BattleCry 2006: Recruiting Christian youth for a religious war tomorrow.

Posted by Les on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:02 PM. Read 4700 times. Tags:
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Go read the three columns submitted to Truthdig by Sunsara Taylor on her experiences attending the three day Christian evangelical youth movement known as BattleCry:

If you’ve been waiting to get alarmed until the Christian fascist movement started filling stadiums with young people and hyping them up to do battle in “God’s army,” wait no longer.

In recent weeks, BattleCry, a Christian fundamentalist youth movement, has attracted more than 25,000 people to mega-rally rock concerts in San Francisco and Detroit, and this weekend it plans to fill Wachovia Stadium in Philadelphia.

The leaders of BattleCry claim that their religion and values are under attack, but amid spectacular light shows, Hummers, Navy SEALs and military imagery on stage, it is BattleCry that has declared war on everyone else. Its leader, Ron Luce, insists: “This is war. And Jesus invites us to get into the action, telling us that the violent—the ‘forceful’ ones—will lay hold of the kingdom.”

Here’s page 2 and page 3 and I highly suggest you read them all. It’ll probably scare the shit out of you.

There is a definite attempt taking place by the Christian Evangelicals to get ‘em while their young and get them ready to literally shed blood in the fight to turn America into a theocracy. This is where we’re going to see the next round of domestic terrorism come forth and our President is fully behind the effort all the way:

This was the letter that opened the event. Its author was George W. Bush.  Yes, the president of the United States sent a letter of support, greeting, prayer and encouragement to the BattleCry event held at Wachovia Spectrum Stadium in Philadelphia on May 12. Immediately afterward, a preacher took the microphone and led the crowd in prayer. Among other things, he asked the attendees to “Thank God for giving us George Bush.”

On his cue, about 17,000 youths from upward of 2,000 churches across America and Canada directed their thanks heavenward in unison.

Throughout the three and a half hours of BattleCry’s first session, I thought of only one analogy that fit the experience: This must have been what it felt like to watch the Hitler Youth, filled with self-righteous pride, proclaim the supremacy of their beliefs and their willingness to shed blood for them.

You’d like to think this kind of shit can’t happen in America, but there’s no reason it can’t. Who’s to say that someday this country will be the one all the other countries are banding together to defeat? If these people have their way that day may come sooner than later.

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Julian India Posted on 06/11/2006 at 02:44 PM

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Jesus said you should SHUT UP and take care of them - ALL of them.  The poor and the downtrodden and the sick and hungry.  So SHUT UP and take care of them.  “Jesus saidâ€? and stuff.

How true.
Funny to hear christians whine about “taxpayers” having to pay for stuff when Jebus’s teachings were so full of proto-communism.

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:11 PM

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No offense guys, but your responses dont make sense. I dont remember when I mentioned taking care of the poor and downtrodden. I was simply responding to someones post saying it didnt affect anyone else to have premarital sex. There is always the possibility of having it effect someone else especially the baby that might become of it and there is only one form of safe sex and thats not having it at all unless you are committed to one person.

Beau Tochs United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:16 PM

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Julian, if Christians would bother to actually READ that book they love to wave around, they probably wouldn’t be big fans of what it has to say.

Here’s some scripture you rarely hear “good Christians” quote:

Zechariah 7:10
Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor.

Matthew 25:40-41
40. The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.‘

41. Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43. I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.

How should we treat “illegal immigrants”? Anyone?

Leviticus 25:35
If one of your countrymen becomes poor and is unable to support himself among you, help him as you would an alien or a temporary resident, so he can continue to live among you.

And finally, my all time favorite . . . whenever hear some God-botherer go on about “the Sodomites”, I always try to make sure they fully understand the REAL reason their God was angry with them - and note that “He” doesn’t say anything about who’s cornholin’ whom:

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy 50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

That’s all I have to say, J!  If only Megiddo would practice what he preaches!  grin

Beau Tochs United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:22 PM

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Megiddo, YOU were the one who started whining about ALL THOSE FATHERLESS BABIES the taxpayers have to pay for - all those BASTARDS being born out of wedlock due to all the UNSANCTIONED FUCKIN’ and SUCKIN’ goin’ on out there!

Now shut up and take care of some fatherless crack baby, will you?  The Power of Christ COMMANDS you!

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:32 PM

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No offense guys, but your responses dont make sense.

No offense, Megiddo, but you’re a bit of a wanker.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:36 PM

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Megiddo: There is always the possibility of having it effect someone else especially the baby that might become of it and there is only one form of safe sex and thats not having it at all unless you are committed to one person.

Sorry, I don’t buy your brand of Puritanism (or anyone else’s, for that matter). Your argument is nonsense in light of all the studies indicating the efficacy of condoms and oral contraceptives in preventing STDs and pregnancy.

