BattleCry 2006: Recruiting Christian youth for a religious war tomorrow.

Posted by Les on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:02 PM. Read 4658 times. Tags:
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Go read the three columns submitted to Truthdig by Sunsara Taylor on her experiences attending the three day Christian evangelical youth movement known as BattleCry:

If you’ve been waiting to get alarmed until the Christian fascist movement started filling stadiums with young people and hyping them up to do battle in “God’s army,” wait no longer.

In recent weeks, BattleCry, a Christian fundamentalist youth movement, has attracted more than 25,000 people to mega-rally rock concerts in San Francisco and Detroit, and this weekend it plans to fill Wachovia Stadium in Philadelphia.

The leaders of BattleCry claim that their religion and values are under attack, but amid spectacular light shows, Hummers, Navy SEALs and military imagery on stage, it is BattleCry that has declared war on everyone else. Its leader, Ron Luce, insists: “This is war. And Jesus invites us to get into the action, telling us that the violent—the ‘forceful’ ones—will lay hold of the kingdom.”

Here’s page 2 and page 3 and I highly suggest you read them all. It’ll probably scare the shit out of you.

There is a definite attempt taking place by the Christian Evangelicals to get ‘em while their young and get them ready to literally shed blood in the fight to turn America into a theocracy. This is where we’re going to see the next round of domestic terrorism come forth and our President is fully behind the effort all the way:

This was the letter that opened the event. Its author was George W. Bush.  Yes, the president of the United States sent a letter of support, greeting, prayer and encouragement to the BattleCry event held at Wachovia Spectrum Stadium in Philadelphia on May 12. Immediately afterward, a preacher took the microphone and led the crowd in prayer. Among other things, he asked the attendees to “Thank God for giving us George Bush.”

On his cue, about 17,000 youths from upward of 2,000 churches across America and Canada directed their thanks heavenward in unison.

Throughout the three and a half hours of BattleCry’s first session, I thought of only one analogy that fit the experience: This must have been what it felt like to watch the Hitler Youth, filled with self-righteous pride, proclaim the supremacy of their beliefs and their willingness to shed blood for them.

You’d like to think this kind of shit can’t happen in America, but there’s no reason it can’t. Who’s to say that someday this country will be the one all the other countries are banding together to defeat? If these people have their way that day may come sooner than later.

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GeekMom United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 05:21 PM

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Oh yes, and our country IS disintegrating as the number of people who believe in creationism rises.

Debate THAT all you want.

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 05:51 PM

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Geekmom: Oh yes, and our country IS disintegrating as the number of people who believe in creationism rises.

I’ll second that our country has been disintegrating since George W. Bush was elected president. Ironically, the Christian Right’s “moral” policies regarding sexuality and reproductive choice will likely lead to more teen pregnancy, abortion, and diseases.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 06/11/2006 at 06:48 PM

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S-Sadie: Ironically, the Christian Right’s “moral� policies regarding sexuality and reproductive choice will likely lead to more teen pregnancy, abortion, and diseases.

It’s the ostrich syndrome. wink

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 07:04 PM

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I tell ya, I feel bad for all of you and you will all be in my prayers. I hope someday you will find true happiness. Only one thing can help you.

LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 06/11/2006 at 07:22 PM

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Meg: … true happiness.

Two words which are most often used Subjectively.
I doubt your definition of either is universally accepted.
Please, don’t feel bad for me.
Please, continue to feel bad about yourself. wink

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 07:33 PM

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Megiddo:  tell ya, I feel bad for all of you and you will all be in my prayers. I hope someday you will find true happiness.

Boy, are you an arrogant fuck! I’ll have you know that I live a very happy life. This is partly because I am honest enough with myself to realize that the true meaning of life is to enjoy it. After all, you only live once.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 08:16 PM

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I tell ya, I feel bad for all of you and you will all be in my prayers.

Fuck you, you obnoxious, arrogant prick.

I hope someday you will find true happiness.

I find true happiness on a startlingly regular basis. It’s called an orgasm, you should try it some time.

Only one thing can help you.

After listening to your shit, you’re right, only one thing can help. Massive doses of Tylenol.

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Patness Canada Posted on 06/11/2006 at 08:23 PM

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Wow, I missed a lot in a single day. *waves to Meg* welcome, please check your claims at the window; they will be thoroughly inspected. You assume the sole responsibility for the welfare of your claims. Avoid bringing fragile claims; although we won’t break them, we can’t guarantee they weren’t broken in the first place wink.

Enjoy your stay at our enviro-commie-sex-o-rama-hut. Also, regarding prayer, I’m covered. Thanks anyway.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 08:34 PM

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Damn, I come late to all the good parties.

Megiddo, saying that sticking to puritanical sex guidelines prevents all sex-related problems is like saying that getting all your nourishment through a feeding tube prevents tooth decay.  True-ish, but irrelevant.  In the real world people DO enjoy sex outside of marriage and it isn’t going to stop. 

Luckily we have condoms and vaccines and contraceptives to manage those risks and those management tools would work a hell of a lot better if you fundies would stop trying to keep us from telling young people about it.

The world of morality extends far beyond proper wiener hygiene.  For today’s God-shouters, though, it’s all about the wiener.

Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 08:53 PM

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KPatrickGlover gets his happiness from orgasms, most likely watching some sort of hardcore porn because he cant get a decent woman of his own, Sadie gets her happiness from watching her “beautiful guy” get it in the butt periodically, which is by the way, GAY. Arc legion, why do I have a feeling youre not covered. Dont worry I gotcha. Decrepit old fool, you depend on flawed contraceptives because you cant keep it on your pants. Good luck with that. Hearing about some of you makes me feel pretty good about myself.

