My girlfriend wants me to get a tattoo. I couldn’t care too much, only that I don’t want a tattoo that seems right now but works against me later. I can’t reach any decision on the matter and am probably better off that way. I’m all for body-art as self-expression, I just don’t see it as my thing.

I have two tattoos--a peace sign on my right calf and a yin-yang on my upper back. I didn’t know I was a dimwit, but I guess you learn something new everyday, huh?

I had two tattoos that I had to get covered up so that I could go to waterparks again. The old tattoos were about as big as postcards, now I have two 3/4 sleeves.  I am not sorry that I got them, it is just that going around with X rated tattoos is a bothersome at times.  I find it kind of funny that a huge tattoo of a skull with a bloody sword and lots of blood is acceptable but my old homo-erotic tattoos weren’t considered acceptable.

I have a portrait of my wife of 31 years on my back, Then there is my Martial Arts School insignia on my upper left arm, California Hells Angels Chapter #5 Tattoo on my right arm, if you see a guy with a sideways looking skull with wings coming out the back of it, I don’t recommend you call him a dimwit to his face, Not that you would of course, because people like you only say things like this on the internet.

When I was about 13 I mentioned to dad that I wouldn’t mind getting a tattoo.
He, with passion, told me that only people from broken homes got tattoos; I’ve never had one so I suppose that old programme must have worked.
Of course now I know the programme was probably incorrect as so many people have got tattoos - some don’t even come from broken homes but I still look and wonder at the reasons why some people go in for body art and studs and stuff.
If I’d got a tattoo on my belly at 20, now there’d be large gaps in the picture.

Militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script.
Although viewing themselves as “free thinkers”, they all have a Party
Line they follow rather closely.

Don:

In response, is that script political, law or legal, or a scientific party?  Is that a humanitarian script, educational, or a PTA party?
I have to agree with KBG, some propaganda is not worth responding to line-by-line.

Uhdua, to those answers.

Yes, I read carefully the rest of the post to keep myself current with the religious BS, and it’s hardly worth my time to debunk, as it is nothing more than lies that are more god freaks and stupidity. If there was even one valid point to make, it certainly was not in the first sentence.

As to tattoos, I have real life scars that are well earned, and I have never seen a picture drawn on human skin that I like. If I want to see art, I will not look at human drawings on skin, now that is really stupid to scar up a humans body.

Rule number one: if the lady has a tattoo, count me gone, god knows what she would do to me in my sleep if she did the ugly art to herself.

Don

So that is why ladies get tattoo(s), to show themselves unattainable but by the males that degenerate themselves as the lady did.

Oh, that is a beautiful standard to go by, for humans, see how low you can go, and still justify it, just like a tattoo.  Let us see who can fuck up the human body the worst.  Your butterfly on your shoulder looks like crap, but you call that love. Why don’t you stretch your lower lip out with multiple brass rings, and then tell me the difference between that and your tattoo, and then convince me you have standards of living.

Don

Don, anyone ever tell you that you’re a judgemental little shit?

Don sed: Why don’t you stretch your lower lip out with multiple brass rings, and then tell me the difference between that and your tattoo, and then convince me you have standards of living.

FUCK YOU Don.  This makes even less sense than the other shit that you have posted.

So KBG, how far out did you stretch out your lower lip with multiple brass rings and call it Beautiful, perhaps even spiritual? So did you stretch your neck a little as the Africans did? Scar your chest as if human markings can verify your man hood?

With all that new skin space on your lower lip, put some exotic dancer, as that would be your example of a male, right, that is why people get tattoos, to advertise what they do not have as a living human. Now that is sick.

Sorry, tattoos are for those that do not have the foggiest idea of the natural beauty of the human body, nor the beauty of the human mind, as if intentional human marking can make an improvement. What BS.

I have seen beter art on box tops, than any tattoo. So that is the human body, a box top.

Right.

Don

You understand me KBG, what I said in regards to tattoos. Do not play the dummy on me.

Do what you want, dip yourself in ink, mutilate your body and call it “lovely”. What the fuck do I care.

At least I place limits to art, so where are your limits?

