BattleCry 2006: Recruiting Christian youth for a religious war tomorrow.

Posted by Les on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:02 PM. Read 4325 times. Tags:
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Go read the three columns submitted to Truthdig by Sunsara Taylor on her experiences attending the three day Christian evangelical youth movement known as BattleCry:

If you’ve been waiting to get alarmed until the Christian fascist movement started filling stadiums with young people and hyping them up to do battle in “God’s army,” wait no longer.

In recent weeks, BattleCry, a Christian fundamentalist youth movement, has attracted more than 25,000 people to mega-rally rock concerts in San Francisco and Detroit, and this weekend it plans to fill Wachovia Stadium in Philadelphia.

The leaders of BattleCry claim that their religion and values are under attack, but amid spectacular light shows, Hummers, Navy SEALs and military imagery on stage, it is BattleCry that has declared war on everyone else. Its leader, Ron Luce, insists: “This is war. And Jesus invites us to get into the action, telling us that the violent—the ‘forceful’ ones—will lay hold of the kingdom.”

Here’s page 2 and page 3 and I highly suggest you read them all. It’ll probably scare the shit out of you.

There is a definite attempt taking place by the Christian Evangelicals to get ‘em while their young and get them ready to literally shed blood in the fight to turn America into a theocracy. This is where we’re going to see the next round of domestic terrorism come forth and our President is fully behind the effort all the way:

This was the letter that opened the event. Its author was George W. Bush.  Yes, the president of the United States sent a letter of support, greeting, prayer and encouragement to the BattleCry event held at Wachovia Spectrum Stadium in Philadelphia on May 12. Immediately afterward, a preacher took the microphone and led the crowd in prayer. Among other things, he asked the attendees to “Thank God for giving us George Bush.”

On his cue, about 17,000 youths from upward of 2,000 churches across America and Canada directed their thanks heavenward in unison.

Throughout the three and a half hours of BattleCry’s first session, I thought of only one analogy that fit the experience: This must have been what it felt like to watch the Hitler Youth, filled with self-righteous pride, proclaim the supremacy of their beliefs and their willingness to shed blood for them.

You’d like to think this kind of shit can’t happen in America, but there’s no reason it can’t. Who’s to say that someday this country will be the one all the other countries are banding together to defeat? If these people have their way that day may come sooner than later.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 08:46 AM

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Zilch: I believe the standard prize is an imaginary tank of gas for your imaginary Mercedes cool smirk  So which American Beauty character seems most likely to be sitting there typing Megiddo’s comments?  (It would seem he hasn’t seen the movie, or at least declines to speculate as to which character is him)

zilch Austria Posted on 06/12/2006 at 08:57 AM

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You know, DoF- Kevin Spacey’s daughter’s boyfriend’s father.  I can’t remember his name- the latent/homophobic ex-Marine.  I’ll take the imaginary batteries for my imaginary electric car, if you please. LOL

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:13 AM

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Les, I could say that you were arrogant for sounding like you know without a doubt that there is no God. We can all be called arrogant, but it really doesnt mean anything. You dont think there is more evil today? You need wake up and come back from your happy place that you were at all your life.

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:19 AM

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Zilch - batteries?  Good idea!

(...backs slowly away from the space between Megidodo and Les...)

Les United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:30 AM

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Megiddo spews forth with…

Les, I could say that you were arrogant for sounding like you know without a doubt that there is no God.

No, actually, you can’t because I’ve never claimed to know without a doubt that there is no God. You’ve once again demonstrated your arrogance by presuming to know what I’ve said.

We can all be called arrogant, but it really doesnt mean anything.

Buy a dictionary, the meaning is clearly defined. I realize that would require you to educate yourself, which is a sin in your religion, but if you want to be taken seriously you’re going to have to risk it. Otherwise you’re just another in a long line of laughingstocks.

You dont think there is more evil today? You need wake up and come back from your happy place that you were at all your life.

More likely you need to get your nose out from between the pages of your Bible and start looking at reality as opposed to the fevered delusions you seem to have been suffering from.

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zilch Austria Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:32 AM

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Arrogance, ignorance, hubris, and bigotry all in one small package brought to you by the wonderful religion of Christianity!

Now now, Les.  We don’t know how arrogant, ignorant, hubristic, and bigoted Megiddo was before he became a Christian.  Maybe Christianity actually mellowed him out…

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:39 AM

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By not meaning anything, I meant that calling me arrogant is futile because you refuse to look in the mirror and realize that deep down you are searching for something and until you open your heart, you will never find true happiness and will die bitter. You need to get your nose in the Bible and start putting 2 and 2 together. You can have all the ducation in the world, if your heart is closed to God, everything else doesnt mean a thing. And you are ASSUMING I am not educated, something you accuse me of doing. We all assume things from time to time, but I am not assuming anything. I used to be like you and it sucked. I feel for you. I am just glad that I woke up at 22.

zilch Austria Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:46 AM

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You need to get your nose in the Bible and start putting 2 and 2 together.

I did, and realized that it was a fairy tale.  But then, I know how to add…

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Les United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 09:52 AM

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Megiddo again spews forth…

By not meaning anything, I meant that calling me arrogant is futile because you refuse to look in the mirror and realize that deep down you are searching for something and until you open your heart, you will never find true happiness and will die bitter.

Now you presume to know how I’ll die. You know little to nothing about me and yet you make claim after claim as though you’ve known me for years. It’s sad, really, how predictable you’re becoming.

You need to get your nose in the Bible and start putting 2 and 2 together.

