Atheists hate the one true God! More according to paolo probably in response to us.

Posted by Psychromorbidus on Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 07:46 PM. Read 5105 times. Tags:
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Militant atheists pretty much all work from the same script.
Although viewing themselves as “free thinkers”, they all have a Party
Line they follow rather closely.
It isn’t difficult to anticipate their arguments on any
given point.  Most intelligent religious individuals almost always can
correctly predict what
you’ll say next.Interestingly, militant atheists get much of their
beliefs about “Christianity” from liberal Christians.
They’ll pejoratively label all Christians as “Fundies”,
then presumptively attack liberal theological concepts
they suppose us “Fundies” subscribe to !
Nearly all militant atheists are followers of the
religion of Scientism.  Their priests wear white lab
coats. Their sacramental objects are the microscope,
the telescope, and the test tube.  Blasphemy is to
deny the ultimate authority of science.
But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted
their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the
demons ...who believe more firmly in God’s existence
than do Christians !
It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some
of the people who most solidly believe in God !
Ain’t talking ‘practical atheists’ here ...those who don’t
even think much about atheism.  They’re the true
atheists.
Professional atheists who’ve dedicated themselves
to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him.
They’re the God-haters.
To which they’ll invariably reply: ‘How can we hate
something we don’t believe in ?’.
Exactly !  It’s their belief in God which drives them to
relentlessly attack Him.
Run of the mill, everyday ‘practical atheists’ don’t
give God a second thought.  They’re the ones
I worry about.
Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the
innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts.
As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no time
in their lives that they
totally disbelieved in God.  And -in fact- were driven to
work against the Lord by belief in Him !
It isn’t that militant atheists don’t believe God exists.
Instead: That they don’t want God to exist.

This is a piece written by paolojoejingy on Tuesday Nov 7th, probably in response to us since that E-mail to many members was issued on Nov 6th.  I was just about to write back to him on his google group thread when I thought that it may be better to use a unified position to help refute his claims.  There are ample examples of fallacious reasoning such as argumentum ad hominem but I am afraid that I will not represent the full range of views and issues that atheism and it’s variants entails.  I would really like to see if we all really do have a “party line” in terms of our beliefs.  So please comment with your response to our friend, just a focused bit on whatever aspect you think is perceived as wrong and is stereotypical.  I will compile it into a unified piece (or not if you want) and present it for him and others who have issues with our present pattern of thought.  Note that I will not edit any of your individual responses and will simply list who wrote the response unless it is created in bad taste and written just as an offensive attack.  Attack the idea, not the person (sounds very similar to “hate the sin, not the sinner").  We can then use this piece as kinda a standardized response to many attacks on SEB and the like and not have to repeat the same lines over and over again (even thought we may love to anyway).  Please I ask of your input.  If none is given, I will move on my own but I thought it would be nice to cover all angles here.  I am looking practically for a thesis defense here, if you know what I mean.  Thank you for your time and consideration, it will not be wasted.

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Brock United States Posted on 11/22/2006 at 11:49 PM

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And the mad disemvoweler strikes again!

Ha ha. NOW I’m getting curious about Don’s entries. If you’d told me a week ago this would happen I would have told you to lay off the egg-nog.

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Don United States Posted on 11/22/2006 at 11:55 PM

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Frthr, mr, n th S, lws r nt stgnt, nd mch dpnds n prsn’s ncntvs wth tngbl rslts. s sch, ths cntrvrss r dlt wth n crt f lw, wth ppls mny tms. Th wys nd mns t mng r scty, t sclptr ts rslts, yt try t prsrv prsnl frdms, s cnstnt nd n-gng wy f lf nd bttl.

f y r skng m t shw fnlty, s f gd sd t, nd s sch chng th dvnt nd grss ntr f hmns, y r gnrnt f th S lgl systm nd crt prcdng. W hv lws gnst mrdr, w cn gr tht s wrng, yt t hppns dly hr n th S. Lws, f mny knds, nd nfrcmnts, r n “n-gng” prcss f vry dy lf. Tttng, f th mst hds knd, s nt ny xcptns.