Don

So KBG, how far out did you stretch out your lower lip with multiple brass rings and call it Beautiful, perhaps even spiritual? So did you stretch your neck a little as the Africans did? Scar your chest as if human markings can verify your man hood?

Perhaps I’m just expressing my own concern about it. No I didn’t stretch your neck as the Africans did. What’s it like? Who are you talking about?

With all that new skin space on your lower lip, put some exotic dancer, as that would be your example of a male, right, that is why people get tattoos, to advertise what they do not have as a living human. Now that is sick.

You and your all that new skin space on your lower lip put some exotic dancer as that would be your example of a male right that is why people get tattoos to advertise what they do not have as a living human. Does it disturb you?

Sorry, tattoos are for those that do not have the foggiest idea of the natural beauty of the human body, nor the beauty of the human mind, as if intentional human marking can make an improvement. What BS.

There is no need to apologize. Who does have the foggiest idea of the natural beauty of the human body nor the beauty of the human mind as if intentional human marking can make an improvement? Are you testing me?

I have seen beter art on box tops, than any tattoo. So that is the human body, a box top.

What did it look like to you? Yes it is one of the human body a box top.

Right.

I am glad we agree.

Well, as I consider art to be the most significant thing the human animal can achive and the appreciation of art to be the major difference between us and other species, no, Don, I don’t place limits on art.

As for the rest of your sentiments, you’ve proved yourself to be a judgemental bigot and I have no further use for you.

Go suck a goat.

You understand me KBG, what I said in regards to tattoos. Do not play the dummy on me.

Of course I understand it. Do you understand it? What did you mean by it? I do not understand that allusion. I’m not playing around.

Do what you want, dip yourself in ink, mutilate your body and call it “lovely”. What the fuck do I care.

You ask hard questions. What are you saying is lovely, Don ? What would your friends say if you asked them? Please don’t be so rude.

At least I place limits to art, so where are your limits?

Why?

Jesus Murphy.  Don obviously had a nasty experience with tattoos at some point ("Tattoos killed my father and raped my mother!").  How else explain the irrational anger over other members of this site having tattoos?

Like it or not, Don, art is subjective.  I enjoy heavy metal, my mother does not.  Who’s right?  I find a tattoo on a girl to be attractive, you do not.  The difference here is that my mother doesn’t lecture about Heavy Metal not being art.  By what right are you an expert on art?  For that matter, why the hell should anyone give any credence to your opinions on just what constitutes art?  The more I go back and read your comments, the more I feel bad for you.  If I were as angry about the little things as you are, I wouldn’t have any energy left for the big things.

Incidentally, I do have a tattoo (Celtic knot on the right shoulder).  Got it when I was 18 (I’m now 20).  Was it impulsive?  Abso-fucking-lutely.  Will I regret it?  I may.  Does Don have any right to an opinion on it?  Nope.

Now how the hell did a thread about atheists turn into an argument about tattoos?

Oh, I am ever so humbled by Don’s opinions of my tattoos! I shall remove them at once. You too, OB--post haste, my sister in shameful bodily art.

Using this fella Paolo’s logic…
If somebody who denies a god the most, does it because they actually believe in a god the strongest…
then a person such as himself, who strongly defends the existence of a god, actually believes it the least…
Maybe it’s just late and I’m tired.

Elwed, should you even be using Don’s stuff to test Alice? Seems like it would be garbage in - garbage out, to me.

She’s conversing with him better than anyone here, but still…

I’ve decided there’s an equal chance Don is having us on, guys, as was mentioned earlier. Same with Moloch. I fear they’re both just sitting back howling with laughter over the ways they’re getting a rise out of everyone. I could be wrong about either of them, but there are plenty of assholes in this world.

Master_of_puppets:

Don obviously had a nasty experience with tattoos at some point ("Tattoos killed my father and raped my mother!").  How else explain the irrational anger over other members of this site having tattoos?

Don:

Yeah:  as A child I read National Geographic Mag., I saw what the ignorant and the utterly stupid do to their own kind, and body, and they called it good. Therefore, I see not much has changed, from the darkest of ignorance and stupidity of the self mutilations of Africa to now. How nice.

To wrap up all the other coments:

I fully understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I thought that humans should be some what intelligent, More than a FUCKING BRICK! Humans could make some determination as what is art and WHERE to place it.

