Bush Administration’s meddling with science to be investigated.

Posted by Les on Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 08:55 AM. Read 1649 times. Tags: ,
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Looks like someone in Congress has finally gotten as annoyed as I am with the Bush Administration’s near-constant science manipulation and an investigation is being launched:

WASHINGTON (AP) - Two federal agencies are investigating whether the Bush administration tried to block government scientists from speaking freely about global warming and censor their research, a senator said Wednesday.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg, (D-N.J.), said he was informed that the inspector generals for the Commerce Department and NASA had begun “co- ordinated, sweeping investigations of the Bush administration’s censorship and suppression” of federal research into global warming.

“These investigations are critical because the Republicans in Congress have ignored this serious problem,” Lautenberg said.

He said the investigations “will uncover internal documents and agency correspondence that may expose widespread misconduct.” He added, “Taxpayers do not fund scientific research so the Bush White House can alter it.”

About damned time. Don’t know anything will actually come of it, but hope springs eternal.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 12:58 PM

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Don: I now have to memorize and have a definitive association for KPatrickGlover as being KPG.

Um, it’s really not that difficult...unlike transforming your thoughts into coherent, concise words and sentences, which is clearly not your forte.

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Michael Peacock United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 01:09 PM

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There are strange, as-yet unexplained things in this universe, one of which, I suspect, is that Don is really Rose Wise, returned without the “god bless you all"s in all caps.

KPG: If so, the school system here has obviously failed you.

Don’t be so harsh on the school system.  It takes two to tango.  Even so, Don’s prhasing, broken diction, and failure to end simple interrogatives with a question mark are classic markers of foreign speakers trying to master English.  I gotta give him his props, though, since he’s displaying great courage in attempting flame-bait folks on a discussion board such as this so ill-armed.

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Don United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 01:11 PM

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Paul, I have read your post, a good post at that. You are a very thoughtful and a reasonable person. If I may, not being offensive to persons, nor to you, make a comment.

You said speaking as Paul to my understanding:

Paul, I believe that we do have real problems with global warming, fish depletion, pollution and some other things.  Personally, I am not sure what I am willing to do to help mitigate the situation.

Don responds as is his contumelious nature:

I agree. In addition, even more so I greatly protest the desiccation of MY environment!

I look for authority to make corrections, I want power! I want to live, I want my like kind to go where I have only dreamed about, and I do Not want the rich and powerful to usurp me. I am a Junkyard dog, I am a common person, and if corporations and governments shit on “my land”, I will NOT be silent!

Look at the gd SUN for energy. The stinking thing is free, NO cost involved. It shines NO MATTER WHAT, and some FUCKING EVIL BASTARD of a politician or scientist, wants to tell me different?  Where is my slingshot, pee shooter, and spit wads, I am going to war! Darwin is right, as all the human race may not stand to the reality of their own STPIDITY! In addition, ALL the cosmos stands as a HUMAN hand grasp away!

In addition, I am the only loving intellectual creature that sees this; such tortured of body and mind, that no man/lady should ever have to endure.

Look at the GD sun, and ONLY a fucking Evil Bastard of a human would put a price on it!

Don

Les United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 01:31 PM

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I’m glad I’m not the only one who has trouble figuring out what point, exactly, Don is trying to make with half of his comments. At this point I’m pretty much skipping over them as pointless drivel.

Don United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 02:21 PM

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Brock said:

Don, you have a mighty ego. Everything with you is me, me, me. and do you really think everyone has nothing better to do than read your ramblings?
My advice is slow down, make some friends here and try to enjoy your stay. We’re not just imagining that you’re being annoying.

Don said:

I know there is truth and fact in what you are saying. However, I just do not have time for that. I do not have another 10,000 nor 50,000 years to see the human race be it all it can be.

I am a male, a bull male; I survived this entire human race and cosmos what ever has been thrown at me, and to my linage. I survived. I stand strong, and Not one weak bone in my body; or beak me, and you win, that is the rules, I accept.

This human race, ALL OF US, can achieve so much greater, and I have thousands of years of my like kind for backing, even they had so much less than what I have to date. 

The torched in the galilees, the hung without cause, the weak persuaded to battle and their death assured in all I can NOT sit still in this sight, nor shall I be silent. I am the human race, and I want to pass on my best.

It is a great curse to know your history, to know where you came from, to know your fathers, mothers, siblings, long past; so I stand for my like kind;

Try to rip the breath out of me if you can! Until then, I live, I reach for the sun and to the STARS, as my ancestors did, and try to beat this goal out of me, it will not happen. Not now, not tomorrow, not as the sun shines, nor as I can see the light of day.

