Contemplating my status as a sex object.

Posted by Les on Monday, February 12, 2007 at 02:06 PM. Read 935 times. Tags: ,
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So the other day I’m sitting here parsing through SEB’s referrer logs to see who is dropping by the site and weed out spammers when I come across a link to a MySpace page, that I’ve since lost the link to, where a lady has linked back to SEB. The entry itself is a meme that’s going around right now about the bloggers you read with questions like “which blogger makes you laugh” and “which blogger touches your heart.” I was surprised to see that I was her pick for the question: Which blogger would you most like to have sex with? It seems she reads the site regularly and finds my evil bastardness — she doesn’t consider me stupid — to be a very sexy thing.

So I came back to SEB and I took another look at my picture on the front page and many of the other goofy pictures of myself that I’ve put up on SEB over the years and I thought to myself: She’s obviously reading the site through a feed reader and hasn’t actually seen me. I admit that I think that I’m a devilishly handsome guy, but I also admit that I’m probably the only person outside of my wife who thinks that. Not to mention the fact that I’m overweight and about to hit 40 years old this year. An event that has been on my mind quite a bit lately. Now when I was much younger I was a reasonably good looking fellow who managed to have more than his fair share of attention from people of the opposite gender despite never being the sort of person who turned heads when he walked in the room. These days I’ve grown accustomed to the fact that I’m noticed more for my scary beard than for my stunningly rugged good looks and it doesn’t really bother me. I’m happily married and Anne seems to like what she’s bought into so I don’t tend to spend a lot of time contemplating how the opposite gender views me. Which is why it was a surprise to see someone pick me as someone they’d most like to have sex with despite not really knowing me. Needless to say it was quite flattering, if somewhat puzzling at the same time, and it gave me pause to sit and take a new look at myself.

It used to be that as long as I was in my thirties I could still pretend to be a young guy and that was helped by older people telling me “you’re still just a kid” whenever I mentioned my age, but as the big four-oh approaches I no longer feel like I can play that game anymore. Last Saturday I was sitting in the car outside the library where Courtney works waiting to pick her up when she got off for the night and the setting sun was at that one perfect spot in the sky where it casts a warm glow across the landscape and everything in it. I happened to catch my reflection in the rear view mirror and that golden light was perfectly illuminating all the little micro-wrinkles that are starting to form on my face revealing to me that full-blown wrinkles aren’t very far off in my future. The results of a youth spent outdoors in the sun too much without any sunscreen on.

Oddly enough the sudden realization that the wrinkles were already there and just too small to see in normal light didn’t really upset me. I found the idea that I had these mini-wrinkles kind of appealing in a strange way. Made me feel more like a real adult than I usually do. That moment in time combined with stumbling across the female fan who thinks I’m sexy gave me a new perspective to look at myself from which was helpful as I’ve been struggling with a mild bout of depression lately over my continued unemployment. More of a funk I suppose, but this was still enough of a lift to make me feel better about myself for awhile. So a bit of thanks to the lady who finds me sexy for reminding me that there are things about me that others can find attractive.

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Patness Canada Posted on 02/13/2007 at 04:31 PM

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This is a mantra of femininity

Too true. The need for “nice guys” is a half truth, and “nice guys” tend to come bundled with their own problems in adapting.

Pure speculation coming: I figure that women want guys who have dominant personalities as part of a natural imperative - some sort of leftover from the hunter-gatherer days. I know a lot of really nice guys - but their tendency to be passive or submissive stops them from getting the attention of others. Aggression is normative. I repeat - aggression is normative. I do not know an aggressive person who is without a date. That may not be the experiences of others.

Yes, women want nice guys who indulge them, who tend to their emotions, who… whatever. That fits in with current social paradigms. But they want that at a different time (and for different reasons) than they want an aggressive man-ape as a provider of some things.

I’ve said this before, but I believe people naturally desire primarily and almost exclusively those who will play to their sympathies. The difference is, the aggressor tries to take what he wants, and those who are willing, accept. “Nice guys” make the biggest mistake - they don’t gather people, and they should. There are far more problems that I don’t have the time or the patience to outline, as having been a “nice guy” I am intimately familiar with the relationship problems that led my down a path of loneliness and abandon.

