And the theme music is AC/DC’s “Back in Black”. 

When I was a kid, we’d ride around throwing water balloons and listening to AC/DC.  They accused us of being devilworshippers.

All I can say is, I’m gonna take back Yule this year for all the pagans (even though I’m an atheist, I think I’ll still do it.) Anyway, I’m gonna start by paint-balling the local nativity scene at the church down the street…

And if Satan owns October, maybe Jebus shouldn’t have sold it to him for that crack money…

What a pathetic loser.

:( I was just trying to be funny...oh wait, the guy in the video, ok.

Where is “Faith Evangelical Church” located? I could barely make out the sign, or the lettering on the church bus as they zipped past.  Perhaps their church needs to be notified of what certain braindead zealots are doing in their name.

Either way, I certainly hope these young men reside in a state that doesn’t require the use of seatbelts - because I think that nice Christian boy videotaped himself breaking two laws.

Garsh! WWJD, Keith Miller and Craig Wheeler?

If they want to run around throwing water balloons I say we up the ante. I noticed they have some nice tall glass windows in front there and I have not shot my pistol lately....

Les, you don’t get it.  Not fighting the celebration of Halloween is the same as letting Satan win!

Why don’t they just make a nice Hell House instead?

It just proves “ More people are driven to Insanity by religious hysteria, than all other causes combined. It’s just another holiday that our economy has come to depend on for survival. This guy must be Anti-American. Wonder if he eats pumpkin pie during Jesus’s birthday bash. What a fuckin moron.

TAFKA Buzz wrote:

All I can say is, I’m gonna take back Yule this year for all the pagans (even though I’m an atheist, I think I’ll still do it.) Anyway, I’m gonna start by paint-balling the local nativity scene at the church down the street…

Don responded:

NO, NO, you don’t want to do that. if you did, that makes you a Tort violator, and by old English common law, to present time, that is a crime against the property of others.

You could be charges with:

Vandalism and graffiti by Oregon laws, and as a terrorist by federal laws. In addition, you could be charged with a “religious hate crime” that adds years to your sentence, supported by your on line confession.

Besides, of all the statutes mentioned you could be brought under “civil litigation”, possibly involving ALL your family and friends. Trust me you do not want to go there.

How is a cop to know the difference from your paint ball gun and the real thing? Do not even ask the question, don’t even think of the act. Study and think for all that your life is worth.

I am too lazy right now to quote Oregon criminal statute, federal criminal codes, statutory regulations of all kinds, Torts in common law with definitions and case history,

“but DO NOT go that paintball thingy”, OK.

There are other ways to say what you mean, to act with full satisfaction, and I stand behind you in many alternatives.

However, you cannot do that paint ball BS. Don’t even go there, as more innocent as yourself have died accordingly, not even to mention a fucked up life.

How to say this? Revenge is best served cold and calculating, and left overs are even better, even better than sex. So, think before you act. Use a court of LAW as your power, NOT the destruction of property by your own volition, or self will.

I highly suspect many states to suffer the consequences of the “Jesus nativity scenes” on “publicly owned” property. On this you have grounds for a claim of fact in a court of law, and YOU have USA constitutional backing.

If you go this rout, a legal rout, make a claim in court, you could have ALL the federal USA Marshals tearing down the “Jesus nativity scene” with international press coverage. That is SO MUCH better than a paint ball gun—Agreed?—Please, I drop to my one knee for your approval of my sincerity, Please say YES.

Don

Don, I’m fairly certain that TAFKA Buzz was being facetious about the paintball scheme.

What else is he gonna do at that age as a xian?
It’s not as if he’s allowed to fuck or drink.
And, being a jackass is so courageously clever. 

Why LJ, are you saying you observed an overtly gay theme throughout this video? I thought Christians were against that sort of thing. I wonder if Keith Miller and Craig Wheeler of “Faith Church” are doing the will of the Father with this little video of theirs.

As music from “AC/DC” blasts, we’re informed that these fine Christian boys are part of the “18th LARGE Group” . . . as one of our heroes takes a swing with his big “hammer” - or is it his big “axe”? Will we see any “log jamming” in this video? hmmm - one wonders.

Then, a Vampire doll (suck, anyone?) is suggestively centered as one of the young men displays his hind quarters - “assuming the position”, as it were - as his friend “puts it between the uprights”.  hmmm.

Finally, who can deny the look of pure lust on the boy’s face as he lovingly fondles a squishy sac filled with liquid, tossing it quickly until it unleashes it’s payload on his intended target.

