Clif Garboden says, “Screw You, America!”

Posted by Les on Sunday, January 23, 2005 at 10:59 PM. Read 2024 times. Tags:
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Go read Screw you, America: Sometimes the fish in the barrel deserve to die by Clif Garboden. It pretty much sums up my feelings on Bush’s winning a second term and is pratically SEB in a nutshell. The first sentence in the following paragraph is what cinched it for me, though:

A lot of us effete Easterners want to know: What the fuck is wrong with you?! You voted against your self-interest at every turn (you dumb-asses in South Dakota deserve special credit for voting out one of the most powerful Democrats in the Senate) and re-elected an ignorant cowboy who can’t be trusted to remember a lunch order, never mind run a country. What in the name of God...?! Wait, it was in the name of God, wasn’t it? Rendered weak and ignorant by a spoon-fed climate of fear, you slack-jawed inbred flatlanders have sought refuge in the traditional twin towers of mindlessness--jingoistic patriotism and fundamentalist religion. God’s on your side. Like hell. Jesus loves us, dammit.

Okay, you want God? Let’s talk about God. Your religion is bogus. Fundamentalism, the facile belief in the unexplained and un-researched, is something you born-agains (couldn’t get it right the first time, huh?) share with Al Qaeda, whose ideologues doggedly adhere to religious misinterpretations every bit as silly and dangerous as yours. Just like you, Muslim fundamentalists long to impose an unrealistic and intolerant pseudo-Calvinist morality on the world. In fact, America’s religious right has so much in common with the Shiah, it’s a wonder you guys don’t invite them to join the Rotary. Born-againsters look for the face of Christ in the wallpaper; fundamentalist Muslims hallucinate the voice of the 12th Imam; but aside from that (and extremely divergent attitudes toward pork), you both hate the same stuff--homosexuality, pacifism, Jews, education, uppity women, enlightenment, short skirts, gangsta rap, tattoos, infidels. ... (They also share your love of super-lethal weaponry.)

Well, sorry to burst your holy bubble, Jesus freaks, but God did not create the world in seven days; that’s just ignorant. Like a lot of stuff in the Bible, it didn’t happen. And Moses looked more like Jeff Goldblum than like Charlton Heston. Jesus didn’t hunt; he fished. Jesus wouldn’t want you (or anyone else) to have an assault rifle. What would Jesus do if he met you? He’d ask you to stop ruining his hard-won good reputation. (Y’know the guy died to redeem your sorry ass; you might at least show a little respect for what he was really about.)

It’s a long read, but I couldn’t have written it better myself. It even manages to make my fondness for swearing seem tame in comparison.

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shana Japan Posted on 01/28/2005 at 04:37 AM

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Yeah, consi, and if you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya. wink

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Rufus-Leroy United States Posted on 01/28/2005 at 03:11 PM

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Hey Justin your brain-dead nitwit THE NAZIS WERE THE ULTIMATE RIGHT-WING ULTRA NATIONALIST ANTI-SEMITES. How the fuck could you miss that one asshat! Why don’t you try to improve you educational horizons beginning with your obvious grade school history education and enlightenment will be yours.
People can stay married and be miserable but it the function of a FREE SOCIETY that we are able to make OUR OWN CHOICES and not have a neo-facist with infantile narrowminded views make them for us that distinguishes America from most countries and societies on this globe. So I’ll tell you what, if think that African-Americans need to get or stay married. Why don’t you carry your white bread ass down to the ghetto and let them know first hand the terrible mistakes they are making. You will either succeed or get killed either way society would be the winner. 
As far as Muslim fundamenalists and the Christian right being the same---they are not. Their rhetoric however shares some of the same lines of thought --namely intolerance of others views and a rigid beleif structure. The Muslin fundamentalist acts through Hamas, Al Queada, Islamic Jihad and a plethera of other Jihadist organizations. The Christian fundamentalist WOULD LIKE to act through the US military spreading ‘democracy’ though the barrel of an M-16. This approach might inspire some unbeleivers to see the light at least until you aimed it another direction--but they will never forgive you for trying to force your views on them with violence in their own homeland.
Trying to understand what motivates your enemy is not unpatriotic to the contrary it is very patriotic. If you know what makes your nemesis tick then he is that much easier to defeat because it gives more than one simplistic way(namely killing him) to acheive the goal of nuetralizing him.
As usual you conservatives are unable to break the intellectual cuffs you have put on your mind and are unable to think outside of the box. This is why American conservatism even at the height of its powers is a lame duck. The neo-rights ‘new ideas’ are just the same old homophobic, xenophobic, and racist rhetoric with a new package. It offers nothing trully inspirational or new just the same old angry intolerant crap that inspires fear. Fear never made a people or a nation great.
In case you are wondering I served seven years in the army fought in the first gulf war and was at one time a Republican. I realized later in life that hitting someone until they did things your way is a trully counter-productive way to live in this world and so my views have changed accordingly.

