Help save Karyn! Give her a swift kick in the ass!

Posted by Les on Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 11:01 AM. Read 2078 times. Tags:
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I first heard about this from my good friend Kiiri, who doesn’t have her own blog yet so I can’t link to it even though she keep saying she’s going to do it, and I avoided talking about it at the time. Recent events have convinced me I should bitch a little about it though.

Seems some “really nice” girl by the name of Karyn has managed to rack up $20,000 in credit card debt and has put up a website asking for donations from people to help her pay off this debt. According to her website she has managed to received about $6,736.68 in donations from other “really nice” people along with $1600.36 in sales of various assorted items of hers on eBay. Combined with the money she’s been paying into it herself she’s gotten her credit card down to $10,408.80 in 8 weeks.

My first reaction on seeing the site was mild amusement, but I didn’t harbor any doubts about it working. I’ve seen first hand that there are lots of people out there willing to toss time, money, and effort behind any number of useless and stupid causes and Karyn is just cashing in on it. I’ve said many times in the past that anytime someone feels the need to spend money on me for no good reason to feel free to do so, that’s why I have my Amazon Wishlist linked on my site, but I’ve never approached it as though I thought I deserved to have people spend money on me and that probably explains why very few people do. Though Laughing Muse did send me the book listed in my currently reading section which was a great surprise.

The site has already garnered it’s fair of critical reaction including a parody site called Don’t Save Karyn which currently ranks as my personal favorite. It has also received just tons of publicity from the mainstream media which hasn’t hurt it’s ability to attract donations. Naturally lots of bloggers have weighed in on the topic including Kat over at My Single Mom Life and it was the reaction she got to her entry on it that prompted me to write my own.

Seems she pissed a few of Karyn’s supporters off by being critical of someone who’s begging for money that doesn’t really need it. Karyn’s working, is paid relatively well and doesn’t appear to be close to destitute. She just sounds like she’s really a piss-poor money manager. She may even be “really nice” as she claims on her website, but she’s hardly what I’d call a worthy charity case. You can see a couple of pics of this poor destitute woman over at The Smoking Gun as her image is obscured on her website. I can admire her ability not to give a shit what her critics think, but I think she’s in need of a swift kick in the ass more than a donation. There are a lot of other people out there that these people could be sending money to who could really use it, many of whom can’t even afford to own a computer to put up a website to ask for it.

Still, I’ll never stand against someone’s right to spend their money on stupid shit so allow me once again state that if you need to spend money on someone for no good reason, well, I’m always willing to accept it. I can even come up with a good cause for you! I need to buy a house some time early next year as I’m sick of living in this crummy little two bedroom apartment. Currently I plan on using my upcoming income tax return as part of the down payment, but if I got 10,000 people to donate $1 then I’d have more than enough for a down payment and could spend my income tax return on furniture for the house! Now if that’s not a worthy cause, what isn’t? I’ll tell the mailman to expect the onset of back problems from the upcoming flood of checks. Thank you.

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Kiiri United States Posted on 08/24/2002 at 07:12 PM

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*laugh* I have to get through the next couple weeks and make sure I still have a job - and as long as I do, THEN the blog will be going up.  Although Karyn gives me a good idea - perhaps I should put the blog up now, and then beg for money if I lose my job??

“I’m not buying Prada purses, but groceries would sure be helpful!!”

Les United States Posted on 08/25/2002 at 09:25 AM

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That would at least be a better cause in my mind than what she came up with. So let’s see, we’ve got your groceries and my house. Surely there’s enough stupid people with money to burn to support both those worthy causes!

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Kim United States Posted on 09/01/2002 at 12:50 PM

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For years I’ve been trying to think of ways of making money off the Internet (including recommending books on Amazon.com, selling t-shirts via CafePress, etc.)--all to no avail. Along comes Karyn who puts up a begging site and she not only gets money but she also gets publicity. It has also led to a very similar site called DELETED.

