Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort to “scientifically” prove God’s existence.

Posted by Les on Friday, April 27, 2007 at 11:24 PM. Read 18512 times. Tags: , , ,
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This should be funny and not just because Kirk Cameron used to co-star in a sitcom. He and creationist Ray Comfort have challenged the guys who set up The Blasphemy Challenge to a debate and ABC has agreed to host it. You may remember Kirk and Ray from the wildly funny video in which they claim that the banana is an “atheist’s nightmare” because God made it so it would fit in our hands perfectly thus proving God exists or something.

Here’s the real kicker of this bit of news: Comfort is claiming he will scientifically prove the existence of God:

“Most people equate atheism with intellectualism,” Comfort added, “but it’s actually an intellectual embarrassment. I am amazed at how many people think that God’s existence is a matter of faith. It’s not, and I will prove it at the debate - once and for all. This is not a joke. I will present undeniable scientific proof that God exists.

I wonder what odds the bookmakers are giving for Comfort trying to whip out his banana argument. If he does it’ll just be that much funnier. As for Cameron, well, here’s what he’s going to add to this circus…

Cameron ("Growing Pains” sitcom and Left Behind movies) will speak on what he believes is a major catalyst for atheism: Darwinian evolution. The popular actor stated, “Evolution is unscientific. In reality, it is a blind faith that’s preached with religious zeal as the gospel truth. I’m embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory. The issue of intelligent design is extremely relevant at the moment. Atheism has become very popular in universities--where it’s taught that we evolved from animals and that there are no moral absolutes. So we shouldn’t be surprised when there are school shootings. Cameron will also reveal what it was that convinced him that God did exist.

Oooo! I can hardly wait to hear what stunning revelation convinced Kirk to become a True Believer™!

Mark your calendars for May 5th as that’s when the hilarity will begin.

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Fall Downed United States Posted on 04/28/2007 at 12:29 AM

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These guys are a true believer’s nightmare!

I’m embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory.

It always amazes me how these True Believers™ are so arrogant.

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 04/28/2007 at 12:40 AM

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Oooo! I can hardly wait to hear what stunning revelation convinced Kirk to become a True Believer™!

Maybe the ignominy of actually starring in “Growing Pains” drove him to religion.

Fall Downed: It always amazes me how these True Believers™ are so arrogant.

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zilch Austria Posted on 04/28/2007 at 05:12 AM

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In the interests of fair play, I think that it would be unsporting for Cameron and Comfort to have to debate the Blasphemy Challenge people.  I suggest that they debate the banana.  My money’s on the banana.

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whitebloodoftheheavens United States Posted on 04/28/2007 at 09:31 AM

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It’s funny watching arrogant peopel who love self-martyrdom(oh, im a sinner, i deserve hell, i deserve to suffer, i am meaningless!) try and do the world a favor, its so.....unnatural.

But, it should be worth a few laughs.  What I beliebe already has this sort of thing taken care of, not with bananas, but with thermal imaging cameras.  itll be a lovely day when they have evp detectors and thermal cameras during a church service. 

the worst part is, the vatican or the christian coalition might actually sponsor that sort of thing.

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Thriceberg United States Posted on 04/28/2007 at 02:42 PM

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That video is wrong!  Everyone knows you don’t open the banana from the stem, you pinch the “bottom” and then peel it open.  Even monkeys know that. (or is it apes?  Creationists have me confused)

Even if that argument made sense, how is that an argument for Christianity and not Islam?  Or Zoroastrianism?  There are plenty of religions out there claiming their gods created the world.

Bahamat United Kingdom Posted on 04/28/2007 at 03:04 PM

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Proof would have to tie in with science, and so would come from data from analytical machines.

If god did exist, he would have to be in a dimension that we don’t currently observe. All analytical machines operate entirely within the dimensions that we do observe, so will never be able to directly probe that other dimension. A kind of double-coupling to produce something physical might be possible, but you couldn’t keep track of this if wou can’t measure what your physical object (that has unobserved components) is coupling with

The existence of god can never be proven or disproven so long as we are unable to observe that other dimension, and you never know if there’s more to trick you after that.

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Fall Downed United States Posted on 04/28/2007 at 04:15 PM

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It’s funny watching arrogant peopel who love self-martyrdom(oh, im a sinner, i deserve hell, i deserve to suffer, i am meaningless!) try and do the world a favor, its so.....unnatural.

I never really thought of it this way before...but misery does love company!

LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 04/28/2007 at 08:34 PM

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the banana is an “atheist’s nightmare” because God made it so it would fit in our hands perfectly thus proving God exists

Yeah, and all other fruit doesn’t support god’s existence.
Have a banana.

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Last_Hussar United Kingdom Posted on 04/28/2007 at 10:22 PM

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Yeah, and all other fruit doesn’t support god’s existence.