Thr r s mny lws n th bks, frm trt, t crmnl, t sttt; t lmt, crtl, nflnc, crcn, nd t prsd gnst ttts, ny sn, nd sm wht dctd, prsn jst hs t d smpl Ggl srch. Rd nd lrn.

Dn

Sadie Jane United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:00 AM

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KPG: Sadie, I’ll get a tatoo that says “tab B” if you get one that says “slot A”

Ah, when I think of your poor, unsuspecting wife… wink

And speaking of poor unsuspecting souls, I wonder if Don is even aware that he’s been disemvoweled. Oddly enough, his October 26 entry is still legible, if not particularly understandable (not that that should come as any sort of surprise). Some of his most coherent work, to be sure, even though he couldn’t resist going off on tangents even in his own entry.

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:00 AM

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Tht s rl jwl Ls, kp t p s y mk my pnts vn strngr.

tk t tht ths mssg brd s nt fr th wk f hrt. t s K, kp brf bg cls by fr th stpdty ncntr.

Dn

Les United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:00 AM

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I wonder how many more replies Don’s going to post before he realizes he’s being disemvoweled? His cluelessness knows no bounds.

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Brock United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:00 AM

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OK, curiosity satisfied. I’m done.

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Les United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:02 AM

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Wow, he caught on faster than I thought he would. Good thing I didn’t bet on it.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:05 AM

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By the way, Les, have you disemvoweled anyone before, or is Don your first test case?

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:06 AM

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Sadie: Ah, when I think of your poor, unsuspecting wife…

Now, now, never think that. She sees most of what I post here. She likes to watch

LOL

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:08 AM

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s sm n lks t mss rnd wth thr ppls pst, vry fnny, bt y mk my pnts vn strngr. r y sr, y wnt ths rpttn? hrdly thnk dd nythng t rmv ll vwls n spllng.

S t pst gn:

Frthr, mr, n th S, lws r nt stgnt, nd mch dpnds n prsn’s ncntvs wth tngbl rslts. s sch, ths cntrvrss r dlt wth n crt f lw, wth ppls mny tms. Th wys nd mns t mng r scty, t sclptr ts rslts, yt try t prsrv prsnl frdms, s cnstnt nd n-gng wy f lf nd bttl.

f y r skng m t shw fnlty, s f gd sd t, nd s sch chng th dvnt nd grss ntr f hmns, y r gnrnt f th S lgl systm nd crt prcdng. W hv lws gnst mrdr, w cn gr tht s wrng, yt t hppns dly hr n th S. Lws, f mny knds, nd nfrcmnts, r n “n-gng” prcss f vry dy lf. Tttng, f th mst hds knd, s nt ny xcptns.

Thr r s mny lws n th bks, frm trt, t crmnl, t sttt; t lmt, crtl, nflnc, crcn, nd t prsd gnst ttts, ny sn, nd sm wht dctd, prsn jst hs t d smpl Ggl srch. Rd nd lrn.

Dn

Brock United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:08 AM

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This is getting more amusing by the minute so before I get sidetracked and forget to say: Happy Thankee Sai, everyone.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:11 AM

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Yes, Happy Turkey Day to all, even those of us who will not be eating turkey (like yours truly).

grin

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KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:15 AM

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Hey Slappy

G tk flyng fck t rllng dnt!

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:17 AM

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Tht s th nly wy y cn wn ths rgmnt Ls, sbtg prsn’s pst, s n dbt y d shw ff yr lck ntllct. wll mk nt f t, nd b sr t pss t n.

gss y r th “Stpd vl Bstrd” clt dfndr. Wht jk.

Dn

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:26 AM

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Slappy, you lost this arguement the minute you started it. You are the single worst debater I’ve ever seen. Rose could run circles around you. Maybe if you read a few books without pictures you might begin to grasp basic sentence structure, but I doubt it. I think you’re hopeless.

Look out behind you, the mad tattoo artists are going to get you.

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:40 AM

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Tht s rlly ntrstng Ls, nvr bsrvd wrtng wtht ny vwls. n ddtn, t thnk thr r nly fv f thm. lrn stff ll th tm.

Wht fnd vn mr ntrstng s y, nd thrs sk fr rfrnc, thn whn gvn th rfrnc y dstry t, r d nt vn rd. Wht cn tll y, m lft spchlss? H, h. hv bn ylld t f vrythng prsn cn spk f bt y trnd nw crd, dd.

