Conservative Christians shut down Normal Bob Smith’s website.

Posted by Les on Friday, April 02, 2004 at 01:58 PM. Read 6275 times. Tags:
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Obnoxious Bitch, who is the person that first brought Normal Bob Smith to my attention, told me about this the other day and I’ve been waiting to get some detail on the story before I wrote anything about it.

For those who don’t already know about Normal Bob Smith, he runs a religious satire website of the same name on which he appears dressed in traditional devil garb and pokes fun at Christianity in general. Awhile back I wrote about an atheist who dressed up as Satan and went to see the Jesus Chainsaw Massacre which turned out to be completely fictional, but then Normal Bob Smith turned around and did just that. It made for some amusing reading to say the least. The thing NBS is probably most famous for at this point, however, is probably his Jesus Dress-up magnets he’s been selling for awhile now that ended up getting the Urban Outfitters chain into hot water with Christians recently. Now it seems a conservative Christian group called LaptopLobbyist.com have managed to get his website yanked off the net after faxing letters of complaint to the parent company of his webhost:

Web users no longer can dress up Jesus - The Washington Times: Business

Members of LaptopLobbyist.com, which describes itself as “America’s first and foremost online conservative community,” sent thousands of faxes denouncing the “Jesus Dress Up” site, according to Chris Carmouche, executive director of LaptopLobbyist.com.
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Mr. Carmouche said his organization’s members sent faxes denouncing the Jesus Dress Up site and magnets to the corporate parent of the site’s host, as well as to the chief executive at trendy retailer Urban Outfitters Inc., which sells the magnets.

Charles Wheelus, president of Pick Internet Solutions Inc., the Boca Raton, Fla., parent company of the business that hosted the Jesus Dress Up site, said he was unaware that such content existed on his network until LaptopLobbyist.com notified him.

“I am as appalled as you. I find the content of these sites to be obscene and offending,” Mr. Wheelus wrote in a letter to LaptopLobbyist.com.

The assholes at LaptopLobbyist.com couldn’t be happier about it crowing loudly about how Normal Bob Smith’s site supposedly “violates the Acceptable Use Policies (AUPs) and Terms of Service (TOS) of the vast majority of Internet Service Providers.” It’s not a surprising tactic for such a group to take, however, as it’s always easier to silence the opposition than it is to prove your viewpoint is superior. In the past various fundamentalist minded Christians achieved this goal through torture and murder, but those methods are frowned upon in this day and age so they have to rely on less permanent methods now. This is good news for fans of Normal Bob Smith as it means he’ll eventually be back.

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Disillusioned United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 03:17 PM

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It never ceases to amaze me at how against freedom of speech and expression these so-called Christians are. How hard can it be to click the fucking ‘Back’ button on a browser, turn the dial on the radio, or change the channel on the TV if something offends your senses?

I’m not sure what grates on my nerves more: the existence of these people, or that they actually get away with censoring people who don’t carry their own myopic views.

Grrr.

tekwh0re United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 03:43 PM

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You are FUCKING kidding me!

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 03:49 PM

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Don’t get upset, have the site hosted in the Middle East for maximal shock value.

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*** Dave United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 04:03 PM

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As if the most obscene (in any sense) thing they could find out there to protest and take action about was “Dress-Up Jesus”?  Yeesh.  Are there no sick to care for, no hungry to feed?

mac United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 06:06 PM

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Every day it’s something new and abysmal.  Can’t we just ship all these asses elsewhere and let them fight it out amongst themselves?

nowiser United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 06:47 PM

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In the past various fundamentalist minded Christians achieved this goal through torture and murder, but those methods are frowned upon in this day and age so they have to rely on less permanent methods now. . .

I beg to differ.  Some methods -never- go out of style.

nowiser United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 07:00 PM

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No, really, some methods -never- go out of style

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VernR United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 07:42 PM

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UFB!

deadscot United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 07:47 PM

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Robert Hain, the distributor of the Dress Up Jesus magnets has accused Laptoplobbyist.com of taking down his website.

Laptoplobbyist.com Executive Director, Christopher Carmouche claims that nothing could be further from the truth. 

“News is already circulating throughout the conservative community that we’ve won a victory.”

“Urban Outfitters would not be re-ordering the item but that they will continue to sell the inventory (Dress up Jesus) on hand.  This is NO VICTORY!”

