseheart, you’re offering nothing to support your claims just as the two Tesla fans before you didn’t. Personal anecdotes don’t amount for shit compared to hard data. Put up or shut up. I’ve been following the studies of EMF over the years and so far the studies are not in favor of it being a real factor in the cause of disease. Regardless of whether or not EMF can cause problems there is nothing any of you have said about this watch that would lead me to believe that it has any ability to cancel out the harmful effects of EMF. All you’ve handed me is more bullshit.

Don’t like that I’m negative about your wonder product? Then prove me wrong with more than just “I’ve been using it for 10 years and my all my illnesses vanished like magic!” Otherwise I’ll continue to point out what bullshit it is.

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horseheart United States Posted on 10/05/2003 at 03:22 AM

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About 1950-1952, the Soviets developed EM machines that could influence the brain and nervous system directly. This included the Lida machine, which can induce a catatonic state into a mammal such as a man, a cat, etc. U.S. scientists, obtaining one of these devices in the 1980s, reported that it utilized a 40 MHz carrier, and produced unusual waveforms (showing the multiple frequency content). Since the U.S. scientists do not possess scalar EM detectors, they have no measurements or knowledge of possible scalar components in the Lida’s output signal. According to one U.S. scientist, the device was used by North Korean interrogators in brainwashing U.S. prisoners in North Korea during the Korean War, and was highly effective

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project233.html

Ok Les,
For example: Let me do your research! Once again,try doing it yourself.
Personal anecdotes don’t amount for shit compared to hard data. Put up ...

You are saying what? You show me hard data that proves us wrong.. We tell you we know and you say because Les has not seen it, it cannot be true...hmmm? Talk about scams, you wouldn’t by chance be trying to get a free Teslar watch out of this debate would ya? I only wonder considering, I have experienced it, and if you really wanted to prove us wrong you would have utilized you wonderous I.Q. to find any scientific data to prove the Teslar chip is not what the patent claims. This company has done everything in their power to make the scientific data available to you and anyone else who wants so badly to prove them wrong. Personally, if you find it, I really would appreciate the insight. So far you seem to be the only negative view I see on the net. Oh, by the way could you ask you webmaster:Tomer Shiran to remove you from the priority listing until you can support your statements? He has too much credibility to copyright his name to someone like you.
Les, did you happen to check out the link above? Unexplained power outages? hmmmmm.....

Les United States Posted on 10/05/2003 at 06:16 PM

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Now I know you’re clueless when you try to cite Tom Bearden to backup your claims. Tell me, do you happen to own one of Tom’s “Motionless Electromagnetic Generator” (MEG) free energy devices to go along with your Teslar watch?

What? You thought tossing me a link to a website with a copy of an article written by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.) would have me suddenly changing my mind? You probably assumed I had never heard of Tom Bearden or his nutty claims before and that his big title would convince me of the error of my ways. Bearden is well-known to skeptics as are his crackpot theories such as the small segment you cited above. I believe Bearden likes to claim that the Russians are responsible for both of the space shuttle accidents due to their use of their supposed “scalar EM weapons” to knock them out of the sky. Seems he’s big into conspiracy theories as well as junk science.

You are saying what? You show me hard data that proves us wrong..

You’re the one making the ridiculous claims so the burden of proof is on you. Until you can provide reasonable evidence backing up your claims I will continue to call them bullshit. Your first go at it above produced a known nutcase which just reinforced my claim that the Teslar watch is bullshit.

We tell you we know and you say because Les has not seen it, it cannot be true…hmmm?

Nope, I say because it makes claims that are too good to be true and which have no basis in solid science it cannot be true. If you were to claim that you could fly by merely flapping your arms without any external help I’d tell you that you were full of shit too without ever needing to see it firsthand.

Talk about scams, you wouldn’t by chance be trying to get a free Teslar watch out of this debate would ya?

Nope. I’ve got no interest in quack medical devices. You can keep your watches.

I only wonder considering, I have experienced it, and if you really wanted to prove us wrong you would have utilized you wonderous I.Q. to find any scientific data to prove the Teslar chip is not what the patent claims.

Ooooo. It’s got a patent. Big deal. Receiving a patent is no guarantee that a product works as advertised. The patent office hands out patents for all manner of ridiculous ideas, including a specific way of swinging on a playground swing, so having a patent doesn’t mean a whole lot.

This company has done everything in their power to make the scientific data available to you and anyone else who wants so badly to prove them wrong.

Really? Where? I’ve been to the website and I’ve seen some testimonials there along with a FAQ that gives a very vague explanation of what the watch is supposed to do, but I don’t see anything that would appear to be a scientific study that proves the watchmakers claims.

Personally, if you find it, I really would appreciate the insight.

So would I.

So far you seem to be the only negative view I see on the net.

You’re not looking hard enough then.