TheBo$$ United States Posted on 01/28/2005 at 07:37 PM

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From way up in the comments:

99% minority

I am the only who went “WTF?” when reading that? Typical americans. If they constitute 99% they are certainly not a minority. Someone needs to rethink their semantics. Probably it’s not the fault of whoever wrote this; he probably went to an American Public School. Americans should homeschool their kids with Wikipedia.

As a huge fan of Greek history and culture (not being an ελλα myself), Democracy’s meaning has been twisted like a balloon at a circus. “Hey, we killed a bunch of your people, but at least you can vote (sort of)!”

As to what Mr. Rufus said, try googling for Don’t support our troops.

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/08/2005 at 04:19 PM

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Many moons ago, while discussing political definition, Les said to me:

Actually, I’m as much a Libertarian as a Liberal myself (check my political compass score in the sidebar).

I finally got around to taking the political compass test myself and thought I’d throw up the results. I score

Economic Left/Right: 4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

So, very close to Les on the social scale, but almost polar opposite on the economic scale.

What I find most interesting is that on their chart of current international figures, not one person is in the same quandrant of the chart that I reside in. Even in the historical chart, only Milt Friedman seems to fall into my quadrant, and possibly Ayn Rand.

This little discussion between Les and I involved the definition of Libertarian, which I asserted was a conservative philosophy and he disagreed. I don’t think there is a clear right or wrong answer to that, but perhaps this quote form the political compass site will shed some light on why the confusion in labels exists.

The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal “anarchism” championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America’s Libertarian Party, which couples law of the jungle right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues.

Anyway, for what it’s worth, that’s where I fall.

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Les United States Posted on 02/08/2005 at 05:48 PM

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Coolness. Explains a lot. grin

Incidentally, I haven’t forgotten that I promised to write an Into to Blogging entry at some point.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/08/2005 at 06:05 PM

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Incidentally, I haven’t forgotten that I promised to write an Into to Blogging entry at some point.

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You’re my hero.

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shana Japan Posted on 02/08/2005 at 06:51 PM

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I think I did something wrong.  I got ridiculous -8 scores on both.  I know I can’t be that extreme…

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/08/2005 at 07:19 PM

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I think I did something wrong.  I got ridiculous -8 scores on both.  I know I can’t be that extreme…

-8’s? Hmmm, maybe there was some sort of glitch. I thought the scale only went up to 5 on either side.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/08/2005 at 07:42 PM

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PS: Love the new avatar, Shana.....

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shana Japan Posted on 02/08/2005 at 07:52 PM

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Why thank you!  I’d been wanting a new one and all of Thrival’s red shoe hoo hah got me thinking...I wanted Dorothy’s shoes but most of the pics I found were crap (or not of Dorothy--yikes!)

I’ll have to try the compass again…

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/08/2005 at 08:15 PM

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Well, I’m glad you didn’t find Dorothy’s feet. These are much sexier. I think it’s the red fishnets....

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Kropotkin South Africa Posted on 02/09/2005 at 02:10 PM

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The scale goes spreads from -10 to +10 at least judging by my results…

Economic Left/Right:
-9.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:
-8.82

Quite extreme I know, but I am a bit of an Anarchist in terms of political philosophy.

