Got my first email from a Flat Earther.

Posted by Les on Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 08:14 AM. Read 1866 times. Tags: , ,
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I’ve been running SEB for almost five years now and it amazes me that this is the first time I’ve ever gotten an email from someone who appears to be a Flat Earther. I suppose it’s entirely possible this person is pulling my leg, but… well, you decide for yourself:

Dear Les

After reading your website (stupidevilbastard.com), i found myself wanting to comment on your twisted worldview.

I have the greatest respect for you as a person, and i understand you been indoctrinated from childhood to believe in Evolution, Big Bang and we are alla Bananas, not to mention the world being “a sphere”, so i thought i would correct your understanding on one of the most important points in your physical life:

Our Holy Bible, which shows us the way of Christ, gives us a moral code to prevent us killing eachother (look at Communism), but it also explains the world. It explains in several passages that our world is flat, so how come people seriously, TODAY, believe its a sphere? Lets look a some fact about this:

If the world was round: We would fall off !

This is no Starwars, there is no magical “force” that keep us here, as told in Evolution. Our God made it right the first time, and made the world flat, so we would not fall off. Its terrible to hear this ignorant statements from Evolutionists/Communists/Humanists, and even from some Christians, that the “world is round”.

Dont you hear how silly it sounds?

Wow. I’m convinced. Hard to refute logic like that.

What the fuck are “alla Bananas”?

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Kit United States Posted on 08/17/2006 at 09:20 PM

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What is this “Our” and “Us” shit?

Moloch United States Posted on 08/17/2006 at 09:43 PM

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alla Bananas

Didn’t Grover use a phrase like that on Sesame Street when was pretending to be a magician?

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ingolfson New Zealand (Aotearoa) Posted on 08/18/2006 at 02:22 AM

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Flat Earther’s actually exist? Man, I thought they were like leprechauns…

Well, you can’t see them because the are on the OTHER side.

Oh, damn, they ARE like leprechauns!

alla Bananas

He’s talking about the blasphemous holy bananas our early evolution-whorshipping ape ancestors bowed down to.

And speaking of Hitler, wasn’t he alleged to have been a flat-Earth believer himself?

Not aware so. Unlikely in the strict sense. He was willing to at least indirectly fund research into some pretty fancy theories though, especially in the Hollow Earth and Shangri-La directions.

The space program is all just a colossal conspiracy perpetrated by Hitler and Elvis, neither of whom ever actually died.

So? And why do YOU think they ‘lost’ the Apollo ‘moon landing’ movies? Dunce!

Tish Australia Posted on 08/18/2006 at 03:15 AM

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What the fuck are “alla Bananas�?

A misspelling of “Allah Bananas,� which are mystical, vampiric bananas supposedly brought to life by God to hunt down and slay the wicked. They hide among normal bananas until some hapless heathen takes a bunch home, then attack as the heathen is reaching for his breakfast. God’s clever way of weeding out nonbelievers who like fruit.

Uh-oh, they’ve already taken over our kiddies!

I think it was Patrick Moore (host of the UK astronomy series, The Sky At Night) who took his Flat-Earther mail and sent it on to his Hollow-Earth correspondants, letting them argue back and forth!

moses United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 03:21 AM

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I just had a really bizarre thought! If this guy thinks the Earth is flat, he must also think that he - no wait - the earth, is the center of the universe. Next we will all go back to living in caves and eating nuts and berries so as not to piss off God!

Bob United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 06:00 AM

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What the fuck are “alla Bananas�?

I think he was refering to the apes giving birth to humans thing.

Flat Earther’s actually exist? Man, I thought they were like leprechauns…

Exactly what are you trying to imply about leprechauns?

How does a flat earther explain images of the Earth taken from space?

Duh. The same way you explain images of Billy-Bob Thorton walking on an asteroid. I mean, I’m pretty sure the world is round, but I don’t blindly trust photographs.

Les United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 07:02 AM

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Suddenly I’m thankful I don’t care for eating bananas. Never realized what a risk they were. wink

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 08:41 AM

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Moses - Yeah, I looked at some “legitimate” Flat Earth stuff awhile back, and it’s really bizarre.  Basically it takes a literal interpretation of Old Testament descriptions of the cosmos, so it ends up the earth is a flat disk, with the vault of the heavens over it and enclosing it at the edges like a big dome.  The stars are just lamps placed in the walls of the “vault” and the sun and moon move around the disc in a pattern that makes us see them as rising and setting (since the disc is so big, we get the effect of not seeing either of them when they are a sufficient distance away from us on their orbit).  The space between the dome and earth is filled with the atmosphere, they have an exact distance between the two, and the moon and sun are really small.  Above the dome is the water of the heavens, and the dome opens up to let rain through (ok, that last part they don’t claim (I didn’t see that), but I do believe that was ancient Hebrew cosmology).  Heaven is located above the water, and hell is located in the depths of the ground beneath the disc.  There is no solar system, galaxies, etc. so there is no chance of life outside of earth, according to them, it’s all just a contained system, kinda like god’s really big ant farm.