Oh, by the way could you ask you webmaster:Tomer Shiran to remove you from the priority listing until you can support your statements? He has too much credibility to copyright his name to someone like you.

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. I don’t know Tomer Shiran or what “priority listing” I may happen to be on.

Les, did you happen to check out the link above? Unexplained power outages? hmmmmm…

Yes, I did. I spoke on it at the start of this response. Like I said before, if you’re trying to use Bearden as support for your argument then you’ve only supported my conclusion that this watch is bullshit.

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Buff Bearman United States Posted on 10/30/2003 at 09:54 AM

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Thanks for stimulating discussion about the Teslar watch.  I was skeptical at first and had my Medical Doctor investigate the Teslar watch for me.  His testing showed there were benefits.  I’ve had one for several years now and feel a difference.  Since they have a money back trial period, I would invite people to put it to the test in their lives.  I suggest using a credit card to pay for it.  That way, if there is any difficulty with the Teslar company refunding your money within 60 days of purchase, your credit card company will also go to battle for you.  Thanks again.  With or without a Teslar watch, I wish you a long, healthy, happy life.

Les United States Posted on 10/30/2003 at 10:25 AM

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I was skeptical at first and had my Medical Doctor investigate the Teslar watch for me. His testing showed there were benefits.

Please elucidate on what tests your doctor performed and how he verified that there was benefit to be gained. Has you doctor published his findings in any medical journals? If so, then which ones? If not, then why not? He would have proven benefits where other researchers have found absolutely none and could be up for major recognition if his findings are borne out.

Personally, I seriously doubt your Doctor ran any tests at all. I suspect you’re just trying to lend a tone of credibility to your response.

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Ragman United States Posted on 10/30/2003 at 10:54 AM

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The Philip Stein Teslar watch contains a chip that works with the battery and coil to create a frequency that neutralizes the electromagnetic fields emanating from devices like cell phones, computers and radios, according to the company.

Hmmm.... physics, anyone?  It’s this crazy science that has shown promise.

The Teslar watch could “work” by destructive interference.  This requires the generation of an EMF of the SAME freq as the harmful EMF, but with 180 deg phase shift where the two waves meet.  It would cancel the waves out at the point of intersection, but does not destroy the particle energy.  It also provides you with a constant source of EMF at the same “harmful” freq, and a minor side effect of rendering your electronics unuseable when your watch is nearby. 

I have a better idea, and you won’t have to pay for it.  I’ll gladly remove all cellphones, tvs, radios, DVD players, VCRs, CD decks, PDAs, computers, etc from your home, providing you with a greatly reduced EMF environment, not to mention a significant increase in peace and quiet.

Barring that, the only way to keep those pesky aliens from trasmitting through your fillings is to wear a full suit of metal armor (properly grounded, of course).  Just think of yourself as a piece of human coax cable. smile

Ragman United States Posted on 10/30/2003 at 12:37 PM

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I was skeptical at first and had my Medical Doctor investigate the Teslar watch for me. His testing showed there were benefits.

Kickback tests, maybe? wink

nowiser United States Posted on 10/30/2003 at 03:49 PM

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“His testing showed there were benefits”

Yes indeed; the ‘benefit’ was tangible-- I ALWAYS knew what time it was as long as I was wearing my Teslar watch.

josh United States Posted on 10/31/2003 at 02:11 AM

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I got my philip stein teslar dual analog watch off of skymall for $179 I am not going to say it cured me(I’m not even going to say I could feel anything).  I didn’t notice a difference, however, I love the watch it looks really cool, its a great conversation piece, and I will tell you that is practically indestructable, a seiko would have busted by now trust me smile.  lets face it for $179, that watch is a masterpiece, teslar chip or none.

Les United States Posted on 10/31/2003 at 05:56 AM

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You know what Josh? That’s the first endorsement I’ve heard from someone about this watch that makes any sense at all. Fair enough too. Whether the Teslar chip does a damned thing it’s still a watch and if you like how it looks and it tells time accurately then it could easily be worth the money for you.

I can accept that explanation without question or complaint, but the moment someone claims it’s curing them of all their ills I’m going to call them on it. grin

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paul United States Posted on 11/01/2003 at 10:18 PM

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Whether or not the Teslar watch actually does what it claims is almost a moot point.  It also happens to be a good looking dual time zone watch.  As far as style goes it happens to be a very fine timepiece with nothing else comparable on the market in this price range.  So, if it’s a watch you need, great.  And if the watch actually helps someone (regardless of what they paid -new stuff always makes you feel good) then all the better.
I mean if an anal ass probe protection system looks good then why not invest?

Les United States Posted on 11/02/2003 at 11:32 AM

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I disagree. When the watch price starts at $600 then it had best do everything that it claims. Being merely a stylish and useful timepiece at that point is no longer enough to justify that kind of cost. The advertisements push the medical benefits of the watch as justification and there is no basis to those claims. If you bought one and you’re happy with it, that’s one thing, but saying that it’s stylish and functional regardless of whether it does what it claims to do is not a good justification for buying one.