I’m willing to bet you I’ve spent more time studying the Bible than you have. You may be surprised to know that I read the Bible on a regular basis. I have one handy at all times either in physical book form or electronic reference.

Again, don’t presume to tell me what I need to do unless you actually have a clue what I’ve done. You know nothing and you repeatedly demonstrate that fact by making such claims.

You can have all the ducation in the world, if your heart is closed to God, everything else doesnt mean a thing. And you are ASSUMING I am not educated, something you accuse me of doing.

No need to assume, you’ve demonstrated your lack of education on the topics at hand remarkably well already. You seem well educated in the nonsense that is Biblical scripture, but being well educated in historical fiction doesn’t do much to help you in the real world.

We all assume things from time to time, but I am not assuming anything.

Yes you are. You’re assuming I’ve not spent enough time reading the Bible, that I’m bitter, that I only want to accept Evolution because it allows me to “act like an animal” and so on. You’ve made almost nothing but assumptions since you showed up here. The fact that you claim otherwise again demonstrates what an idiot you are.

I used to be like you and it sucked. I feel for you. I am just glad that I woke up at 22.

Again, I’m willing to bet you were never anything like me. I am me and I don’t have any complaints about my life. You’ve not woken up, you’ve fallen into a delusion that allows you to think you have a clue when you don’t really know anything at all.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 06/12/2006 at 10:33 AM

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Megiddo: I’m not arrogant I just know what is true and what is not

Oscar Wilde: Truth, in the matters of religion, is simply the opinion that has survived.
And, that’s that. wink

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 11:13 AM

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Megiddo: “I used to be like you and it sucked. I feel for you. I am just glad that I woke up at 22.”

Luke 10:11 “The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.”

Aw, heck, what’s the use.  It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

zilch Austria Posted on 06/12/2006 at 11:27 AM

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It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

But it’s more fun than shooting monkeys in a barrel…

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 11:51 AM

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List of cognitive biases

Just sayin’.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 12:08 PM

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Megiddo: You dont think this place is full of evil?

No. There is no such thing as “evil.”

In fact, it seems to me that a majority of the unfortunate aspects of human nature arise from blind religious conviction such as yours, Meg.

I’m not arrogant I just know what is true and what is not

Ha! You know what’s “true” and what isn’t? I wouldn’t trust you to be able to tell my two dogs apart (and they’re two different breeds). Anyone who attempts to seriously view the real world through biblical lenses is already at a loss when it comes to matters of truth.

And I no longer think that you’re merely arrogant--I’m also beginning to suspect that you’re fairly unstable.

I used to be like you and it sucked. I feel for you. I am just glad that I woke up at 22.�

Yeah, because you really come off as a happy person now! Here’s a hint: if you were truly happy and secure in your lifestyle, my revelation of my sex life should not have sent you into such commentary convulsions. For that matter, you also would not feel the need to proselytize on weblogs to people who are far more intelligent than you.

Did you lose sleep over John last night? Did you pray for us? If so, it won’t do any good--John’s getting together with his buddy Greg tonight. LOL

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 12:23 PM

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A bigot is a conservative who is winning a debate with a liberal. Trust me I was in no frenzy about your gay boyfriend. I came to the site because I like to irritate liberals and other people who chastize the Christian faith. You people are seriously demented and in need of some serious help. Your attitudes and lifestyles are just absolutely atrocious and you will be able to see each other hell if you keep it up.

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 12:27 PM

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I came to the site because I like
to irritate

I believe that is the very definition of a troll.  I believe Sadie wins the prize for being the first to call this one…

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 12:39 PM

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Megiddo: A bigot is a conservative who is winning a debate with a liberal.

Make that extremely unstable! LOL

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Les United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 12:49 PM

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Seeing as Megiddo has admitted to being a troll I see no reason not to ban him outright. If he has no intent to contribute anything but harassment I see no need to waste the database space on him.

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Patness Canada Posted on 06/12/2006 at 01:06 PM

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Megiddo: A bigot is a conservative who is winning a debate with a liberal.

Make that extremely unstable! LOL

Yep, now we get into the Ann-Coulter-style attacks on liberalism! Meg, here’s a question for you to answer. Not surprising, really; Coulter’s a troll of the more prominent variety. It shouldn’t be a surprise we’re starting to see similar traits in Meg.

In that light, Meg, what is a liberal? Concrete definition, please. Seriously, I want to see how you answer this.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 01:10 PM

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There’s no point, Arc.  You might as well try to engage a nettle-bush in conversation.  And, what Les said.

Patness Canada Posted on 06/12/2006 at 01:11 PM

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Heheh, too late, it appears. I go out to grab some ice cream and Meg’s all banned and such raspberry.

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Les United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 01:15 PM

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Not banned just yet, but very much on the verge.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 01:21 PM

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So Meg’s really gone? That’s too bad, in a sense. I was starting to really have fun with the asshole!  LOL

Anyway, here’s my tribute to the late, insane Megiddo:

We had joy, we had fun,
We had seasons in the sun
But the trolls and web space
Like our patience have all gone
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*Apologies to Terry Jacks.

Goodnight, Meg, wherever you are. Don’t pass up the chance for some hot anal lovin’. Just ask John--it’s great stuff.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 01:24 PM

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It appears I spoke too soon. Ah, well, when Meg is finally banned, my above post will apply.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/12/2006 at 04:23 PM

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Les, you have the patience of a saint. I would have booted the little prick’s ass long ago.

Meg, if you’re still around, go fuck yourself.

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