How about all the other mutilations called “beauty”, as female circumcision, male genial disfiguring, ears notched, breast cut, cultic barbarous mangling of the human body, by ritual and cult, and some how you think your are exempt.

How about the confused teen that slices and dices him/herself with razors dumps in ink, and 10 years latter regrets the act. Now what?

Now you Stupid Evil Bastards, you want to talk to me about beauty, of some fucking magic in a butterfly engraved into a breast, or a foot, and I’m to be WHAT! Insane as you are without thought or reason! Not knowing where to place art?

You need to go back to your GD cave KBG and others, and think about what the hell you are doing, perhaps read a book, read a dictionary, get some culture to back up intellect.

Then understand the human body has more value than GD toilet paper to write on.

Don

Brock: I’ve decided there’s an equal chance Don is having us on, guys, as was mentioned earlier. Same with Moloch.

Regarding Don, that suspicion has come over me once or twice, but in the end I think it’s more likely that he’s genuinely deranged. It seems like it’d just be too tedious a trick to keep up for as long as he has. Regarding Moloch, I fear that he is all too genuine, but unlike Don, he thrives on attention. Whereas Moloch gets his kicks from shocking and outraging people, I can envision Don perfectly happy conversing with a brick wall.

Look Brock,

When you can write a post and substantiate your thinking with formal logic, science, law, or human standards unto direct prosperity, then you can move out of the low class that you are in.

You and others are scary, you have no idea what you say, nor the damage you do to yourself. My job, as a human, is to be better than I have been, and to back up my endeavors with works, study, and reference. To do this, ALL that I can and as much as I can, gives me pleasure.

As to all the others, LIKE YOU Brock, I survived their stupidity to this date, and I will continue to do so.

So what do you reference Brock?

Tell me I really want to know.

Don

Just my two cents, I think Don has a substance abuse issue. We get it’s wrath, It’s not like it is a person talking to us. It’s more like a bottle, pipe, or needle, and I would say to Don.

If that is the issue, will you please get some help. I have not spoken one word to you on this board. But if by chance I am right. Please feel free to write me. Life does not have to be like this.

Yes Sexy, I find a brick wall by far more entertaining, by far more educational, by far safer, and by far not as stupid as those that says they have knowledge but have NONE.

I rather hug a tree; kiss a rock, than meet your kind in a back ally. I told you Sexy, by the USA constitution, US Supreme Court rulings, laws and regulations, state and feds, FREE speech is NOT comprehensive. I backed myself up unto Ad Nausea, by your standards.

And you call me crazy Sexy?

I have seen you do better Sexy, now get with the program of intellect, I’m here to teach, raise the standard of living, go to higher thoughts, and take delight in that.

Don

Paul:

If that is the issue, will you please get some help. I have not spoken one word to you on this board. But if by chance I am right. Please feel free to write me. Life does not have to be like this.

Don:

Sorry Paul, you can join the line of the other fuck ups. Furthermore, you displayed your ignorance of thinking that if person studies and learns, they must be drugged. What an ass.

You remind me of that cult preacher I got away from many years ago, only you do not have nearly the elegant ability.

Go get a tattoo, and consult your cult that stomps on human knowledge.

Don

Um, Don ?? Hello ?? Please acknowledge, Don ??
You’re raving again, mate.
Settle down a bit.

Not knowing where to place art?

Don, art is where you find it - it’s an individual thing.
I’m reading The Flanders Panel by Arturo Perez-Reverte. It’s an interesting murder/mystery about 15th Century art - I am learning about the subtleties in what the old masters painted - next time I go into a gallery I’ll have a different level of appreciation.
Where was I?
Oh yes. Art. It’s like beauty, mate - it’s all in the eyes of the beholder.

understand the human body has more value than GD toilet paper to write on.

The human body you refer to is somebody’s property to do with as they will regardless of how it may affect others.
The world will never be really black and white no matter how hard you try to make it so.
As Bill Hicks said: It’s just a ride. 

Go get a tattoo, and consult your cult that stomps on human knowledge.

I doubt there are many here who would subscribe to stomping on knowledge, Don.
Smoke some dope or something, mate - you’re so aggressive it makes me tired.