I thought about fighting people like her but I finally figured that if you can’t beat them--might as well join them. So I decided to start my own begging site called Aid Kim. You can see it at:

DELETED

kat United States Posted on 09/03/2002 at 05:22 AM

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hey, why not send money to people who really need it. i just looked at your site kim and it is cute and funny but if you or anyone else wants to really make a difference, help me keep my lights on would ya?...lol seriously, i’m gonna lose my electricity.

Les United States Posted on 09/03/2002 at 08:20 AM

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I have to admit that the more I think about this whole issue the more complex it gets. On the one hand, I don’t have a problem with folks like Kat who could use an extra hand having a PayPal donate button on their website or setting up Amazon affiliates and asking folks to click through her site when they go to buy books so she’ll get a little revenue. There are a lot of people who could use a little help from folks with a little to spare.

Karyn just doesn’t strike me as one of those people and yet she’s one of the first to receive a lot of attention over her online begging website. I’m sure she’s a very nice person in most respects, but she doesn’t really need the help beyond perhaps a free course in money management.

I’m in pretty good shape all things considered and I know there are a lot of people a lot worse off than I am when it comes to money. Still, I’d be lying if the thought hadn’t crossed my mind about setting up a site to help raise funds for a house. Just can’t get around the fact that it doesn’t feel like the right thing to do. I blame my parents for giving me scruples. wink

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Kitty United States Posted on 09/28/2002 at 01:24 PM

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Have you seen DELETED?

Morty is hilarious and SEXY!

Forget about Karyn, I owe $30,000 on a Nordstrom charge card, you don’t see me begging for money on the internet.  Morty on the other hand is cool, funny, confident, and SEXY!

Purring,
Kitty

Jessica United States Posted on 09/28/2002 at 04:55 PM

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My fav is DELETED.com

There’s a CEO who wants to move his factory to Mexico and he wants to raise $1,000,000 because his employees are trying to form a union! It’s hilarious!

T United States Posted on 10/04/2002 at 03:47 PM

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Asking for money is not a bad thing, but why not give to someone who REALLY deserves and needs it!  My favorite is (DELETED) I have donated $25 to her.

Lil Red United States Posted on 10/07/2002 at 03:23 PM

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I cant believe that people are actually sending her money.  I read somewhere that shes a TV executive, or something like that!  She goes crazy shopping and then expects others to bail her out. But I gotta give her credit, its a pretty original idea.  Shes got guts to come up with a site like that.  Hey, have any of you been to http://www.diabetes.org/main/application/commercewf? Its a similar concept, but at least this girl is a struggling actor, and shes also asking for work, not just for a handout. Oh man, if you go on it, click on the Destiny Diaries- shes pretty funny.

Jennifer United States Posted on 10/14/2002 at 12:27 PM

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A new site in the tradition of Save Karyn has been online for about two weeks.  It’s about a small family that wants to get out of debt and dedicate more time to family life.  Pay a visit at DELETED

Heather United States Posted on 10/18/2002 at 12:51 AM

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I wish I could say I was screwed because of buying expensive crap from Macy’s or Bloomingdales. I’ve never even been in those stores. I shop at ROSS and PAYLESS SHOE SOURCE (when I have extra money.) Yes, I have bought clothes and taken them back to get the money. I have worn the shoes once to an interview and then took them back. HELL I EVEN TELL THE PEOPLE AT BURGERKING THAT THEY MESSED UP JUST SO I CAN EAT.
I ask for one dollar. Nothing more nothing less...and I have received help from REALLY nice people. Karyn, Karen, Care Inn is a complete ass. $600.00 dollars for a purse when I need to collect cans and ride my bike to my doctor’s appointments.
If you hate Careless Karyn as much as I do...send ME a dollar! DELETED
God bless!
Heather xo

Kiiri United States Posted on 10/18/2002 at 06:38 AM

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Mmmmm.. wow, I had lost track of the comments on this post.

