I was atheist before reading this post, now I believe there is a god. I am allergic to shrimp, if I eat it, my throat closes up tighter than a snare drum. So, God must exist if it’s in the bible that he hates shrimp.

Shrimp must be like kryptonite for God, which explains why it can hurt me. I am not under God’s protection when I eat shrimp!! It ALL makes sense now.

In fact, maybe I’ll even become an alter boy, does anyone know where I can get a pair of leather chaps?

Certainly a lot of Christians do that sort of picking-and-choosing of the stuff that supports what they believe and/or feel.  Actually, I strongly suspect it’s a human trait in general, but the selective quotation and adherence to *some* bits of OT Law while ignoring or dismissing others is a good example.  (For that matter, picking and choosing what bits from Paul to listen to falls into that category as well.)

As always ***Dave, you’re correct that the tendency to pick and choose is not limited to Christians, but is a pretty general trait of being human. I suppose I should change my wording to say that it seems at times that it’s especially commonplace among the true believers, though hardly limited to them.

All I can say is that I’m glad there are many Christians similar to yourself out there helping to off-set the more fundamentalist-minded believers. Based on my understanding of the Bible you’re of the group that I would call a “true Christian” as opposed to the folks who regularly claim that title for themselves. JethricOne who shows up here from time to time is another.

OK, I’m done giving out gushy praise for others for the day.

Um, you asked for it…

I am surprised that you would make a statement like this. You claim to be familiar with the teachings of the Bible, and this is a relatively elementary one. The NT does “overrule” the OT, but only in the sense that there is an old and a new covenant. In Jeremiah (OT), it is written:

(31:31) “The time is coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. (31:32) It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.

Then when the time prophesied there came about, it is written in Matthew (NT):

(5:17) “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (5:18) I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”

So that later, Paul wrote in Colossians:

(2:16) Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. (2:17) These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

Although, I picked these particular verses because they provided the quickest synopsis of the topic. A full study would produce the same result. If I could fulfill the requirements of the law, it’s clear that’d be best, but since I cannot – in fact no one could except Jesus, I’ve been provided an easier way, a new covenant through Him.

The law of Moses which is partially quoted in your link does say I should not eat shrimp (and a whole host of other foods).  But I am free from the law because God is merciful and sent Jesus to fulfill what I could not. As you can see, the prophets of the OT knew the time would come when the law would be fulfilled, replaced if you prefer, superceded might be a better word. It’s not a matter of picking and choosing.

As for the 10 commandments, Jesus “superceded” those too, but by way of expounding on their foundations. This, I think is even a clearer understanding of the old versus the new covenant.  The new undertakes to follow the spirit of the law, the old seeks to follow the letter of the law, but the law is still the law.

The quote from Jerimiah continues:

(31:33) “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”

So it follows that in Matthew, when Jesus was questioned about this very topic, it is written:

(22:36) “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
(22:37) Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ (22:38) This is the first and greatest commandment. (22:39) And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ (22:40) All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

If you can tell me how I’m “picking and choosing” here by finding contradictory scripture, I’m always happy to deepen my understanding. My guess is that you’ll try to say I believe in something that I don’t and then point out why I shouldn’t.

That’s a tactic that’s usually employed against me, not by me and not one I’ll be engaging in now. In fact, I will freely admit that you’ve done a most excellent job of outlining the best explanation I was ever given by my former Pastor on how the NT affects the OT. You’re the first to bring it up in a long time.

This outline, however, doesn’t address the fact that many Christians do appear to pick and choose which aspects of the OT they still consider relevant and then use the NT as an excuse to dismiss questions with regards to other passages that would appear to apply as well. I’m impressed, though, you’ve definitely done your studying.

Not only does god hate shrimp, he/she also hates figs, as was proven to me at the god hates figs website.

i actually thought shrimp had scales..those are fins at the end of the tail right???

speaking of abomination.....i noticed that hate shrimp site speaks of homosexuality as an abomination but if you look at the great scripture in proverbs 6:....

These six things the LORD hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.

Geez, sounds like a perfect description of a modern President!

jeff,,,it sounds like to me a perfect description also of a lot of people that think they are holier than others at times.  (unfortunately myself in times past)… i am just pointing out that people sometimes jump on the homosexual abomination thing quickly and forget there are other things too.

Shrimp is an abomination just like Betty Crocker is a battered woman. Does anyone wonder what would’ve happened if Wendell had dressed up as a giant shrimp when he saw “The Passion...”?

Mmmm...that site makes me want to go out and eat lots of shrimp! Pass the melted butter!! Yummm!

wow, its amazing how much energy people put into things like hating shrimp!  Do you really think the ALMIGHTY GOD is going to send you to hell for eating shrimp?  if your answer is yes, then im sorry for you.  Get on with your life and stop living in fear.  Will you fear everything until the day you die?  I garauntee the amount of energy you waste on hating shrimp is hazardous to your health.  this is the most rediculous thing ive ever heard of… baptists.. ha!  And if you notice, the website “godhatesshrimp.com” does not have a comment page, or any contact information.. you know why?  it would filled with comments like mine!

In other words, it would be filled with comments from clueless dumbfucks who can’t recognize a bit of satire when they see it.

No wonder they don’t have comments at that site.