If being a “nice guy” were a requisite, I would not be friends with women who refuse to detach from abusive assholes, and I’ve been friends with several.

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Bahamat Great Britain (UK) Posted on 02/13/2007 at 04:48 PM

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I read somewhere that how nice a person is isn’t factored much into the decision of who to date, more how they feel, so shallow charming is often the trick of jerks. Jerks also give women a negative perception of anyone who isn’t a jerk - and make them afraid of nice people as being creepy, boring, wierd, etc. The women will fall for it if they blindly love the jerk and if they hear it echoed in society (being sociable creatures), and young love is often blind so things are buggered up early on. Jerks are also succesful in their jobs because they are objective about what they want, don’t want to end up as one of the ‘losers’ they label others and put more of their energy into career than self-restraint, also they barter for what they want, which can force employers into uncomfortable corners, and if the employer themselves is a jerk, like attracts like. There is the saying “the scum floats to the top”, I have to admit, the minimum wage job I do at the moment has some of the nicest people, the only thing bad about the job is the pay.

Feminism is a powerful thing because men realise that if they are to date these women, as society and hormones pressures them to date someone, they have to comply, a kind of charming in a different way. Unfortunately this, and jerk beliefs, sink into subconcious actual belief and sometimes men regard women as superior to the other men they know and will discriminate. The nicer women that I know, like non-jerk men, believe in equality, and that neither gender should dominate the other. Discrimination can only exist when first somebody forms a prejudice, and some prejudices, like skin colour, are downright unfair because nobody can choose that.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 02/13/2007 at 04:49 PM

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Patness: I figure that women want guys who have dominant personalities as part of a natural imperative - some sort of leftover from the hunter-gatherer days. I know a lot of really nice guys - but their tendency to be passive or submissive stops them from getting the attention of others.

I think this is what society implicitly demands of women, but I don’t know if most women genuinely prefer a dominant man. Many do, of course, but I know that in my case that type turns me off faster than a bad case of genital warts. Come to think of it, I’ve never been interested in excessively “manly” men, I’ve never had fantasies of a guy sweeping me over his shoulder and carrying me off into the sunset, I’ve never been into really athletic or muscular guys, and so on. If you’re slender, sensitive, artistic, kind, and open-minded, I’ll give you a look. And you’ve got to have a sense of humor--serious people depress me.

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Bahamat Great Britain (UK) Posted on 02/13/2007 at 05:02 PM

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SS: And you’ve got to have a sense of humor--serious people depress me.

One thing I’ve noticed is women seem to put a lot of emphasis on life being happy, for themselves and close people. They also put pressure upon themselves to be happy, and that adds to the distress when something goes wrong.

If you’re too happy you don’t think the same way and so aren’t the under pressure to become kind, I believe people come out nicer and less conflicting after the serious thinking from being unhappy, and that might be why the generally less successful of both genders becomes nicer. I think it’s impossible to have a perfectly happy world because some people would remain asshats.

The men who do want love and deep relationship, generally like kind women, nice men don’t like conflict.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 02/13/2007 at 06:38 PM

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MM: I put up with an awful lot from them because they ... provide free beer ...

Yeah, I agree; there’s no carrot quite like free beer.
It has the ability to cancel out a fair amount of jerk and wanker.  wink

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Consigliere United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 01:42 PM

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Participating in thread drift:

Patness: I figure that women want guys who have dominant personalities…

Sadie: I think this is what society implicitly demands of women, but I don’t know if most women genuinely prefer a dominant man

Yeah, I’m fairly skeptical of this.  Dominant personalities, as a general rule, tend to be both outwardly and inwardly more self-confident.  A lack of self-confidence correlates negatively with career success.  As a result, it follows that the more dominant personalities rise to the tops of organizations more often and have more money and more toys. 

Women and men are no different than little kids.  Almost everybody wants to play at the kids house who has the coolest and most toys.  It’s pretty simple.

LJ: Yeah, I agree; there’s no carrot quite like free beer.

