How do you PROVE (or disprove) the life of someone that long ago with any certainity?

Anyway, even if it could be proven that he had existed, that would be no proof of anything supernatural about him (though it would give some people quite a lot of “We told you so!” ammunition).

The priest would probably just say something like, “He exist cause I have faith (I have heard this one before),” and people will swoon.

F’n idiots

Anyway, even if it could be proven that he had existed, that would be no proof of anything supernatural about him

Exactly. While there may be some proof that a man who matches many descriptions of Jesus Christ lived two thousand years ago, there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that he was the son of “God” (who likewise has no proof substantiating his/her/its existence).

So-called faith is the only evidence that exists for the very religious, yet it seems to be all the proof regarding the veracity of their beliefs they need (or indeed have). Would that they didn’t so readily expect others to see their personal faith as “proof,” though. I certainly don’t, particular in the cases of fundamentalist Christians (and many Muslims) where the so-called faith seems so thoughtless and blind.

Anyway, I don’t really expect this suit to create much of a dent in mainstream Christian circles, particularly on the American side of the pond. Since many Americans barely seem to grasp that there are other countries in the world besides their own, and since their opinions of other countries tend to be less than informed, my guess is that most Christians and the Right in general will probably chalk this story up to the secularization of Europe and not pay it much attention (though they may harp about it for ten minutes).

Plus, when one’s faith is strong (or blind) enough to dismiss physical evidence of dinosaur bones as playthings of Satan, I somehow doubt a lawsuit halfway across the world is going to have much effect.

ROTFL!

Les, you make a funkin’ funny good times forum w/ shit like this.

I love your sense of humor - its refreshingly dark and poignant.

Kinda like Lewis Black.

Regards,

Deoxy.

According to The Times article:

THE EVIDENCE
*The Gospels say that Jesus was born to the Virgin Mary in Bethlehem, grew up in Nazareth, preached and performed miracles in Galilee and died on the Cross in Jerusalem

jminnis: Gospels written later; writers were not eyewitnesses; no town of Nazareth existed

*In his Antiquities of the Jews at the end of the 1st century, Josephus, the Jewish historian, refers to Jesus as “a wise man, a doer of wonderful works� who “drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles�

jminnis: Josephus’ quote here nearly unanimously believed to be a later interpolation by Christians. Antiquities manuscripts found that do not contain the quote. Josephus was a loyal pharisee, he would not paint Jesus as a messiah

*Muslims believe Jesus was a great prophet. Many Jewish theologians regard Jesus as an itinerant rabbi who popularised many of the beliefs of liberal Jews. Neither Muslims nor Jews believe he was the Messiah and Son of God

jminnis: Islam did not surface until 600 years after the alleged time of Jesus. What do they know?

*Tacitus, the Roman historian who lived from 55 to 120, mentions “Christus� in his Annals. In about 120 Suetonius, author of The Lives of the Caesars, says: “Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, Emperor Claudius expelled them from Rome.�

jminnis: Again, not eyewitnesses of Jesus. Who is Chrestus?This in no way proves existence of Jesus.

jminnis: Seems to be he Signor Cascioli has a good case.

no town of Nazareth existed

Although a band called Nazareth indeed existed.

It is a matter of faith, either you believe,you don’t believe or you’re not sure.  I fall into the third catagory.  I believe that a man named Jesus did live in the first century, A.D.  I believed that he preached to the poor and the sick and the down-trodden and was man of compassion and believed in the good that he was doing (giving hope those that were left hopeless until he came along. Where I tend to have my doubts about his his rising from the dead.  I think those that “eye-witnessed” it, may have used it, not for personal gain, but because they so strongly believed that he was the son of man, that they may allowed thier religious fervor to compromise their grip on reality. All of that said, I think the world is a better place because moral compasses, such as the major religions of the do exist...Christianity being the kindest.

just wanted to make a note on how i enjoyed your,um,note. its refreshing to NOT hear the usual...wel you probably know.

Christianity is the kindest? That’s definitely a new one on me. I’d put forth Buddhism as being kinder in many respects than Christianity.

of course he existed, I have seen pictures of him all over the place.  He has reddish auburn colored long straight hair, blue eyes, light complexion and a nice smile.. . . . just like other jews.

LOL - even if it could be proved that he existed, so what? lot’s of people have “existed” it doesnt prove he is holy or anything.  jeeze.