James Cameron claims he’s found Jesus. Literally.

Posted by Les on Saturday, February 24, 2007 at 08:08 PM. Read 3428 times. Tags: ,
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*Sniff* *Sniff* Smell that? That’s the smell of trouble brewing! Seems James Cameron has a new documentary in the works and boy is it ever a doozy! It claims that Jesus wasn’t resurrected at all and, in fact, his family grave has been found:

Let’s go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archaeologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.

Israel’s prominent archaeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn’t associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn’t afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshiping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ’s resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter’s wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archaeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Someone make up a big batch of popcorn pronto! This is gonna rile up a shit load of True Believers™ in no time. Sure most of them will just keep on believing anyway, but I’m sure they’re going to have one holy hell of a hissy-fit in the process.

Thanks to KPG for sending me the link.

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Brock United States Posted on 02/28/2007 at 12:33 PM

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My local noon news broadcast offered that proving this new location as Jesus’ burial spot would be akin to proving the Sun revolves around the Earth. It’s too bad they couldn’t see the error in that observation.

I guess the Earth really does revolve around Jesus.

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Not a decrepit old fool Sweden Posted on 02/28/2007 at 11:27 PM

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Every religion has at its central theme a powerful invisible being.

—- That would be Nature/Evolution - Ateism check.

Every religion has a belief in the soul which lives on after the body dies.

—- This is not a true statement. There’s plenty of religions that does not believe this. So Atheism check again.

Every religion has a method by which anybody can get to the highest place after death.

—-Not this is incorrect again. Islam says that you are predestined to hell, you cannot be saved according to Islam. There’s other religions like atheism that doesn’t teach this aswell. Calvinism is another one. There’s more out there.

Every religion has a book of beliefs and laws that must be abided by - failure to do so precludes one from the highest place.

—-The would be the Communist Manifesto in the case for atheism. Atheism check again.

Every religion has tests to pass.

—-That would be the tests in the atheist schools. Atheism check again.

Every religion has holy centres where the faithful gather.

—-Those are called schools, universities, faculties etc. Atheism check again.

Every religion has rituals to be performed in often traditional ways.

—-There’s plenty of rituals among atheists, so atheism check again. Scratching your butt is one of them.

Every religion extracts money from adherents in exchange for empty promises.

—-That would be you paying to learn the crap of atheism.

Every religion has elected or otherwise appointed guardians who have almost as much power as the invisible man.

—-The would be Darwin, Dawkins and the rest of the buttboys.

Every religion thinks it has the only truth.

—-Atheism thinks there is no God hence it thinks it hold the truth.

Every religion thinks non-adherents to their particular version of the truth will be cast into lakes of fire or something similar for eternity.

—-This is not true. There’s plenty of religions that don’t teach this, Universalism, Buddhism, Agnosticism, Atheism etc.

Every religion realises that fear of the unknown is the big converter for prospective adherents as long as they are the least intelligent and gullible.

—- This is very true for atheism.

Every religion preys on the gullible and least intelligent among us.

—- Atheism again, it’s especially cute since it’s followers claim to be the most intelligent but in most cases they’re less intelligent than a murderous muslim. Look at top atheists like Mao and the rest of that murderous crowd.

Another thing I nearly forget is that religion’s invisible man is responsible for all the good stuff that happens anywhere to anyone.

—-Darwin comes in again…

All the bad shit that happens is the result of the bad little being who the invisible man still gives life to even though the it’s in the invisible man’s power not to.

—-You’re one stupid sucker. You totally suck at this. Retire you decrepit old fool.

Atheism is a religion, deal with it. Dawkins is your present Pimp. Soon there will be another idiot taking his place and on we go.

You’re still all going to burn like bacon left on the stove…

MisterMook United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 12:18 AM

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Sometimes I wonder if SEB’s website address is scribbled onto the walls of Christian book store bathrooms somewhere, so all the little freakish Jesus-turds eventually visit to dish out some drive-by moron.

LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 03/01/2007 at 12:48 AM

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WELL! DoF. It looks like you made a good impression.  wink
It also looks like all the clowns aren’t in circuses, asylums and nursing homes.
I must admit I was rather amazed at how he was able to bend logic into stupid.
I shouldn’t have been.
Anyone who believes in the invisible man swooping about starting volcanoes and tsunamis can’t be all that bright.

Me: Every religion thinks it has the only truth.

Troll: Atheism thinks there is no God hence it thinks it hold the truth.

This is the only one he (I’m assuming she was a he) got sorta right … by default, and only because there is no evidence to prove atheism wrong. LOL

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moses Canada Posted on 03/01/2007 at 01:59 AM

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Go back up one or two replies where “nacof” says “you’re still going to burn like bacon” and my reply is fuck you, in you’re dreams, you asshole, how can you be so stupid, ............. want me to go on?
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Les United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 02:58 AM

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That has to be one of the most pathetic attempts to try and paint atheism as a religion I’ve ever seen. I’d rebut it point by point except it should be obvious to anyone, except perhaps the moron who made the comment, the problems it contains and I’m too busy laughing my ass off to bother.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 08:09 AM

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Y’know, NADOF, you seem to have drawn together a lot of statements; a couple made by me, some by others, and quite a few from your fevered imagination and attributed them all to me.  Very flattering.

If you want to be taken seriously… aww, nevermind.  No one is ever going to take you seriously.

moses Canada Posted on 03/01/2007 at 09:13 AM

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i have to hand it too you - Les and company, you people have more patience and tolerance than I have. Good for you!
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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 11:29 AM

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You’re still all going to burn like bacon left on the stove…

mmmmm, bacon

(had to be said.)

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 03/01/2007 at 04:40 PM

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NADoF

You pointless little… man.

I realise as a complete fuckwit logical arguement does not come with in your remit. LISTEN YOU ILL INFORMED EXCUSE FOR A RATIONAL HUMAN BEING.  ATHEISM ISNT A RELIGEON- THERE IS NO BELIEF SYSTEM- The same way in not believing in faries is a religeon.

I do not feel there is any need to go round not believing in something.  When something goes right I never say “Thank the randomness of the universe”.  I have no focus of belief. Not believing in something is not the same as irrational belief in its absence.

How do I know your a fuckwit?  You used the “I am a fuckwit” flag-

Deal with it

  A phrase used by people you make a statement, and then try to pretend the arguement is closed.

“2+2=5 - Deal with it”

“Deal with it makes it no more true than hanging a big banner saying “Mission Accomplished” on a Aircraft Carrier.

“The Communist Manifesto” as preached by that well know pinko, Bill Gates.

“Tests in schools” ??? Proof of fuckwittism. Because we ask kid questions, it must be a religeon.  So are job interviews a religeon.

Evolution isn’t an invisible being. Mother Nature is not a real woman. The same way as Pythagorous Theorum isn’t an individual person. IT IS AN ABSTRACT IDEA.

If a scientist states something of current thinking isn’t true- he isn’t murdered like that Moses (The OT one) did to his critics. Other scientists look at his evidence, and if it stands up, incorporate in the body of knowledge, throwing out old ideas if they conflict/shown to be invalid.

And if we were designed, it wasn’t intelligently- it was by a fuckwit.

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TheGreatBongChicken United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 05:27 PM

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Dear Mr. Les Jenkins,
I have written a Comprehensive Rebuttal on this subject we were discussing and it is posted on my website for you to respond to.  You are invited, your little friends, not so.

It is entitled “an open letter to Mr. Les Jenkins”

I didn’t call you Wes once.  I made sure.

-James’

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 05:45 PM

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Same shit, repeated, ad infinitum.

James, you have the reasoning ability of a two year old. All of your points were rebutted here and you simply don’t have the logical ability to understand the rebuttals.

Don’t feel bad, you were probably born that way.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 05:49 PM

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He’s got you there, Les.  It was actually something like six times.

Webs United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 05:58 PM

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What the fuck was his problem with discussing this here?  Rhetorical question I guess…

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Les United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 06:07 PM

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I’ve wasted enough time on this nonsense already so I’ll respectfully decline your invitation.