Except sex.

I’ve never been into really athletic or muscular guys

Bummer.  long face

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 02:29 PM

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Well, allow me to clarify: athleticism in and of itself is fine, but no overgrown jocks. There’s a guy I know who, at age thirty-two, fits this description to a T. It wasn’t attractive fifteen years ago and it’s certainly not attractive on him now.  shut eye

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 02/14/2007 at 05:36 PM

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Consi: Except sex.

Nah. At my age a beer lasts much longer and then I have to piss which, these days, is also better than sex … and lasts longer.  wink

Sadie: fifteen years ago

Twenty five years ago, you were five and I was 7 times your age; twenty years ago you were ten and I was 4 times your age; fifteen years ago you were fifteen and I was 3 times your age; now I’m only twice your age ... I have no idea where this observation is going but thanks for bringing the Orange Hippy Chick back ... from a time well before you were contemplated. LOL
There you stood
on the edge of your feather,
Expecting to fly.
While I laughed,
I wondered whether
I could wave goodbye,
Knowin’ that you’d gone.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 02/14/2007 at 06:07 PM

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Consi: 

I’ve never been into really athletic or muscular guys

Bummer.

Is Consi admitting to being Mr Gay USA? This sounds the sort of person a Gay pin up is.

LJ:  Twenty five years ago, you were five and I was 7 times your age; twenty years ago you were ten and I was 4 times your age; fifteen years ago you were fifteen and I was 3 times your age; now I’m only twice your age

You’re obviously playing the long game with Sadie- wait long enough, the relative age difference is minute.  Course by that time the only woman in your pants will be the nurse changing your nappy.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 06:31 PM

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I’m glad you are pleased with OHC’s return, John. And yeah, I’m a Buffalo Springfield fan.  smile

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 07:10 PM

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Sadie:If you’re slender, sensitive, artistic, kind, and open-minded, I’ll give you a look. And you’ve got to have a sense of humor--serious people depress me.

Damn, knocked out right from the start. At 5’11, I should probably be a bit under my 240lbs.

Well, allow me to clarify: athleticism in and of itself is fine, but no overgrown jocks.

LOL I’ve never been accused of being a jock, even back in the days when I played baseball (I was a catcher for a couple of years). Of course, that was all many years ago, I’m just a tad behind less, turning 39 this year.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 07:23 PM

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Awww, KPG, I was just describing my ideal pin-up. It’s true that my boyfriend pretty much matches that description perfectly, but anyone’s winning personality can easily compensate for a lack of physical resemblance to George Harrison or Bob Dylan.  cheese

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 07:38 PM

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Happy , Sadie.

I hope you and John make the most of it. (His name is John, isn’t it? My memory is acting up today.)

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 07:41 PM

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Yep, he’s my Johnny, and we’re going into San Fran to my favorite Chinese restaurant.  cheese

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 07:43 PM

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Oh, and happy St. Valentine’s Day to all of you!  wink

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MisterMook United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 08:35 PM

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I’m still waiting for a rich ex-porn actress to notice me and take me away from all this and marry me to help her manage her liquor store.

Patness Canada Posted on 02/14/2007 at 09:28 PM

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*shrug* Thanks, Sadie. My girlfriend’s in NZ, while I’m stuck here studying for midterms. She thinks it’s a dumb holiday, though, and I agree. We’ll get all the valentine we need when she’s back.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 10:15 PM

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I’m 5-11, 220, love-handles but a bit more muscular than most guys my age (only middle-aged if I plan to live to 100), can run up 3 flights of stairs without getting winded, but not 4 flights.  And my hair-color is “bald” but MrsDoF manages to put up with me.  If personality matters that makes her affections even more of a mystery.

Consigliere United States Posted on 02/14/2007 at 11:42 PM

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At my age a beer lasts much longer and then I have to piss which, these days, is also better than sex … and lasts longer.

A less than a minute man. Bummer.  Glad I’m not you. smile

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Frumpa Australia Posted on 02/15/2007 at 06:52 AM

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It must be the way you handle that orange Sadie wink

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