By the way, what the hell is the deal with the fundies’ obsession with babies and children? It’s as though they can’t make any kind of point without pulling “the children” into it. Won’t somebody please think of the adults???

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:44 PM

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Again I never said that people should never be taken care of. You fail to realize that. I didnt start off whining about fatherless babies. I was responding to a post that said premarital sex doesnt affect anyone else.

Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:48 PM

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My obsession on babies and children comes from living in a world that no longer puts them first or even thinks about them. Everybody is out to “get theirs” while they can and those same people fail to realize that the the country is disintegrating before our very eyes.

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:49 PM

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Megiddo, you waltz in, make huge assumptions about people you don’t know, completely ignore any comment that calls you on your shit and harp endlessly about premarital sex.

Let me guess, you’re a virgin, right?

Do everyone a favor and get laid, even if you have to pay for it.

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Julian India Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:52 PM

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My obsession on babies and children comes from living in a world that no longer puts them first or even thinks about them. Everybody is out to “get theirs� while they can and those same people fail to realize that the the country is disintegrating before our very eyes

And you still have not explained why these same problems wont exist if the parents are married.

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:52 PM

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And this doesnt really look to intimidating to me.

http://www.acquirethefire.com

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:54 PM

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KPG: Do everyone a favor and get laid, even if you have to pay for it.

I second that. Sex is great, Megiddo—don’t be afraid. The only thing to fear is fear itself.

A virgin who rants and bitches about the “evils” of sex is like a blind person who complains about how awful the color blue is.

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 03:59 PM

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Those problems would still exist even with married couples but they would be alot lower than if the two parents werent married.

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:04 PM

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Megiddo: Those problems would still exist even with married couples but they would be alot lower than if the two parents werent married.

That makes absolutely no sense. Let’s see some proof.

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:04 PM

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I am a happily married man and have sex plenty. Dont you guys worry about that. Another thing, if people stopped screwing each other, there wouldnt be any stds’. Debate that all you want.

Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:10 PM

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Well sexy sadie, would you rather have your kids raised by a loving mother and father or a loving mother? I know women who have done it on their own but whenever you are missing that fatherly guidance and leadership and wisdom, something is missing. So answer the question.

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:10 PM

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Another thing, if people stopped screwing each other, there wouldnt be any stds’. Debate that all you want.

You know what? If people would stop to fuck, pretty soon nobody would die anymore. Debate that all you want.

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Julian India Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:10 PM

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Another thing, if people stopped screwing each other, there wouldnt be any stds’.

Are you serious? There wouldn’t be any people either.

That makes absolutely no sense. Let’s see some proof.

Yeah let’s.

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:11 PM

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I am a happily married man and have sex plenty.

I really feel sorry for your wife. I bet it’s all missionary position with the lights out.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:12 PM

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Meg: Everybody is out to “get theirs� while they can and those same people fail to realize that the the country is disintegrating before our very eyes.

You’re aware that teen pregnancy and abortion rates have gone down in recent years (since 1990), right? And did you also know that crime rates have steadly descended since 1990?

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:13 PM

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Sex outside of marriage guys. Std’s spread because people have sex with different numbers of people. They are just passing it on and passing it on. STDs’ are behaviorial diseases and for the most part so is aids.

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:17 PM

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I know women who have done it on their own but whenever you are missing that fatherly guidance and leadership and wisdom, something is missing.

What makes fathers wiser than mothers? Not only are you anti-sex, you appear to be anti-woman.

Can’t say I’m suprised.

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Megiddo United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:18 PM

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Thats a good sign. Hopefully it gets lower.

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 04:22 PM

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Meg(lomaniac): So answer the question.

I’ll be honest with you, Meg—I’m never having kids. I don’t believe in it. This is my life, and I am not wasting eighteen years of it caring for a thankless brat. I am likewise never getting married: I am my own person, not the property of some man. However, I do live with a beautiful guy, and we have glorious sex on a near daily basis. We also invite friends over to join in on the fun. John (my partner) is bisexual, and I enjoy watching him get it in the butt. I myself am somewhat bisexual, but my preference is far and away men.

But for people who do want kids and have had them, I fail to see how the marital state of the parents is in any way relevant to their ability to love and care for their children. Marraige is a social construct. Love for one’s offspring is not.

Hey, you wanted me to answer the question, friend. You mentioned nothing about the level of detail that doing so would entail.

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GeekMom United States Posted on 06/11/2006 at 05:18 PM

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STDs’ are behaviorial diseases and for the most part so is aids.

Yeah, I’m sure that applies to all the married victims who got it unknowingly from their spouses.  And that BEHAVIOR of people who got AIDS from blood transfusions!  Tsk tsk.  They obviously deserved it.

Twit.

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