Keith Miller and Craig Wheeler of “Faith Church” (think this’ll show up when they’re ego-surfing?) - seriously, WWJD? 

One question - why do Christians feel this obsessive need to “TAKE BACK!” holidays that were never theirs to begin with?

Beau: a swing with his big “hammer” - or is it his big “axe”?

It’s what we call a blockbuster (combination wedge and axe on the pointy end); really good for splitting logs to fit in the firebox.
I used one a lot when I was younger and fitter.
Last time was a coupla years ago house-sitting for 3 months up in the hills about 40 km from town during a winter - a wheel-barrow load would last the fire 24 hrs. Fuck, it was cold outside.

Easy with the descriptions there, LJ!  “Blockbuster” indeed! Keith Miller and Craig Wheeler might be reading this, and I suspect this might turn them on! 

I had to clear a lot of dead brush and fallen limbs/trees off my property during the past week.  Chainsawed it all up and made a pile about 7 or 8 feet high by perhaps 10 feet around.  Yesterday, at about 4pm, I lit it up.  It go so hot you couldn’t get within 10 or 12 feet of the blaze. 

GOTT DAY-UM!!

By midnight, there was nothing left but a 6-foot round by 1-foot high pile of hot, glowing ash.  And it was still so hot, you couldn’t stand to be any closer than 3 feet away.  It was in the upper 30’s here last night, and I was standing there in my tee shirt, sweating (settle down, Keith and Craig!).

Grab some marshmallows, everyone!

Keith Miller and Craig Wheeler

I wouldn’t mind a coupla references about these two fellas.
Our Keith Miller was a fighter pilot during WW2 in England and the Errol Flynn of Oz cricket.
He was once asked how he could always be so calm and relaxed in a cricket match and the gist of his retort was: Stress is when you have a Messerschmitt up your arse … which sorta put the two games in perspective. 

LuckyJohn asks: I wouldn’t mind a coupla references about these two fellas

Those are the names of the two Disciples of Jesus in the video Les posted. I’m hoping one day they’ll be ego-surfing, and find their names listed *here*.  Could be fun! 

...Stress is when you have a Messerschmitt up your arse … which sorta put the two games in perspective.

Makes perfect sense . . . a “survivor’s” outlook on life and it’s challenges. 

Many years ago, when I was about 19, I took the train into Manhattan with my dad.  To make a long story short, something happened on the train involving a guy with a knife wanting money, and my dad did a quick judo move on the guy, sending him sprawling down the center aisle of the train. The guy ran off.

I stood there, positively speechless - this was my *dad*, and he’d JUST KICKED SOME ASS.

When we were outside walking, I asked him if he was scared while the situation was unfolding.  He looked at me and said “I survived hand to hand combat in Korea - NOTHING scares me anymore.  My life is gravy!”

I’ll never forget that.

Beau: “I survived hand to hand combat in Korea - NOTHING scares me anymore.  My life is gravy!”

Wow. What a great memory to have of your father.

Keith Miller and Craig Wheeler

I’ve Googled about a bit and found next to nothing - I suppose it’s good (?) enough to know they’re a coupla True Believer™ disciples and they go into full-on fundie file.

Leave it to the christians to hate something they dont at all like, then claim it was theirs in the first place and thatr someone corrupted it, and then fuck around with honest peoples stuff all because they’re not asshole christians like so many out there are. 

I’m just hoping someone returns the favor for his nativity scene display, and fucks up a bastardization of a holiday his religious ancestors stole over cold blood from other religions.

happy Winter Solctice, when it gets here!

Sexy Sadie:

Don, I’m fairly certain that TAFKA Buzz was being facetious about the paintball scheme.

Don:

Chances are, you are right. I just thought a little restraint might be in line. I have seen many things happen in my life, no one is more apt to get carried away with actions against what is horrid than I. More than likely I was talking to myself more so than to others. Whatever, a reminder never hurts to stay on the right side of human justice.

I personally do not have a problem with calibrations of the New Year, a calibration of living and life itself, a calibration, that we made it one more year and are here to talk about it, and giving gifts accordingly.

Cool, however I do despise the nativity scene, as it does NOT endorse human life, but rather a pagan god. When I see that babe in the nativity scene, I do not see a loving family, love of child, deep love of a man to his wife and returned. I see Theist trying to capitalize on, for blood money, a myth god. I see the impalement of human reason on nonsense, everything adverse to the very basics of human existence and enjoyment is wrapped up in the nativity scene.

NO nativitie scenes on public property, government property, nor on property that is held “in common” if one holder objects. This battle is fightable and winnable in a court of law, no pain gun needed. I will not be turned into what is going on in Iraq. Myth and crimes against each other, prophet nothing.