Instead I’ll go do something that, while not all that important, is still much more enjoyable: Play World of Warcraft.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 06:09 PM

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It’s probably something like this.  He wants a little quiet so he can think and convince

Wes

Les of the error of his ways.  Hard to do with the rest of us meanies ganging up on him like that.

Webs United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 06:25 PM

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That is still one of the funniest fucking Onion articles eva!!!

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TheGreatBongCHicken United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 09:43 PM

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Well, alright Les.  Anyone else who wants to can respond there, the format is messed up though because I used a new browser, Mozilla Seamonkey.  It’s not very stable yet. 

Anyway, what is your WoW name Les?  You play online I take it?

-James’

And the reason why I stopped discussing it here was simply because I don’t have a high speed connection at home, and for some reason this site loads very slow.  My site loads quite fast, probably because it doesn’t have as much bandwidth.  But if time permits, I’ll be back some time.

-James’(again)

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 10:10 PM

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Sounds like a desperate plea for attention to me.

See ya later, BongFucker

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Brock United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 11:06 PM

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Bong said: And the reason why I stopped discussing it here was simply because I don’t have a high speed connection at home, and for some reason this site loads very slow.

I doubt that was the real reason; I think you’re the kind of person who has to be right or you have a fit. If others don’t agree with you, you’ll keep on pushing the issue until they give in from exhaustion. Also that you have to have the last word in any discussion.

Additionally, by calling atheism a religion, it speaks volumes about the importance and uniqueness you deny Christianity. If religions are so common that even a lack of belief in a God is one, your religion must be equally as mundane and meaningless. Don’t get me wrong though: I can see why you afford Christianity so little distinctiveness.

Les has 100+ visitors for every one you have at your site so that’s why his site slows down sometimes.

Maybe someday you’ll learn how to have mature discussions with others without pouting but I’m not holding my breath.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 03/01/2007 at 11:37 PM

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Brock—- EVERYTHING you said ... right on!  LOL

You make me feel rather insignificant (just wink  joking) when I add the following:

BongFucker: Anyone else who wants to can respond there

I put together a 2 page rant but decided not to party for one simple reason – occasionally I will remember every now and again when confronted by FUCKING IDiots a regular trots out one simple little rule here at SEB which is not set in concrete but anyway, it goes like this: DON"T FEED THE FUCKING TROLL.
Actually it’s not really “DON"T FEED THE FUCKING TROLL” it’s more like a suggestive “don’t feed the troll” ... I just like using all derivatives of the word ‘fuck’ because it’s such a flexible little word and I’ve found out by much trial and error that the people who don’t like that fucking word are people I don’t particularly like or care about; I find that a rather convenient time saver.
Too subtle for ya? It must have something to do with your inability to rationalise the difference between science, logic, reality and the invisible man delusion.
As they say in the classics: go plat your poop.

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 03/01/2007 at 11:47 PM

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Ok, screw this atheism stuff.  I’m gonna just give in and start worshiping…The Flying Spaghetti Monster!  Hell yeah, all you non-believers are gonna boil in the boiling caldera of the beer volcano while me and the other Pastafarians enjoy the stripper factory.  Deal with it!

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Les United States Posted on 03/02/2007 at 02:03 AM

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What’s particularly amusing is that it appears GBC tried to post his rebuttal around 2:30PM this afternoon, but for some reason the Akismet anti-spam system seem to think it was comment spam and closed the comment on him. I hadn’t bothered to check Akismet until just now.

So the question is: Seeing as he’s already posted it on his own site should I bother releasing it as a post here?

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 03/02/2007 at 02:33 AM

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If he has anything new to say, I vote yes, but I also consider that highly unlikely.

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Les United States Posted on 03/02/2007 at 02:39 AM

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Well it’s certainly impressive in its length. I don’t know that it’s the same as whatever he posted on his own site because I haven’t bothered to check and I didn’t read too far into what Akismet trapped. I just thought it was funny that it got pegged as comment spam by the system.

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