Is it my imagination, or are there suddenly quite a lot of people asking for help in this medium? I suppose the way it affects me is all in the asking. Having an option on your site to help out, while your site offers content other than just “pay my bills for me!” stuff is fine. This setting up a site just to pan-handle for money is rubbing me the wrong way. I’d like to know how these folks can afford a domain and hosting package, as well as the computers they are using, if things are that tight. *shrugs*

Les United States Posted on 10/18/2002 at 11:43 AM

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I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed how this very entry, which was critical of this concept, seems to have become a clearing house for people advertising similar sites. Do these people not see the irony in responding to a post where I basically advocated shunning people who beg on the net with a promotional speech about a new site they’re using to beg on the net? How did my site suddenly become the place to advertise this stuff?

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Kiiri United States Posted on 10/18/2002 at 12:25 PM

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*grins* I for one did not miss the irony.  It seems to me that lots of these folks don’t need help paying bills - they need help prioritizing what’s important. Because investing in hosting, domain names, and a computer to beg money to pay bills is.... ass-backward. smile

kat United States Posted on 10/19/2002 at 05:24 AM

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whates even funnier is people are still coming to my site looking for my post on her probably hoping to advertise there too...lol all my archives have moved to a new server and the comment function from old posts is buh bye...lmao

Chris United States Posted on 10/20/2002 at 09:15 AM

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did you see the DELETED website though? atleast she has more with than all the other losers out there. i might send a buck then again i might have to take a nap. priorities lol

Chris United States Posted on 10/23/2002 at 04:06 AM

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DELETED kicks ass. check out her FAQ page LOL!!!!
I meant WIT—I said With. Oh hell, nevermind

dawn United States Posted on 10/25/2002 at 03:26 AM

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if you want to really help someone else visit my web page.

Les United States Posted on 10/25/2002 at 06:21 AM

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Man, this is getting out of hand. I don’t mean to be cruel, but perhaps I should spell it out a little more clearly: I didn’t put this post in to become a clearing house for every person with their hand out looking for money from strangers. I’m sure you all have really sad stories and could really use the money and that’s great, but stop using my site to advertise it. The whole point of this entry was that I disapprove of electronic pan-handling. So, please, no more “IF you think THAT’S sad, come visit MY page and give your money to ME” type posts OK?

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NYCMom United States Posted on 10/25/2002 at 09:49 PM

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My favorite site is DELETED I’m sorry but I just can’t get passionate about helping Karyn pay of a material selfish debt.  Elaine has true talent and is even a teacher… and we all know how little teachers make.  She is an aspiring Opera singer.  I donated - so should you! smile

Dave United States Posted on 10/25/2002 at 10:03 PM

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Awww poor Les is frustrated.  Suck it up.

Les United States Posted on 10/26/2002 at 10:14 AM

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Gee “Dave” seeing as how both the post from NYCMom and yourself originate from the same IP address I guess that says all there is to say about how “honest” these folks begging for money are. You think you’ve been clever by changing the name you’re posting under and putting in false email addresses, but the IP address doesn’t lie.

It’s pathetic how quickly people will jump on an idea that manipulates other’s sense of goodwill for their own profit. You’re just another asshole trying to make a quick buck off of someone’s sympathy. Take note that I will be deleting ALL posts that reference these stupid give-me-money websites from now on and altering the URLs so that they point to legitimate charities that could use the help. Might as well stop posting this shit now because it won’t be getting you any more traffic from this site.

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All I know is my steak tastes better when I take my steak tastes better pill
-- I Feel Fantastic, Jonathan Coulton

NYCMom United States Posted on 10/29/2002 at 04:52 PM

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You caught me Les!  You’re sure clever!  Dave is my husband = same computer ! smile

http://www.cancer.org/

Kiiri United States Posted on 10/29/2002 at 05:54 PM

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Okay enough already. People, stop with the copycat “help me, pay for my life” sites. Please. For crying out loud. If you have a legitimate financial problem, there are services to assist you. Spamming the web at large, and Les in particular, ain’t one of the services. Okaaaaaaaaaaaay? Knock it off, for real. Sheeesh.

Les United States Posted on 10/29/2002 at 07:04 PM

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Oh look! Another URL to change.

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