I’m going upward, IN reality, and I will drag kicking and screaming all that I can cary untill I fail, and I will NOT relent untill I kiss dirt, and it has not happened yet.

Don

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 02:34 PM

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Michael Peacock: There are strange, as-yet unexplained things in this universe, one of which, I suspect, is that Don is really Rose Wise…

I don’t know...for me there are uncanny parallels between Don’s comments and those of the late, unlamented Godless Raven. This becomes especially evident when I look at Don’s tendency to post too much at one time, his failure to clearly state his position on a given topic, his fairly massive ego, and his degeneration into babbling nonsense whenever a nerve has been struck.

Don, if you want us to take you seriously, I suggest you try to be more concise and to-the-point when you type. It would also help if you didn’t take such a know-it-all stance when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about (as is the case with your comments in the gay marriage topic).

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Les United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 02:38 PM

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I vote to nominate Don as the Official SEB Resident Nutcase. The position has been vacant since Godless Raven left, who, of course, took it over from Rose Wise.

Don United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 03:16 PM

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Less:

I vote to nominate Don as the Official SEB Resident Nutcase. The position has been vacant since Godless Raven left, who, of course, took it over from Rose Wise.

Don:

As to you Les, anyone that that expresses themselves is a nut case, like you are an example to follow for sanity.

I shut you down in your challenge as to gay marriage, so you want remorse, fine have your way. You are still wrong.

Look at your site, utter stupidity, hardly a sane word written other than mine, and I post here, and you dare call me a nut case.  You are an idiot Les. Who gave you the papers of sanity?

By what authority, other than banding, makes you sane and reasonable?  What you protest, as truth by authority, you endorse, what a hypocrite. I have deal with this BS many times.

Yeah I thought so, you are wordless, but I do thank you for an opportunity to post my thoughts even though you think I am crazy. I do thank you for this space.  I do thank you for a space to express my craziness.

So where have I hurt you, others, or myself? The best you can do is give validity to the USA State and Federal laws I have referred to, and beyond that, you are just a ticking bell with a worthless opinion as any other even myself.

I kind of hate to rip the rug out from under you Les, and then beat you with it, but then on the other hand you give value to life and so I thank you.

Don

Cindi United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 03:54 PM

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The quality of unmedicated whackjobs seems to be slipping around here.

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Consigliere United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 03:56 PM

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I second Les’s nomination.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 04:08 PM

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Don: Must I define what “thinking” is?

I’d really rather you didn’t.

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Cindi United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 04:13 PM

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I’d really rather you didn’t.

Damn, Sadie. That’s hysterically funny in its simplicity!

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Cindi United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 04:15 PM

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You are an idiot Les. Who gave you the papers of sanity?

And Don....who took yours away?

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Don United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 04:29 PM

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Cindi
The quality of unmedicated whackjobs seems to be slipping around here.

Don:

Yeah you say that now, but wait till your ass is on the line with an insurance claim, judgment in contract, probate, support of religious rights, people rights one to an other, over taxation, a question of federal law, a false accusation by the state or feds, or to make the best of rotten situation, then, we will see who calls who a wacky job.

I have news for you, I am a reality, just as any other human you fork over your cash to for goods and services. What I offer is free, so count your blessing as you can.

Don

Cindi United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 04:33 PM

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Yeah you say that now, but wait till your ass is on the line with an insurance claim, judgment in contract, probate, support of religious rights, people rights one to an other, over taxation, a question of federal law, a false accusation by the state or feds, or to make the best of rotten situation, then, we will see who calls who a wacky job.

Those people are my clients, you jackass.

Anybody have a butterfly net? Haldol?

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Les United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 05:19 PM

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Don spews forth with the following…

As to you Les, anyone that that expresses themselves is a nut case, like you are an example to follow for sanity.

Never claimed I was an example of anything worth following, that’s just your assumption. It’s also not true that anyone who expresses themselves is a nut case in my eyes as there are plenty of people here expressing themselves that I have yet to call a nut case.

I shut you down in your challenge as to gay marriage, so you want remorse, fine have your way. You are still wrong.

Hate to tell you this, but you haven’t shut down anything. You did blather on at length about how gay marriage is illegal because it’s against the law, but that doesn’t answer my challenge at all.

Look at your site, utter stupidity, hardly a sane word written other than mine, and I post here, and you dare call me a nut case.  You are an idiot Les. Who gave you the papers of sanity?

The other’s are right, you do have quite the ego. I’ve not seen much sanity in your writings to date. I have seen a lot of incoherence coupled with narcissism, arrogance and hubris. It’s amazing you can get your head through a doorway.

By what authority, other than banding, makes you sane and reasonable?  What you protest, as truth by authority, you endorse, what a hypocrite.