If my neighbor puts up a nativity science to advertise his Stupid Evil Bastard of a god, then I will build an alter with blazing lights to Russell, Dawkins, and Copi, that perhaps humanity could learn something.

No where in the bible is there found the love of family, love to wife, love of child, equal rights to ladies, freedom of thought, freedom of speech, equal protection under the law, nor advancements to the human race. NOWHERE in the bible is any good thing to humanity found.

The nativity scene is a mockery to all those that fought for and died for education, is a disgrace to scientific analysis, is putrid to the rule of laws proven sound by application, and is a symbol of the GROSS religious dark ages that many christians want us to return to because of their Stupid Evil Ignorance!

There is no doubt I side with TAFKA, all but crossing that imaginary line. If someone paint balls my alter to Copi with my lights blazing, I will take legal action. Better to let the Christians error than I.

Don

WBOFTH writes…

I’m just hoping someone returns the favor for his nativity scene display, and fucks up a bastardization of a holiday his religious ancestors stole over cold blood from other religions.

I hope they don’t return the favor. It just brings us down to their level and gives them something to point to as an example of how evil we are. Messing with a nativity scene will always be considered more “evil” than messing with a Halloween display because one is supposedly a holy depiction and the other one isn’t.

WBOFTH writes…
I hope they don’t return the favor. It just brings us down to their level and gives them something to point to as an example of how evil we are. Messing with a nativity scene will always be considered more “evil” than messing with a Halloween display because one is supposedly a holy depiction and the other one isn’t.

Don:

Yes I agree, to the general public placing graffiti on a nativity scene is far worse than spray painting the carved pumkin you put on your front porch.

Fortunately, that is not how the law works or totrs.

Oregon Law:

ORS 164.383 Unlawfully applying graffiti.

(1) A person commits the offense of unlawfully applying graffiti if the person, having no right to do so nor reasonable ground to believe that the person has such right, intentionally damages property of another by applying graffiti to the property.

(2) Unlawfully applying graffiti is a Class A violation. Upon a conviction for unlawfully applying graffiti, a court, in addition to any fine it imposes and pursuant to ORS 137.128 but notwithstanding ORS 137.129, may order the defendant to perform up to 100 hours of community service. The community service must include removing graffiti, either those that the defendant created or those created by another, or both.

(3) If the court orders community service, the community service must be completed within six months after entry of the order unless the person shows good cause why community service cannot be completed within the six-month time period. [1995 c.615 §2; 1999 c.1051 §156]

164.386 Unlawfully possessing graffiti implement.

(1) A person commits the offense of unlawfully possessing a graffiti implement if the person possesses a graffiti implement with the intent of using the graffiti implement in violation of ORS 164.383.

(2) Unlawfully possessing a graffiti implement is a Class C violation. Upon a conviction for unlawfully possessing a graffiti implement, a court, in addition to any fine it imposes and pursuant to ORS 137.128 but notwithstanding ORS 137.129, may order the defendant to perform up to 50 hours of community service. The community service must include removing graffiti, either those that the defendant created or those created by another, or both.

Now this is criminal law, I can also go after the offender in civil court an sue for damages.

If a Christian hurts my giant pumpkin, I am going to be pissed off.

Don

Off topic post about how I missed the chance for a good arguement

Knock at door today- little old lady there and said ‘Can I hand you a tract’

Me “ok- I fancy a laugh”

as she leaves I said “there is no God- it is important to realise this”

Afterwards I thought about how condescending I had been, and I felt bad.  I was wrong.

What I should have done is asked her to hold on for a minute while I read the flyer, then pointed out exactly where it was wrong, illogical, nonsensical and just plain nasty.

She was a Jehovahs Witness*.  They tract quoted Corinthians, not Leviticus about gays, so the ‘mixed fibres’ offensive play was out of the play book, but there is always the ‘if God hates ‘em why did he make them that way’ argument.  Plus statements saying if your religeon teaches of an afterlife then it is a false religeon- Jesus will resurrect the dead- which will be a bit icky, all those decomposed bodies, plus we could be awfully overcrowded. Plus exactly where did Jesus ascend to?

* The Jehovahs witness joke

A plague of frogs collided with a cloud of locusts today.  Police are asking for Jehovah’s Witnesses

I don’t get it. My local Christian Youth Association holds a haunted maze every year. Good kids, good clean fun.

We do it more grown up. Complete with EMF Trifield Meter, Infrared night vision and a squirt gun full of holywater.

The proton pack’s out of budget.

Sigh