Of course, this brings up tons of logical and physics quandries, especially considering they believe the disc is...flat. 

I heard that the last guy pushing this stuff ended up moving out into the California desert and building a house to live off the grid.  This was back in the late 70’s early 80’s though, so I don’t know what happened to him.

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 09:07 AM

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In case anyone want’s to see it, here is the link to a paper on the Flat Earth guy I mentioned above:

The Flat-out Truth.

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 09:11 AM

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And sorry about the triple dipping (is that even physically possible?) but I found a Flat-Earth discussion forum here: Flat Earth Forum, but I confess I haven’t really looked at it yet.

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JacksSmirkingRevenge Canada Posted on 08/18/2006 at 09:14 AM

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Has anyone read the membership form on the Flat Earther website?  Amoung other things they would like to know what your Favorite Radioactive Isotope is.  Not to mention a multiple choice question asking who your favorite historical figure is; Rasputin, Napoleon Bonaparte, Tony Blair, or Attila The Hun.

Now, where’s me pot of gold!?

Les United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 09:16 AM

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All praise Wikipedia! Which has more than what you need to know about both Flat Earth belief and the Flat Earth Society, which is the last official organization to promote the belief seriously in the 20th Century. The last president of the society, Charles K. Johnson, died in 2001 and the current status of the group is unknown. The Wikipedia article also mentions the Flat Earth Forum, but is unsure on whether it’s serious or not.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 09:17 AM

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And sorry about the triple dipping (is that even physically possible?)

Maybe.  Have you been ordering those little blue pills off the InterWeb?  tongue wink

Bog Brother United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 09:27 AM

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Heh, I haven’t yet needed the little blue pills, but I see what you mean. 

As for the Flat Earth Forums Les, As I peruse them, I honestly can’t say I can tell if it’s a gag site that some people are falling for, or if it’s a real site.  There appears to be some true believers falling for it big time if it is a gag (which is absolutely no suprise).

They do link to some really crazy scientific experiments that supposedly prove their theory (by proving the earth’s surface is not curved over a short, 5 mile distance...the diagrams of the experiments are hilarious).

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I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men.

-Robert G. Ingersoll

moses United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 10:10 AM

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I heard that the last guy pushing this stuff ended up moving out into the California desert and building a house to live off the grid.  This was back in the late 70’s early 80’s though, so I don’t know what happened to him.

Aliens got him! What else?

Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 08/18/2006 at 03:41 PM

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Charles K. Johnson was interviewed a few years before his death, and he was the nastiest sort of fundementalist Christian.  The sad thing was he and his wife lived in absolute poverty after their house burned down.  Think I linked through TalkOrigins about a year back. 

If Les’s little freind is serious then there is no way to convince him- anything he is shown will be CGI/fake etc.

The Bananas thing is a evolution thing- common ancestry etc- those nasty evilutionists say we all came from Bananas- the monket thing one step further.  Terry Pratchett spoofed this at one point with Ponder Stibbons telling the Archchancellor ‘I’ve proved that banans are a kind of fish, and the bunches are just shoals’

(PTerry- if you read this and say ‘No I didn’t’ Sorry!- may have been knocking around at the back of your mind though)

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 05:59 PM

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Oh my god, I can’t beleive I forgot about the absolute best Flat Earth Model Ever - Discworld!

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 08/18/2006 at 06:09 PM

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TAFKA- you went one Turtle further. You Swine.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 08/18/2006 at 06:35 PM

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And sorry about the triple dipping (is that even physically possible?) but I found a Flat-Earth discussion forum here: Flat Earth Forum, but I confess I haven’t really looked at it yet.

I think FES is a form of FSM. I don’t think they believe.

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Bog Brother United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 07:31 PM

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What are you saying?!?!  The FSM isn’t real!  But He Touched Me With His Noodly Appendage!  I myself recieved candy from a Pirate as a child!  I have seen the midget and the trees and the mountain!  It must be true!

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-Robert G. Ingersoll

Weapon of Mass Disturbance United States Posted on 08/18/2006 at 07:50 PM

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I saw a CNN report on the Flat Earth Society about 20 years ago.  At the time, they bosted 8000 members worldwide and attempted to prove that the Earth was flat by using surveying equipment on a dry lake bed.

And I’d swear that Hitler and Elvis were lurking in the background somewhere.

Shaye United States Posted on 08/19/2006 at 01:11 PM

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I think he means à la, like à la mode, or in the manner of “akin to” or “like.”

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