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 08:59 PM

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Megiddo, there you go with those assumptions again.

(Scene: Megiddo arrives at the Pearly Gates.  St. Peter is in the can, and God wasn’t busy at the moment so he’s minding the booth.  We arrive just as Megiddo says;  “But Go-od, I told them all about sexual purity!“

Your homework assignment:  look up all the verses in the Bible about caring for the poor.  I just need to know how many there are and you seem like you need something to do.  While you’re at it, also look up the number of times Jesus mentioned homosexuality.

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:04 PM

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LOL!

What do you know, Meg grew some testes!

Open fire, folks….

(off to get some popcorn to watch the inevitable stomping)

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:23 PM

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Do you work at a homeless shelter? You seem very interested in people with very low incomes. As for homosexuality, The Old Testament mentions homosexuality 8 times. In the New Testament it mentions it it 4 times in Romans 1:24-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:10, and Revelation 17:5.

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:30 PM

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Interesting how you had that information at your fingertips.

First it’s anti-sex, than anti-woman, now we get anti-gay.

You belong to one of those groups, don’t ya? What is it, son, skinhead, clan, something like that?

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:32 PM

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So that’s a total of 12 times in the entire bible?  OK, now how many times does it mention the charging of interest when loaning money?  How many times are the eating of shellfish mentioned?  (Don’t forget the oblique references in the NT)  And you still haven’t looked up all the verses on caring for the poor.  That should keep you busy for a while.  (Hint: it’s a slightly larger number than those other subjects)

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:37 PM

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“You can safely assume that you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.“
. . . Anne Lamott, author

Just seemed to kind of fit in here somehow.

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:37 PM

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Oooh, did someone strike a nerve, Megiddo? LOL

...Sadie gets her happiness from watching her “beautiful guy� get it in the butt periodically, which is by the way, GAY.

Not that there’s anything wrong with being gay, but you’re wrong (what a surprise). Homosexuality is the state of being attracted primarily to persons of the same gender. John is not sexually attacted primarily to other men. He swings both ways, which is by the way BI.

But you know what, two can play at this game, Meg. I’d say that you get your happiness by leading a boring, family-oriented life and occasionally stopping by weblogs to harass intelligent people who don’t buy your conservative Christian mumbo-jumbo.

See, here’s an example:

As for homosexuality, The Old Testament mentions homosexuality 8 times. In the New Testament it mentions it it 4 times in Romans 1:24-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:10, and Revelation 17:5.

At least you haven’t started actually quoting nonsense from the Babble. If that’s your thing, you’d perhaps find a more receptive audience at the RaptureReady boards. Most of us here have not only read the Babble, but have dismissed it as fantasy. I personally think it’s boring nonsense, certainly not anything upon which to base my life. But then, I’m a proud hedonist who actually knows how to live my own life.

Mmmmmm…popcorn!

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:42 PM

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Sorry for the grammatical errors in my above post. red face

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:47 PM

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Why does it matter if poverty is mentioned more often than homosexuality. Dont quite get your point yet, but the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah definitely got the hint early on when God completely destroyed both cities because they were so overrun with sexual sin.

leguru United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:51 PM

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I come late, too . . . uhh to all the good parties, that is. L4T, and I imagine Megiddo, have some explaining to do about their “God.“ On 5/29 L4T said he would pray,

“God, surely this must be some gross misunderstanding. Please, show me how this proof can’t be true!� If no answer came, I’d still wonder if the “proof� itself wasn’t some test from the Almighty Himself a la Abraham with his son Isaac.

Now, that’s one of the hardest concepts I have about a “loving” God. How can any loving God ask, just ask, one of his subjects to sacrifice his only son? What a sick Bastard. (Sorry for the loose use of the term “Bastard.“ No offense meant, Les.)

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:53 PM

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Meg: Why does it matter if poverty is mentioned more often than homosexuality.

Presumably, it has to do with the backwards priorities of the Christian Right. These idiots rant and rave about non-issues such as homosexuality and reproductive rights, yet when was the last time you heard one of them put up a concerted effort to end poverty?

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:54 PM

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The fact that he likes sex with women is irrelevant if he also like a mans penis in his rectum. Sorry, thats gay, and I have a feeling that if you were taking care of everything correctly for him, he wouldnt need the afformentioned other mans penis in his rectum.

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 09:59 PM

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KPG: First it’s anti-sex, than anti-woman, now we get anti-gay.

Yep, Megiddo is a winner all around. tongue rolleye

What is it, son, skinhead, clan, something like that?

I’m willing to bet a pretty penny that his opinions regarding Muslims and Mexican immigrants are none too fond.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 10:01 PM

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Meg: Sorry, thats gay, and I have a feeling that if you were taking care of everything correctly for him, he wouldnt need the afformentioned other mans penis in his rectum.

So you’re not only ignorant all around, but you’re arrogant as all hell, too? Of course, if my worldview were as narrow and confined as yours, I might have a really difficult time understanding sexual and lifestyle variety as well.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 10:02 PM

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Christ, you’re not only bigoted, you’re fucking dense. Dumber than a sack of hammers.

and I have a feeling that if you were taking care of everything correctly for him, he wouldnt need the afformentioned other mans penis in his rectum.

Not it off, fuck nuts. No personal cracks aimed at a lady, it’s not only “un-christian”, it’ll get you bitch slapped, even if I have to crawl through the computer lines to do it.

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