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josh United States Posted on 11/07/2003 at 07:19 PM

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Yeah,
I cannot see paying 600 bucks for a phillip stein watch.  For $179 it is a bargain, I had a little mishap with the watch when I was trying to turn off the water main(which had not been used for years and was rusted shut), My wrench snapped and my wrist flew into the concrete, my watch took the full hit right on the crystal, it hit so hard that the pin holding the band snapped, and the watch bruised my wrist. my wrist was swollen for days( who knows what would have happened to my wrist had the watch not been there.  anyway the crystal has a tiny little scratch and I fixed the pin in the band, I have busted a seiko, over a much smaller mishap. The watch shouldn’t work after an impact like that
bu it does.  I don’t know if it protects you from cell phone radiation or not, but I really hope you can still get my model for $179, for $600 you might as well get a swiss watch. smile

Derek United States Posted on 11/09/2003 at 05:04 PM

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Les, I am a Teslar wearer and I can assure you, it is not a scam! For 10 years I suffered everyday from fibromyalgia. They cant explain what causes this but 10 million people suffer everyday with no hope of relief. After being poked and proded, doped and nope hope. Out of desperation I tried a Teslar watch. You cannot even fathom the difference in my life! Just as you know nothing of agonizing illness, you know nothing of researching your comments and critizing bullsit! There is plenty of documentation on EMF and proof of its ability to harm humans and animals. Try spending a little more time educating yourself on your topics before you spread your pesimistic views to people who are in dire need of optimistic ones. Do some good for the world for once in your miserable life! Remember just because Les doesnt know about it doesn’t mean it can’t exist.

Maybe I can shed a bit of light on our friend’s malady.  Fibromyalglia, as well as Chronic Fatigue Sydrome, are often not indicative of a physical disease, but rather a mental illness.  Please, take no offense, baffling illnesses such as fibromyalglia that have no or overly broad range of causes lead researchers to increasingly believe they are defecits in certain neurotransmitter levels, namely substance P, serotonin, and norepinephrine.  Gulf War Syndrome is believed to be quite similiar in symptoms and origin.  Ailments of a purely mental basis often respond curiously well to seemingly bizarre remedies.  Rest assured, psychosomatic illnesses are quite common.  Many schizophrenics, manic depressives, and the like report and demonstrate physical symptoms that, while in the sense of pain and suffering are real, are merely mental manifestations of other maladies. 

A terrifically powerful example I can offer of the pain a psychosomatic illness can produce is the phenomena known as stigmata.  The wounds of Christ appear on the palms of the affliced(amongst other places).  Every iota of scientific evidence we have tells is that crucifixtion involved nails through the wrists, not the palms.  So why do these people get the wounds on their palms?  A big part of it is certainly the artistic misrepresentations that fill every Church depicting Christ with nails through his palms.  Wholly, however, it is simply a physical manifestation of their deep, and I emphasize deep, religious faith.  Nonetheless, their pain and suffering is still quite real. 

I hate to warn you of this, but when you realize that watch is bogus your fibrolmyalglia will return.  Just as patients in studies have their symptoms return when they learn they were getting the placebo, you will as well.  EMF has many exciting uses and benefits, but in regards to this watch, I am unable to find any solid scientific proof of it’s benefits.  There are tests that could be run, and I imagine eventually someone will get peeved enough to run them. 

Fortunately there is something I believe you could do.  And I am recommending this from the bottom of my heart and my own personal experience.  Your fibromyalglia is real, and it hurts like hell, but I think you are seeing the wrong type of doctor.

Nicky Europe Posted on 11/12/2003 at 08:02 AM

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The watch is supposed to protect from the harfull effect of EMF, right ? But as far as I know from some statistics, only about 10% are sensitive to EMF. The watch may be effective to these 10%; but the fact it has no magical effect on the 90% of other people is normal, it does not mean it is inefficient. Personally, I am electrosensitive, I used it, and it was quite efficient, although not perfect. I believe in it, but I just think the people that are trying to sell it are overstating its effects instead of doing serious scientifical experiments to test it.

kkipper United Kingdom Posted on 12/28/2005 at 07:57 AM

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Thanks - I am finding this thread interesting - I have a major problem with Atrial Fibrillation - an irregularity of the heartbeat. it means I go in to hospital a lot to have it put back in to sinus rhythm and it is wrecking my life.

i read abut this watch today in the Daily Telegraoh at the Drs surgery and I am hoping it could help to wear one. I know you sceptics say its not good but can anyone tell me if its safe for my condition?  OK I could be sceptical too but Id do anyting to gt my heart to go regular - and stop the stress in my life. im not expecting it would act like a pacemaker but I need to now if it would be SAFE with my conditition.

Any positive advice would be welcome!

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