S ’m wndrng, ds t d prsn hr gd t s spll chck? Nt hrdly.

Dn

Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 01:14 AM

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Thrfr, Ls, y s cntrllr f ths brd, f wht nvr dbtd, r y gng t rstr my pst wth my rfrncs, r shld pst thm gn, nd tk th jk s y ntndd t? cn tk jk, f tht s wht y r dng.

Y cn flt m, n dbt, vry cmmn wth nyn, bt y hv t dmt dd wrk t prdcng th bst pst cld t th tm. nswrd s sw fttng, nd gv y smthng t tlk bt tht thr ws wld b dd thrd, s s mny thrs dd thrds.

f ll th ppl n ths brd, f y Ls, xpctd th mst, t s n sst whr t s bvs. f y d nt hv ppl lk m, (lk t yr hstry) y wld dry p nd b nthr pg n n f 9 blln Ggl srchs, nd f lttl vl.

nstgt cnvrstn, bt t s bvs y sk t d wy wth t. t snds lk y lk t sht yrslf n th ft, Prhps y r mr ntrstd n fdng yr wn pp g, thn … wht vr, y b th jdg s w ll r.

Y gv th mprssn prsn cld tlk frly hr bt whn thy d, y sbtg th pst. Th jk s n m. wll gv y chnc t rlnt, bcs ’m tlrnt, r wll jst mv n. hv bn bndd mny tms bfr. wld ht t pt y n pstn t b dshnst bt t.

Dn

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 01:42 AM

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And Slappy Spoketh:

but you have to admit I did work at producing the best post I could at the time.

I have no doubt that it was the best you could do, which just makes it sadder and funnier at the same time.

If you do not have people like me, (look at your history) you would dry up and be another peg in one of 9 billion Google searches, and of little value.

Wow, what a huge ego for such a little man. With a ridiculous high number of posts before you reared your little head, I think we’d muddle along without you, Slappy.

I instigate conversation,

No, you just make a convenient target for when we’re bored.

I have been banded many times before.

This supriseth me not.

or I will just move on.

Unless you’re a masochist, that’d probably be your best move. Cause we’re just going to keep on making fun of you, unless you sudden;y get a lot smarter, and what are the odds of that?

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Les United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 01:46 AM

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Sadie asks…

By the way, Les, have you disemvoweled anyone before, or is Don your first test case?

Don is my first. Most of the idiot commenters who show up here aren’t quite as persistent as Don happens to be.

Don, I told you several comments back that I was going to start disemvoweling your comments unless you answered the challenge I put forth. I’m doing it by hand right now, but I’ve got an automated process I can put into place if I have to.

Put up or shut up, Don. Let’s see some action in the form of a real lawsuit from you against somebody with a tattoo. Until You can provide documentation that you’ve actually taken action I’ll continue to disemvowel your comments.

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 01:52 AM

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KPatrickGlover,

I have read many of your post, you can be rather intelligent, good reading, when you desire to put out the effort other than vulgarity and insults. However, you don’t really expect a person to give into your name-calling? Do you? I never did, and any person with a half-ounce of intellect, and a gram of pride, never will. So what is the problem KPatrickGlover, are you insulting to others, even that mean, in real life?

I doubt that, more than likely KPatrickGlover, in real life, you are one of the most kind person anyone would hope to meet, studious at job, family, and life, protector of the weak with honorable intentions to match, with valid (unarguable) results; so what you say, as to your insults, don’t bother me.  That is not the real you.  So do not lie to me, as I have your number plain as day.

Some things, as with us all, are just over your head, as I have problem with microbiology, so I work at it, to improve myself, as in my line of work no telling what will be thrown at me. I quote laws and legalities, many times; I speak from a legal academia culture, I do not expect others to follow, and I do expect verbal recourses. 

I much rather be fighting religions, the stupidity of the gods, and the stupidity, god-awful ignorance, and fraud of those that believe in them.  Accordingly, you and I, given the right situation, no doubt would be working in concert. You just have to understand me and know how to use what you have to the best advantage. Your choice my friend, it is all up to up to, but I’m not lowering my standards.