Been lurking around here for about 4 months now, trying to read through all the entries and comments and I’m just about done.  Just about everybody who posts here cracks me up (Fundies by demonstrating their low brain power; Regulars by their sarcastic - or just plain brutal - takedowns of the Fundies.)

I’m Afrikaans (from South Africa) so my English may not be quite up to standard…

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 02/09/2005 at 07:36 PM

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Been lurking around here for about 4 months now, trying to read through all the entries and comments and I’m just about done.

Setting a good example!  Glad to see you - and cool avatar.

Why is it so many who apologize for their English use the language better than most American college students?

nowiser United States Posted on 02/09/2005 at 08:09 PM

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Well, I’m glad you didn’t find Dorothy’s feet. These are much sexier. I think it’s the red fishnets....

I concur!  (oh no!  Is my fetish protruding?)
cool hmm

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Mick Australia Posted on 02/09/2005 at 08:10 PM

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Why is it so many who apologize for their English use the language better than most American college students?

Because they have yet to learn bad habits.

Spocko United States Posted on 02/09/2005 at 09:22 PM

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Greetings Kropotkin, welcome to the club!

(mmmm, red shoes) tongue rolleye

shana Japan Posted on 02/09/2005 at 09:35 PM

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Welcome, Kropotkin!  Glad you delurked, and I’m with DoF on your English.  If you hadn’t added that comment at the end, I would never have guessed that you’re not a native speaker.

Dude, glad I found those shoes, then.  Maybe I should buy a pair for myself (instead of just stealing the photo off of yahoo!)

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Spocko United States Posted on 02/09/2005 at 11:09 PM

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Don’t forget the stockings shana.  cool grin

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/11/2005 at 12:27 AM

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Incidentally, I haven’t forgotten that I promised to write an Into to Blogging entry at some point.

Well, I sort of managed to get my site/blog up and running, but then something happened password wise and now I can’t even get in. Very frustrating. I still have ftp access but I can’t figure out what file contains the password info I need to change for the login screen to work.

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Les United States Posted on 02/11/2005 at 06:57 AM

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Drop me an email with what package you’re trying to use and any other details you’d think are important and I’ll see if I can’t offer some suggestions.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/11/2005 at 08:33 PM

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I actually can’t find your email anywhere. :(

I’m using Word Press and I can’t get in through the login screen. I attempted to change the password form the setup password (the host (Yahoo) set the program up, not me) and now the password won’t work. I can still access via ftp, so I thought I’d just look at whatever configuration file might contain the login info but I can’t even figure out which file it might be. Very frustrating.

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Kropotkin South Africa Posted on 02/12/2005 at 01:02 PM

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I’m using Word Press and I can’t get in through the login screen. I attempted to change the password form the setup password (the host (Yahoo) set the program up, not me) and now the password won’t work. I can still access via ftp, so I thought I’d just look at whatever configuration file might contain the login info but I can’t even figure out which file it might be. Very frustrating.

I had the same problem some time ago.

The password is contained in your MySQL database.  Instructions for resetting your password in WordPress can be found here:  WordPress phpMyAdmin Guide

Hope this helps

PS. You have to have access to phpMyAdmin though…

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/12/2005 at 01:11 PM

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I had the same problem some time ago.

The password is contained in your MySQL database.  Instructions for resetting your password in WordPress can be found here:  WordPress phpMyAdmin Guide

Hope this helps

Worked perfectly. Thank you very much.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 02/12/2005 at 01:28 PM

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One other quick WordPress question. I’m use to the way post are truncated here, where only the beginning of longer posts appears and you have to click on it to get to the full article. Is there a way to set up the same kind of thing in WordPress?

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Kropotkin South Africa Posted on 02/12/2005 at 01:47 PM

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One other quick WordPress question. I’m use to the way post are truncated here, where only the beginning of longer posts appears and you have to click on it to get to the full article. Is there a way to set up the same kind of thing in WordPress?

Insert the following HTML into your post where you want the break to occur:

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