- LaptopLobbyist.com

Hmmm.  Maybe they should get those laptops on a peer-to-peer network and just IM each other to death.

nowiser United States Posted on 04/02/2004 at 07:49 PM

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Damnit!  I didn’t even realize it, but my first post didn’t even have the link I wanted to attach.

http://www.beholder.com/the_story.htm

did United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 08:34 AM

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If only the rapture would occur soon, so we could be rid of these dipshits and get on with the businesses of reality. Plus I need a new car.

did

neil United Kingdom Posted on 04/03/2004 at 10:50 AM

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Hi
What is it about the believes of these people that is so threatened by this guy.
If their system is so fragile that NBS can undermine it with humorous magnets,what will happen when they are exposed to the humourless but robust propaganda of rival believers like Islam.
As in many things the best thing (for them)they could have done is ignore NBS.Not stoke the fires with the “oxygen of publicity”
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TB United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 12:30 PM

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Has anyone thought to raise funds to help NBS purchase a webserver and some bandwidth so he doesn’t need a webhost?  I’d like to see them shut him down then.

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 12:53 PM

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It’s not all that straightforward. You will always depend on somebody else’s TOS - if only for network connectivity. If he wants to stay hosted in the US, he’ll have to shop around for a thick-skinned host. Or literally host offshore in a non-Christian country.

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kat United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 02:18 PM

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It’s still there and it still works. I just dressed up Jesus as the easter bunny.

Les United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 03:11 PM

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Correction, it’s back. Looks like Normal Bob managed to find a new host. It was down for a few days, but it’s back up and running now. Posts on the Normal Bob Smith Yahoo Group show that it came back online sometime yesterday.

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Brock United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 05:06 PM

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I don’t understand the fuss either. Christians can pretend to eat Jesus’ flesh and drink his blood or be thrilled with the image of him being tortured and dying on a cross, but they can’t accept someone else wanting to dress him up like a biker. Now if the site was about un-dressing Jesus, I could almost begin to understand the indignation. ALMOST.

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rob adams United States Posted on 04/03/2004 at 05:28 PM

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It’s high time we rounded up all these book-burner types.

.rob adams

Ragman United States Posted on 04/04/2004 at 10:44 AM

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After watching religious groups protest different things over the past couple decades, I’ve come to the conclusion that those who feel they must protest are just fucking idiots. 

Satanic panic of the 80’s (thanks for the leads on new bands for me to listen too!), “The Satanic Verses"(I almost bought it just b/c of the outrage), Harry Potter (Love those books!), etc, etc…

Some people apparently are too stupid to learn from history.  Maybe getting publicity over protests and book burnings does get a few people to go along with you… must be worth it even though they end up just making something more popular with many other people.

I don’t have a lot of respect for people like that b/c of the satanic panic.  Churches were handing out lists of bands that were “satanic”, going by group names for the most part.  My favorite of the handouts was the list of song lyrics that went around my town - I am a metalhead, and I had never HEARD of any of those bands!  Lyrics(and band names) were all “satany” though (even though it does appear on some Christian “devil music” lists online, they didn’t bother printing the lyrics to AC/DC’s “Hells Bells” in their lists.  How’s that for disrespect? wink ).  The Christians who came up with these handouts were so fucking STUPID that they didn’t have groups like King Diamond ANYWHERE on their lists.  King Diamond are self professed satanists.  I’ve actually seen some of their albums for sale at Wal-Mart. 

rob said…

It’s high time we rounded up all these book-burner types.

Everytime I see a bookburning, it makes my skin crawl.  Then I start thinking, “what if someone walked up and chunked some bibles on the bonfire?”, but, things would get a little ugly at that point…

kat United States Posted on 04/04/2004 at 12:08 PM

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It might get a little ugly but it sure would be fun to watch. ...lol

OB United States Posted on 04/04/2004 at 12:49 PM

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Can’t wait to see what the turnout’s like at the Urban Outfitters protest this afternoon.  It’ll definitely be interesting to see how much (or unsurprisingly LITTLE) press the protest will get.  The media will go out of their way to present stories of how Christians are being “persecuted” (without persecution, their whole gig sort of goes into the toilet - so how is it news?), yet their own persecution of anyone who thinks differently than they do is spun as “Americans standing up for decency.”

Thomas Jefferson is doing 360s in his grave.