I’ve looked at God hates fags, god hates sweeden, god hates canada, etcetera, and I can’t say that these read as any more satire than any of those.  Yet I understand that those that originiated with the God Hates Fags group, actually believe themselves to be right in what they are saying, and are not attempting to be satirical.  I just haven’t figured out how to tell the difference.  Other than to say ``hey is this satire’’?  Well I believe in the goals of God Hates Shrimp, and God Hates Figs.  I’m sure he hates a lot of other things that we simply forget about in the whole God Hates Fags debate.

Jessica

To use a quote from my favourite movie - Ninth confiquration. “What the fuck?”

Moses: “What the fuck?�

Having been pissed and or stoned a fair bit over the last 40 years I can say with some authourity that Jessica is pissed or stoned ... or quite possibly not real bright.

No wonder these christians are so irate, they cant eat anything that hasn’t been blessed with the local cardinal’s sperm.

To conclude this, I purpose a comedy/reality show:
Survive the christian Adkins diet!

If this show airs, I’ll be sitting on my lead ass eating shrimp, mussels, seaweed, clams, and dozens of other things, reveling in the suicidal and homicidial tendancies reflected in the path of the cross aired all over the world.

p.s.: if everything God made was good, why did me make shrimp if they’re an abomination?

Nice satire btw!!!

I just went back and re-read “God Hates Fags” after an absense of a couple of months. Damned if the first thing that came to mind wasn’t “What the Fuck?”

Serious Comment

David- read your explanation. Still don’t see how that allows Christians to eat pork.  He may have changed the emphasis on laws, but I can not find anything that says ignore, for instance, Leviticus.  Les I know you know your Bible, can you enlighten me?

Les as a Christian who eats what I believe is the healthy diet that God expects of us and am 49 yrs old and has never been sick in his life, I guess that says something. I eat meat daily with fruits and vegetables, and wow I eat shrimp about once every other week. Well now to the reason I wrote; true and knowledgeable Christians do not pick and choose what to change or accept from the OT Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law not do away with the Law we as Christians along with the Jewish community are to obey the old Testament Laws just as they were then as now, But now with Christ Jesus we have a Savior to fall back on when we fail.
Shrimp and Lobster are not evil in themselves, they are vary high in the bad Cholesterol so you can eat them but eat them with restraint for your health reasons that is why God banned them in the OT days because the Hebrew people had no way to heal the Health problems caused by eating a high cholesterol diet.
Once again I eat them and meat and have never been sick I also am told by my Doctor I have the insides and physique of a 20 yr old man amazing ( no just a good diet and healthy living according to mostly biblical teachings, not relying on the Mad ravings of some fanatical “ so called Christian Churches ) that break every Law that Jesus preached and taught. IE: Judgmentalim, personal condemnation of others, failing to obey basic ten commandment laws such as loving one another, I always tell those that have a need to preach to the public
that one: They turn more people away from Christ than anything else ( which for that they will have a big surprise ahead of them come Judgment day)
and two: Before you preach to me you better be perfect and since that is an impossibility then they need to get off the street and remove the boulder out of their ASS before they start preaching morality and doctrine.
Well I have rambled enough I have to ride to the Gym and work my back today, God Bless and have a great day.
Charlie
P.S. THIS SITE IS JUST TOO MUCH DUDE,I LOVE IT!
satire in its perfect form!

Moses Your A Hoot
that was my first thought when I found the site.
WHAT THE ****! LMAO
Charlie

P.S. THIS SITE IS JUST TOO MUCH DUDE,I LOVE IT!
satire in its perfect form!

Uh, huh. You do realize that we’re a bunch of atheists, right? That’s not satire.

It’s called the buffet style of bible thumping.

Les as a Christian who eats what I believe is the healthy diet that God expects of us and am 49 yrs old and has never been sick in his life, I guess that says something. I eat meat daily with fruits and vegetables, and wow I eat shrimp about once every other week. Well now to the reason I wrote; true and knowledgeable Christians do not pick and choose what to change or accept from the OT Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law not do away with the Law we as Christians along with the Jewish community are to obey the old Testament Laws just as they were then as now, But now with Christ Jesus we have a Savior to fall back on when we fail.
Shrimp and Lobster are not evil in themselves, they are vary high in the bad Cholesterol so you can eat them but eat them with restraint for your health reasons that is why God banned them in the OT days because the Hebrew people had no way to heal the Health problems caused by eating a high cholesterol diet.
Once again I eat them and meat and have never been sick I also am told by my Doctor I have the insides and physique of a 20 yr old man amazing ( no just a good diet and healthy living according to mostly biblical teachings, not relying on the Mad ravings of some fanatical “ so called Christian Churches ) that break every Law that Jesus preached and taught. IE: Judgmentalim, personal condemnation of others, failing to obey basic ten commandment laws such as loving one another, I always tell those that have a need to preach to the public
that one: They turn more people away from Christ than anything else ( which for that they will have a big surprise ahead of them come Judgment day)
and two: Before you preach to me you better be perfect and since that is an impossibility then they need to get off the street and remove the boulder out of their ASS before they start preaching morality and doctrine.
Well I have rambled enough I have to ride to the Gym and work my back today, God Bless and have a great day.

I’m sorry, but Born Again Christians pick and choose what they want out of the bible all the time.  I am a bastard child, and I had the bible quoted at me more times than I can count growing up.  Amazingly, nobody looked at John 8, John 3:16, Romans 10:13, etc. when they were telling me how I was going to hell because my mother was a harlot (truth hurts).  The nastiest, rudest and most judgmental people I have known were born again Christians...the only ones who were worse were born again Mormons.