Don

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 02:04 AM

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Hey Slappy, no fair with the compliments.

You trying to take all the fun out of this or something?

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 02:13 AM

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Les, I did that, go back and look, but your blatant denial, goes NO WHERE. You need to show, give some indication, where you do not under stand what I posted.  You need to give me something to work on, but your over all denial of my every word does not cut it.

That is just the way life is. It is you, at this point, that has the responsibility to express what you do not understand.

Further more if I post my quotes over, you charge me, negatively, with repeating myself as if it my fault that you do not read, and then you scramble my post and still condemn me. Now what kind of person is that?

Therefore, I will repeat, what is it that you do not understand, so I may clarify it, that I may use different words, or what ever I can do with reason as to time and space.

Your constant passing of the buck is not like you Les, so I just think you are getting lazy, or show me other wise.

Don

KPatrickGlover United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 02:27 AM

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Slappy, unless you personally have filed a lawsuit against someone for having a tattoo, you HAVE NOT met Les’ challenge.

Nowhere in any of your posts have you indicated that you have done so.

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Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 02:55 AM

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There is a big difference KPatrickGlover, between mind numbing flattery, as a high school kid courting a girl of the same age, and case hardened facts of life of responsible adults.

Law gives me, and the people I work for, POWER. Without that power, you have nothing but the possible good graces of mercy of humans, and I will never be that vulnerable again.  I have every deviant and criminal act of human history to back myself up, and it is only by the rule of law that humans don’t kill each, and even with law it is a daily survival, and I would hate to think what this country would be without it.

Legal philosophy, a way to construct life, is not express in on one quickie of a sentence, so I am clearly at a disadvantage. What I lack in writing ability, I will make up in persistence, and self improvement. I never said other wise. I know people, most people are very good people, most attitudes can change.

Apparently, this topic of tattoos has cut right to the quick of human tolerance. I ask, show me something more solid than law to base my reasoning and beliefs on; more than personal opinions, and cultic rituals. 

Now bear with me:

I remember a time when doing high wall construction work, setting trusses from a sky hook, the Stupid Evil Bastard employee, had a tong ring and could not shout out vital instructions to me; these instructions were vital to our life and limb, not to mention getting the dangerous job completed.

Had I known at the time, I did have legal recourses, that I did NOT have to work under those conditions of a person’s purposefully impaired speech, life would have been so much better for me, better safety on the job, more efficient, and by far less stressful (I’m talking about life and limb).

So perhaps KPatrickGlover, you have never been in that position. Why do people disfigure themselves, and what legal recourses are there? There are plenty of legal recourses, and I intend to use every one wherever needed.

Don

Don United States Posted on 11/23/2006 at 03:33 AM

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KPatrickGlover said:

Slappy, unless you personally have filed a lawsuit against someone for having a tattoo, you HAVE NOT met Les’ challenge.
Nowhere in any of your posts have you indicated that you have done so.

Don:

First, my posted name is Don. You use my name correctly, and I will use your name as posted KPatrickGlover. There is no compromise from this date in my book.

Second, me filing a law suit it not relevant, does NOT void the laws on the ORS books, does not void out CPS, does not negate copy writes, DOES NOT void rules of Oregon Court, does not dismantles freedom of speech nor the limitations placed on speech, NOR infringes on torts.

Me filing a lawsuit, was never and agreement nor my challenge, but rather to show limitations and legal responsibility of tattoos.

Now you can say what ever you want to, but here is the original challenge:

I Don said:

“So cover your filthy art, or pay the price.
Bet me. “

To what Les responded:

“I’ll take that bet, Don. Put up or shut up.”

I more than did it, I shown many examples, quoted law, wrote on torts, described situations, with the intent to show rules and regulations. Mission accomplished.

Les even made my point as showing a tattooed ass with Pac man on it; now cover your ass or pay the price of public obscenity.

So what in gawd’s name do you want from me?

You go and make up your own rules, of what I never agreed to do, then scramble my post of quotes, then I go way beyond the requirements, then you tell me, I failed?

This really funny. I’m at fault for taking this board serious. I don’t admit errors easly, you will have to show me that I’m NOT to take you serious.

Don

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