I’ve got a melon with a carrying handle, and a apple thats Firewire compliant.

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buzz United States Posted on 04/29/2007 at 06:54 AM

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Ok, I had never seen the banana video before.  Holy cow!  I think my brain had a joke overload!  I need some aspirin.

Last_Hussar United Kingdom Posted on 04/29/2007 at 09:21 AM

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Same video, with facts added.

My penis fits perfectly in my hand.  Is God suggesting I should masterbate?

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zilch Austria Posted on 04/29/2007 at 01:52 PM

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My penis fits perfectly in my hand.

You must have some seriously big hands, LH LOL

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nowiser United States Posted on 04/29/2007 at 02:34 PM

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Is God suggesting I should masterbate?

Just don’t let any of the issue fall into the dust.  That’s a -BIG- fuckin’ no no.

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bengiman United States Posted on 04/29/2007 at 02:38 PM

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seems a little strange to come to the conclusion that the banana was made to fit the hand, not that the hand was made to fit the banana

Justice United States Posted on 04/29/2007 at 03:18 PM

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Bananas. How appropriate.

Justice United States Posted on 04/29/2007 at 03:22 PM

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P.S. All four of your current Google ads are offering proof of the existence of god.

hmmm

Last_Hussar United Kingdom Posted on 04/29/2007 at 05:22 PM

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You must have some seriously big hands,

I’ll take this as a compliment (but strust me- the old one about it’s not the size o the liner, but the motion of the ocean is perfectly true.)

I was going to put soemthing REALLY rude in here, but you would have all gone “eww!”

Course I’m not the only one dragging this into the gutter

Comfort trying to whip out his banana

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Les United States Posted on 04/29/2007 at 09:38 PM

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Justice, that doesn’t surprise me. It’s contextually driven, but that doesn’t mean it’s intelligent in its decision making.

Right now the four ads consist of “Is there a God?”, “Intelligent Design and God”, “Are you an atheist?”, and “Freethinking and FFRF.” The latter two being for the Council of Secular Humanism and the Freedom From Religion Foundation so my Google ad has a 50/50 split of religion/atheism in it.

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Psychromorbidus Canada Posted on 04/30/2007 at 02:14 AM

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Kinda funny but the banana they are debating isn’t really a natural creation.  The yellow banana was selectively breed to have those specific characteristics like the oh so nice hand grip and the convenient size.  Nature has also other species of bananas however they aren’t nearly as refined as the one presented within the film.  Sorry to say this but that banana is as much a human creation as a natural creation.  It’s like claiming God created the light bulb. Sure he created tungsten however it was Edison that put it properly together.  One could claim that God gave the light bulb idea to Edison however that opens a whole new can of worms; such as the claim hence that free will does not exist.  Based on my understanding that claim didn’t go very far.  It is laughable how their proofs shoot themselves in the foot; there are many “better” examples out there.  Reminds me of the peanut jar argument.  Life cannot happen spontaneously, especially if it is in a sterilized environment.  If you seal and sterilize a environment, no life would seek to inhabit it.  You wouldn’t expect mould in your peanut butter as all microbes have been removed from it.  If the jar was allowed to sit for a couple of months, then maybe he would have noticed something.  An utter shame more so that people believe such faulty arguments.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 04/30/2007 at 04:22 AM

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Les: and “Freethinking and FFRF.”

I just went over there and took their what do you know about the bible quiz.
I’m pretty stoked cos I got 28 outa 50 correct.
If I didn’t really know the answer I selected the most ridiculous or most obscene.
Obviously I didn’t choose those ones often enough.

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zilch Austria Posted on 04/30/2007 at 04:36 AM

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Life cannot happen spontaneously, especially if it is in a sterilized environment.

Well, it must have happened at least once, or we wouldn’t be here…

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Julian India Posted on 04/30/2007 at 06:29 AM

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If I didn’t really know the answer I selected the most ridiculous or most obscene.
Obviously I didn’t choose those ones often enough.

If you liked that you might want to try some of the biblical quizes over at the Landover baptist website(landoverbaptist dot org).

Webs United States Posted on 04/30/2007 at 11:28 AM

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My calendar is definitely marked!!!

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/30/2007 at 11:37 AM

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For some reason, the phrase “giving Comfort to the enemy” knocks around in my mind…

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Last_Hussar United Kingdom Posted on 04/30/2007 at 12:21 PM

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I’ve taken a copy of that quiz.  Some useful little bible passages in there for use in the story.

I stared at the report in disbelief.  “He said what?”
Josh grinned “You’ve got to the bit about eunuchs then?”
“Is he seriously suggesting we cut off our own balls?  Tell me you are making this up Joshua.”
Josh smirked. “How holy you feeling boss? Wanna borrow my knife?”

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