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David United States Posted on 04/04/2004 at 10:42 PM

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I’m failing to see what you folks are all riled up about. Truly. This is the free market working like it’s supposed to. Some guy sells site space, someone posts stuff his consumers get upset over, and the guy yanks it. Let someone who doesn’t care what that group of consumer wants make his money off the site.  Big deal. If someone wants to burn books they bought, didn’t the author and publisher make the money they wanted to make? Who loses in these situations? If this stuff is really that popular, it’ll survive, and people willing to publish it will succeed while the folks that won’t will fail.

Someone up there mentioned back buttons and the ability to change channels, and I’m in almost total agreement. But often my kids are places where I can’t control what they might hear or see. Like on the school bus in the morning, where the driver can listen to any radio station he wants. So I do care about the content of some things. But sites that list themselves responsibly so that folks that want to can filter that stuff out, are cool with me (although I’ve noticed SEB shoots right past both filters I use though).

This is not killing people to advance your cause, this is using the free market in a fair way. I can’t believe that the same group of folks that would have a seizure if there was a minute of silence in their kids’ school so that some of the kids could pray if they want, can get bent out of shape when someone else uses their market muscle to remove content that they find offensive.

And how is it that it shouldn’t be a problem to insult a Christian by dressing up his god as an Easter bunny, but not OK to insult Jews by having a site that glorifies Hitler? I mean, I don’t think either is OK. But you can’t pick and chose who it’s OK to offend, and who not to offend.

As it is, I can’t believe Christian groups waste their time on this stuff. To me, it’s pointless in trying to get the unsaved to behave as if they are saved. If they don’t accept the same moral code, they aren’t ever going to try and live by it. So there is no point in protesting books, movies, websites or even abortions just because they are contra-Christian. Now if there is a reasonable secular case, it might be worth-wile (such as “late term” abortions). But I wish Christians would spend more time proselytizing and a lot less time protesting. The more Christians they bring into the fold, the less protesting they’d want or need to do. Besides, I don’t recall Jesus ever advocating protest. In fact it was only when there was dishonest taking place at the Temple that he ever got violent. He never treated a non-believer like they should behave like a believer. But he treated the dishonest at the temple violently, because they had claimed faith.

And Brock, your idea that Christians are cannibals is something only the Catholics believe in (Transubstantiation). I think you tried to pin eggs and bunnies as part of Christianity too on another thread. Isn’t Easter the holiday where when he comes out of the tomb, if he sees his shadow there’s 6 more weeks of winter? *sigh* Somewhere some early Christians really screwed the pooch by trying to co-opt other religious festivals.

GeekMom United States Posted on 04/04/2004 at 11:02 PM

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And how is it that it shouldn’t be a problem to insult a Christian by dressing up his god as an Easter bunny, but not OK to insult Jews by having a site that glorifies Hitler?

Easy, David.  The first one is just ridicule; the other is an implied threat by glorifying the man who made it his country’s mission to kill all of them.  Can you really not see the difference?

Protesting and boycotting are great American traditions.  I don’t see anything wrong with it in general.  But I think anyone who chooses a dress-up site to take offense at is just being too thin-skinned, and is taking themselves way too seriously.  Same with the people who originally protested Life of Brian. Think THAT’LL start up again with the re-release?

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/05/2004 at 12:56 AM

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I can’t believe that the same group of folks that would have a seizure if there was a minute of silence in their kids’ school so that some of the kids could pray if they want, can get bent out of shape when someone else uses their market muscle to remove content that they find offensive.

Apples and oranges. And the oranges are fake.

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PaintedBlack United States Posted on 04/05/2004 at 01:03 AM

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Alrighty, then, my first posting on SEB, and it has to be about some Bush-loving, Bible-thumping, Torquemada-wanna-be Christians who think that since their way is the One True and Only Way, that they can dictate what the rest of the free-thinking world can see and hear and experience. I wonder if these people have Roy Moore and John Ashcroft on speed-dial? They should all get together at “Judge” Moore’s house down ther in Alabammy and have a goold old-fashioned Tent Revival! They would invite the Shrub, of course, but he would just send his favorite hand-puppet Dick Cheney instead, while he stays back in the Papal Palace (also known as the White House) and tells Condie Rice what to say when she goes up in front of the 9/11 Commission. Or he could do like he did in California at church (I think it was) not too long ago, and be piped in “live” via satellite, and tell the people assembled how they’re all going to be soldiers on a mission to make America into a theocracy, as God intended it!

I’m moving to Australia. Who’s coming with me?

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