No hypocrisy here. Just me stating my opinion based on the evidence at hand. I don’t claim any special authority nor that I’m more sane than anyone else, but I sure do seem to have hit a nerve with you here.

I have deal with this BS many times.

How’s the old joke go again? Ah yes! A criminal sits in a jail cell pondering his situation. The speech bubble over his head says: “Nineteen arrests. Nineteen convictions. Maybe it’s me.”

Have you considered that the reason you’ve had to deal with this “BS” many times might be because it’s you?

Yeah I thought so, you are wordless, but I do thank you for an opportunity to post my thoughts even though you think I am crazy. I do thank you for this space.  I do thank you for a space to express my craziness.

I’m wordless? You weren’t seriously expecting me to break into your comment with a reply while you were typing it, did you? That’s a sure sign of your craziness if you did.

So where have I hurt you, others, or myself? The best you can do is give validity to the USA State and Federal laws I have referred to, and beyond that, you are just a ticking bell with a worthless opinion as any other even myself.

Never claimed you had hurt me. The rest of that paragraph makes no sense.

I kind of hate to rip the rug out from under you Les, and then beat you with it, but then on the other hand you give value to life and so I thank you.

Dude, I don’t think you could even find the rug let alone rip it out from under me. But good luck with trying.

I especially liked this bit of your reply to Cindi:

I have news for you, I am a reality, just as any other human you fork over your cash to for goods and services. What I offer is free, so count your blessing as you can.

Are you certain that English is your first language? If not then the above mangling of syntax is understandable, but if it is then that has to be some of the funniest shit I’ve read in awhile.

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 05:22 PM

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“Behold, the nonsensical ravings of the lunatic mind...”

Don, nobody has really disagreed with any of your points. There’s a reason for this. We don’t know what any of your points actually are. Do you understand what I’m saying? If so, it’s because I’m using actual sentences to communicate. Notice little things like the nouns and the verbs. Ones that actually go together and make some sort of sense.

We’d all love to debate you, but we can’t until we can figure out what your fucking saying.

I’ve run across people who speak like you before. Most of them wore tinfoil hats and ended up on thorozine.

Please, get help.

“Stop hurting America...”

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Cindi United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 05:56 PM

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It appears to me that Don thinks he may be some sort of a god.  Of something.  Maybe he’s just not from our dimension and that’s why nobody here can make out a fucking thing he’s talking about.

I’m not even sure I could twist my mind such that I could make up shit like what he’s writing.

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Patness Canada Posted on 11/03/2006 at 06:28 PM

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Yeah, there are probably quite a few good references for Don. Although I do see the similarity between Don and GR, I nominate John A. Davison as my candidate for “guy behind the Don”.

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Michael Peacock United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 06:38 PM

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Les: It’s amazing you can get your head through a doorway.

Oh my, Diet Coke came out my nose on that one.

Don: I am a male, a bull male; I survived this entire human race and cosmos what ever has been thrown at me, and to my linage. I survived. I stand strong, and Not one weak bone in my body; or beak me, and you win, that is the rules, I accept.

You’re right Don - everyone here except you must be retarded. This is obviously the key to your thesis that it’s high time the Bush Administration were held accountable for it’s objectionable misuse of scientific evidence for political purposes.  Either that, or my bag-o-hammers is rattling overmuch.

Interesting that you mention bull.

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itdontmatter United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 06:45 PM

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I want some of whatever drugs Don has been taking.  In some ways he sounds like a bot.

LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 11/03/2006 at 07:05 PM

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Les: I’m wordless? You weren’t seriously expecting me to break into your comment with a reply while you were typing it, did you?

Les, I too was wondering why you didn’t butt in and respond right then and there in the middle of his contribution. LOL

Don, people generally don’t respond well to lectures that aren’t well thought out and presented point by point - rambling doesn’t do anything but amuse … for a moment.

Coupla days ago I watched Pink Panther 2006 then read some of your posts in another thread - there were distinct similarities of insanity and I laughed.
As an observation, I see flashes of Og Mandino in some of the stuff you write and the manner in which you write it but, Og learnt to curb his enthusiasm and make his stuff logically meaningful before he published.

Settle down mate; we are not the enemy.
I take medication for my insanity; sometimes it helps.  wink

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Michael Peacock United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 07:09 PM

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Cool - I want some of your meds, LJ!

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 07:53 PM

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Dammit, LJ! I’m geting lazy. I’m so used to all the helpful links you usually put into your posts and this time, nothing!

Blah!

Now I have to google Og Mandino on my own.....

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Consigliere United States Posted on 11/03/2006 at 08:06 PM

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KPG:

Og Mandino wrote several books.  He is most famous for the God Memo.  See http://www.wowzone.com/godmemo.htm

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